Ancient of War RTS Synergy 2 vs 2 Map Alpha Version 1.0

[deepstrasz]

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[deepstrasz]

Hello. Thanks for making a credits list however it's really thin compared to the resources (authors) it contains.

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

Hello. Thanks for making a credits list however it's really thin compared to the resources (authors) it contains.

alright i added the credit list

 

[deepstrasz]

1. The allied AI comes to your mine xD
2. Building space is a nuisance because of the ally putting stuff too near or in your territory. Can be fixed with a proper map/terrain layout.
3. The goldmine camp aggroes the shipyard since it has to be built on the water and can be too near them due to the high camp range for mine creeps.
4. Fortification should say how much time it acts.
5. Not sure there's any deep water to submerge.
6. I feel War Machine's Siege Mode should have Ground Attack/artillery type attack.
7. Not sure what the point of items is if there's no heroes or units who could carry/use them.
8. Auras don't instantly apply/or rather disable on units so the Defensive Matrix has a latency where the unit not under the dome still gets the bonus.
9. lol a mine that attacks from below rather than explode.
10. Building unpack ability should have a stable position.

Definitely need to learn how to use a damage system or the editor's inbuilt one for proper abilities since some of them are kind of lacking.
The balance is off especially for Divine Shield Gryphons. Bestigor seem to be too powerful also.
There's too many units with similar roles. Need to be unique and easy to learn/remember. Some units just have some spell to have it. Like Monsoon+Healing Ward+Dispel. Neither thematic, neither anything, kind of random.
The game isn't optimized to render so many units/models so it starts lagging after a while.

So, it's a nice idea but too chaotic; terrain improper for this kind of gameplay; too bad all abilities are regular/recycled core game ones.

Awaiting Update.

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

1. The allied AI comes to your mine xD
2. Building space is a nuisance because of the ally putting stuff too near or in your territory. Can be fixed with a proper map/terrain layout.
3. The goldmine camp aggroes the shipyard since it has to be built on the water and can be too near them due to the high camp range for mine creeps.
4. Fortification should say how much time it acts.
5. Not sure there's any deep water to submerge.
6. I feel War Machine's Siege Mode should have Ground Attack/artillery type attack.
7. Not sure what the point of items is if there's no heroes or units who could carry/use them.
8. Auras don't instantly apply/or rather disable on units so the Defensive Matrix has a latency where the unit not under the dome still gets the bonus.
9. lol a mine that attacks from below rather than explode.
10. Building unpack ability should have a stable position.

Definitely need to learn how to use a damage system or the editor's inbuilt one for proper abilities since some of them are kind of lacking.
The balance is off especially for Divine Shield Gryphons. Bestigor seem to be too powerful also.
There's too many units with similar roles. Need to be unique and easy to learn/remember. Some units just have some spell to have it. Like Monsoon+Healing Ward+Dispel. Neither thematic, neither anything, kind of random.
The game isn't optimized to render so many units/models so it starts lagging after a while.

So, it's a nice idea but too chaotic; terrain improper for this kind of gameplay; too bad all abilities are regular/recycled core game ones.

Awaiting Update.

Omg, it is that Chaotic XD

Alright this is because i had been constant revise the factions regularly to suit the core theme of each faction. Yes, the ability most of it i recycle it to fit the theme, because one of my weakness is writing trigger, it caused so much limitation.

My first aim its to be fun to play, simplify, not too complicated and buggy interaction ability. But because of this, abilities is just modification and recycle.

i try to learn trigger, but its really hard, i tend to avoid do complicated things, and focus on what can i use in base game.

The Map was that chaotic XD i dont know shipyard terigger aggro, because the map is actually not thag good for naval warfare. Its kinda useless here, but again will fix it XD

Item? u mean shop ? i completely remove the items mechanic since there is no hero in this game. only focus on mercenary, abilities like reveal Goblin Lab, Gateway. But i will fix it, im still constant rearrange the map so it fit the pace the game i want it to playout.

Thank you so much for the detaila feedbacks!! i will update it regularly, i had been working on this for the past years XD

 

[deepstrasz]

Item? u mean shop ?

No. Those which drop from creeps/neutral hostile units.

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

ohh i thought i diaable it already, i will fix it

1. The allied AI comes to your mine xD
2. Building space is a nuisance because of the ally putting stuff too near or in your territory. Can be fixed with a proper map/terrain layout.
3. The goldmine camp aggroes the shipyard since it has to be built on the water and can be too near them due to the high camp range for mine creeps.
4. Fortification should say how much time it acts.
5. Not sure there's any deep water to submerge.
6. I feel War Machine's Siege Mode should have Ground Attack/artillery type attack.
7. Not sure what the point of items is if there's no heroes or units who could carry/use them.
8. Auras don't instantly apply/or rather disable on units so the Defensive Matrix has a latency where the unit not under the dome still gets the bonus.
9. lol a mine that attacks from below rather than explode.
10. Building unpack ability should have a stable position.

