Techtree Contest

[busterkomo]

The same could be said for a spell making contest. Not to mention there isn't much stopping people from learning how to do those things instead of relying on others.

 

[Gilles]

but then theres a certain disadvantage to some soloers, since they dont know how to make jass spells or triggered spells in general, so they look lame compared to everyone else. and also the fact that the modelers have models they keep for themselves in their greedy ways and teyll make their race look kooler.

See, that's called talent. That's why some people "win", and some "lose". If you can't make spells, and can't make any models, how are you planning on making a tech tree in the first place?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Also, maybe you should only allow Resources submitted/approved before the contest starts. I.e. nothing used from after date/time of start of contest.

 

[HFR]

Totally agreed with you. Whitout this rule, people will use their "secret weapon" (Models/Spells that only the makers have).

Also, as the theme will be "Creep", I suggest an gnoll race, as there plenty of models here.

 

[Gilles]

No. If someone wants to make their own models, skins, or spells, they are welcome to.
Creep is the race. Basically anything that's neutral hostile in melee games.
If you aren't sure if you can use a certain race, just ask me.

This contest will be up by the end of the week.

 

[HFR]

So, the contesters can only still use one creep race, like an techtree only of ogres or murlocs. But I'm not sure if anyone can make an good model 'till end of the week, so downloading one is the best thing to do (unless you already made one, or is an model maniac, that makes an good model in 2 hours).

 

[Ghost765]

well, i plan to win by using resources that i've collected/found throughout my time. or atleast to try.
ok, are :
1. Goblins creeps?
2. Pandaren creeps? there is a pandaren neutral hero
3. What goes under bandits? can we have heavily armored bandits? like almost Empire-grade heavily armored?
4. Chaos, is chaos considered a creep? since there are alot of demons...

 

[Gilles]

So, the contesters can only still use one creep race, like an techtree only of ogres or murlocs. But I'm not sure if anyone can make an good model 'till end of the week, so downloading one is the best thing to do (unless you already made one, or is an model maniac, that makes an good model in 2 hours).

You can mix races, remember that wc3's rces are mixed a lot.

well, i plan to win by using resources that i've collected/found throughout my time. or atleast to try.
ok, are :
1. Goblins creeps?
2. Pandaren creeps? there is a pandaren neutral hero
3. What goes under bandits? can we have heavily armored bandits? like almost Empire-grade heavily armored?

Goblins and Pandaren are not creeps, sorry.
Yeah, the bandit thing sounds fine.

 

[Ghost765]

i was just sayin that goblins were creeps since theres a neutral shop for them.
u forgot to talk about chaos, i uh...remembered them after i posted.

 

[Kyrbi0]

But I'm not sure if anyone can make an good model 'till end of the week, so downloading one is the best thing to do (unless you already made one, or is an model maniac, that makes an good model in 2 hours).

Yeah, I guess feasibly, if you can get a modeller (or are one yourself) to make a model you need in the short interval before this contest starts, get it submitted/approved, then it would work.

However, I just suggested that; Gilles may not actually put it into the rules.

 

[Ghost765]

Ibthought he said modellers could make it whenever

 

[Gilles]

I did.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I don't remember. I'm just suggesting something to make it better.

 

[Gilles]

I can't stop people from doing that, so there's no point in trying.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Wait, how not?

People submit their maps; you look through the Imports. If they have something that doesn't exist on the Hive database (existing at or before the date/time of contest's "official" start), then they're disqualified.

?

 

[Linaze]

This isn't wc3c, there are way more resources in the database to check on this site for the appointed judge(s) to make sure no one made stuff "after" the contest began.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Yeah, but I can only assume that at Wc3C, they don't care whether you use their resources or the Hive's resources. It's a simple [Search], no?

 

[busterkomo]

Goblins and Pandaren are not creeps, sorry.
Yeah, the bandit thing sounds fine.

Why not? There are neutral hostile pandaren in melee games.

 

[Linaze]

Yeah, but I can only assume that at Wc3C, they don't care whether you use their resources or the Hive's resources. It's a simple [Search], no?

Perhaps a link should be provided from where you got each imported resource(s)?

Why not? There are neutral hostile pandaren in melee games.

No, there are only Polar Bears and Polar Furbolgs as far as I can remember (played rather recently).

 

[CoBrA b]

No, there are only Polar Bears and Polar Furbolgs as far as I can remember (played rather recently).

Actually, there is a pandaren Neutral Hostile. You can find it in the Northrend Neutral Hostile section. It may look like a Polar furbolg, but it's actually not. Its name even says, Pandaren-Level 4. I've even fought them in one of Blizzard's melee maps.

 

[Chaos.]

So just out of curiosity, what races are you guys planning on making?

I will be doing murloc as my main race and turtles as a subrace.

 

[CoBrA b]

So just out of curiosity, what races are you guys planning on making?

I will be doing murloc as my main race and turtles as a subrace.

I think I'll be doing either:

Savage/Native Alliance: Centaur, Quillboar, Harpy.
or
The Corrupted: Basically satyrs with almost every other Creep Type from felwood as subraces (sludge, mutant murloc, corrupted spider, etc.).
or
The Outcasts: Bandits, Dark Magi, and Fallen Priests.

 

[Chaos.]

I think the Savage alliance would be a cool one to see.

 

[Gilles]

Yeah, but I can only assume that at Wc3C, they don't care whether you use their resources or the Hive's resources. It's a simple [Search], no?

Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant apparently. No, there will be nothing like that. People can use whatever models they want, including models created specifically for the contest. Take note that the maps cannot be protected.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Cool cool. I can't wait to see teh custom stuff.

 

[Linaze]

NO offense or anything similar intended at all, just a fun "thing".
This contest is like the opposite of wc3c's upcoming Race Creation Contest.
Hive has full techtree, wc3c has mini.
Wc3c has no custom resources, Hive has all you want.
Hive has a theme, wc3c does not.
--
Not that it matters, just thought I'd let people know.

 

[Kyrbi0]

We will see which is more successful.

Also, I am ensaddened that Goblins are not an option. Shame on you, Hive. xD

 

[Paladon]

Host it?
Yeah, I'm sorry for my impatience.

 

[Linaze]

Since wc3c's contest will be less work, that is the one I will join, I think.
(Though I do want the rep at the Hive... )

 

[Kyrbi0]

Who will be hosted first? Will this affect the course of the contests? Who will best the other? Stay tuned!

 

[Linaze]

Well, both Gilles and Dusk seems to be slacking when it comes to actually hosting these contests.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Lawl. For Dusk, I think it's something of the feminine persuasion. (or so he claims). xD
But if it's all typed up, I wish he would just jump on and post it, then let us go. I have to leave eventually.

Anyway... I just hope I can pin down this Goblin race for the contest. And that I can decide: custom Rig model by Phoenix, or find a Warmech hero model before the contest starts (unlikely)??

 

[Gilles]

Dusk? He's not really around anymore.

I'm slow, yes. I did say it will be up this weekend, and it will though.

 

[Kyrbi0]

No, not here; Wc3C. He's taken on hosting the Wc3C "Techtree Contest" (actually, he suggested that I bring it up at Wc3C originally, and said he'd join.)

 

[Linaze]

Yeah, that's right.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.

 

[Gilles]

Oh sorry, didn't realize.

 

[Chaos.]

Can you give tell us what all the rules are going to be so that we can plan out our races a bit more, like import size and that kind of stuff.

 

[Ghost765]

well, i'll probably do some sort of chaos race, or bandits that somehow got their hands on premium thoroughbreds and really heavy armor and can make huge castles.

 

[Chaos.]

Chaos race would probably be easier since there are alot more units that you could use. Bandits dont have that many.

 

[Linaze]

Well, creativity will be needed.
Bandits could have wolves, just as an example.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

Dusk? He's not really around anymore.

Just remember that there's a reason for everything.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Heroes:
- Bandit Lord
- Rogue Mage (or of a certain element, see TFT Human campaign)
- "Uber Assassin"
- ?

Units:
Bandits (melee)
Bandits (spearthrowers)
Bandits (assassin, = Sc Dark Templar?? )
Wolves
Convicts (barely controllable ex-convicts, freed from Alliance prison camps)
...
At this point, you'd have to introduce some secondary race. Maybe a group of disgruntled Dwarves decides to help out the Bandits (as a sort of analog to the actual Human race). Heck, you could even throw Elves in there, perhaps.

For some interesting bit, you could have it where part of race (or the whole thing...) is only available through a kind of Mercenary Camp; so you don't have to Train the unit, just buy it (but they have a limited stock).

Also, maybe having mobile bases (always on the run).

 

[~Void~]

Just remember that there's a reason for everything.

Epic movie quote = win.

 

[Ghost765]

so why do we have to leave the map unprotected? what if we use sensitive material that was bestowed upon us and only us.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Maybe you shouldn't use "precious resources", then?...

 

[HFR]

At this point, you'd have to introduce some secondary race. Maybe a group of disgruntled Dwarves decides to help out the Bandits (as a sort of analog to the actual Human race). Heck, you could even throw Elves in there, perhaps.

If you want to make renegade dwarves, there's lots of models in the database.

Prsonnaly, I think that an race about bandits and renegades would win this contest (alongside with good spells and balance). Talking about balance, it's not too unbalanced the idea of "buying units"?

 

[Ghost765]

Without precious resources the race ain't cool

 

[~Void~]

so why do we have to leave the map unprotected? what if we use sensitive material that was bestowed upon us and only us.

Then you have two options.

1. Upload them to Hive resource section.
2. Take them out of your entry.

 

[HFR]

An good custom race need good custom resources and hive has a lot of them.

 

[Just_Spectating]

we should have a rule that people cannot be allowed to make a model for the contest, only beable to download from the current resources on the hive?

wouldnt be too fair if they could make their own models.