Definitely need to learn how to use a damage system or the editor's inbuilt one for proper abilities since some of them are kind of lacking.
The balance is off especially for Divine Shield Gryphons. Bestigor seem to be too powerful also.
There's too many units with similar roles. Need to be unique and easy to learn/remember. Some units just have some spell to have it. Like Monsoon+Healing Ward+Dispel. Neither thematic, neither anything, kind of random.
The game isn't optimized to render so many units/models so it starts lagging after a while.

So, it's a nice idea but too chaotic; terrain improper for this kind of gameplay; too bad all abilities are regular/recycled core game ones.

Awaiting Update.

wait i just realized its an old map, i already updated all of it, i try redownload the map in HIve back, when i open editor, i realized the version was way backkkkk... how do i replace the current map with new one? but i do want to fix all the other bugs later, but for now, i want to repalce the map with current version first.

ohh i thought i diaable it already, i will fix it


wait i just realized its an old map, i already updated all of it, i try redownload the map in HIve back, when i open editor, i realized the version was way backkkkk... how do i replace the current map with new one? but i do want to fix all the other bugs later, but for now, i want to repalce the map with current version first.

okay i got it, already upload the most latest version.

 

[deepstrasz]

how do i replace the current map with new one?

Updating resources

www.hiveworkshop.com

okay i got it, already upload the most latest version.

Alright. Waiting for the fixes and improvements.

 

[AdinizWarcraft]

The game isn't optimized to render so many units/models so it starts lagging after a while.

Has nothing to do with it, I've made a lot of maps with even more units. I think the issue is that certain triggers leak entire groups of units every few halves of seconds, so it adds up a lot. I can probably help the creator fix that if and when he makes a discord server haha

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

Has nothing to do with it, I've made a lot of maps with even more units. I think the issue is that certain triggers leak entire groups of units every few halves of seconds, so it adds up a lot. I can probably help the creator fix that if and when he makes a discord server haha

ohhh so it does related to triggers... i do make most of the triggers but kinda scrap it but i leave it just like that XD i thought it doesnt effect it.

Wait! i will create the discord server later XD currently busy with work, but i do open the projects daily XD

1. The allied AI comes to your mine xD
2. Building space is a nuisance because of the ally putting stuff too near or in your territory. Can be fixed with a proper map/terrain layout.
3. The goldmine camp aggroes the shipyard since it has to be built on the water and can be too near them due to the high camp range for mine creeps.
4. Fortification should say how much time it acts.
5. Not sure there's any deep water to submerge.
6. I feel War Machine's Siege Mode should have Ground Attack/artillery type attack.
7. Not sure what the point of items is if there's no heroes or units who could carry/use them.
8. Auras don't instantly apply/or rather disable on units so the Defensive Matrix has a latency where the unit not under the dome still gets the bonus.
9. lol a mine that attacks from below rather than explode.
10. Building unpack ability should have a stable position.

Definitely need to learn how to use a damage system or the editor's inbuilt one for proper abilities since some of them are kind of lacking.
The balance is off especially for Divine Shield Gryphons. Bestigor seem to be too powerful also.
There's too many units with similar roles. Need to be unique and easy to learn/remember. Some units just have some spell to have it. Like Monsoon+Healing Ward+Dispel. Neither thematic, neither anything, kind of random.
The game isn't optimized to render so many units/models so it starts lagging after a while.

So, it's a nice idea but too chaotic; terrain improper for this kind of gameplay; too bad all abilities are regular/recycled core game ones.

Awaiting Update.

The thing u said about War Machine Siege Mode should have ground/artillery attack... u mean it should have projectile rather than instant splash damage? why though?

 

[deepstrasz]

The thing u said about War Machine Siege Mode should have ground/artillery attack... u mean it should have projectile rather than instant splash damage? why though?

Oh, so it doesn't have AoE damage like regular Warcraft III artillery units? If not, then ignore me. If yes, then it would be nice so you can see the zone you can hit and also have the Attack Ground for automatic attacks (leaving your unit to attack some place where the enemy might come through while you're doing something else; this can work when attacking on fog of war spots and trees).

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

Oh, so it doesn't have AoE damage like regular Warcraft III artillery units? If not, then ignore me. If yes, then it would be nice so you can see the zone you can hit and also have the Attack Ground for automatic attacks (leaving your unit to attack some place where the enemy might come through while you're doing something else; this can work when attacking on fog of war spots and trees).

actually i use the ability like gyrocopter flak cannon, i modify it and so that War Machine attack look like blast like siege tank in wc3, so instead of flak cannon effect it become burnt like immolation. So its still has that Long range splash artillery.

i also think about to give it the artillery projectile, but since the game quite fast, most of the units can dodge it and make siege war machine look weak. So i give artillery projectile to Iron Fist (siege air unit) to open trees.

But you are right about pre-aim artillery attack XD as if war machine only attack when there is line of sight.

 

[DIO]

I dunno if marking a 4 player map as a 1 player map is the play gang

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

I dunno if marking a 4 player map as a 1 player map is the play gang

hahaha later on i will slowly try to make 4 players, for now im just focusing 1 player to test the factions and AI functioning

 

[deepstrasz]

Approved.
Hope it gets more updates and improvements as it's not quite ready yet.

 

[AxCelBiaz98]

Approved.
Hope it gets more updates and improvements as it's not quite ready yet.

Thanlk You! Big Update on the wayy