Techtree Contest #6 - No Imports!

[Kingz]

I am confused.

Is changing only the apearance and text of a resource (in this case lumber) allowed then? (Gameplay Interface options ONLY, afaik it is allowed by the rules on the 1st page)

AI still uses it, but for him the resource isn't called/shown as lumber but is still harvestable as such and retains the same functionality for the AI, it just has a different icon and description.

Edit:

Sorry for bothering you with this, i just want a concise answer to a concise question to avoid any drama/issues.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Yes, everything mentioned is allowed. ;]

 

[Kingz]

Thanks.

Since it really adds up to the feeling of the race.

 

[boomwolf]

Kingz, you needed not to apologize, making sure of things is natural, and wise. you could end up making a mistake that could disqualify you otherwise...

But new resource got me interested...considering you are making demons...souls?

 

[Kingz]

Bingo.

Tho it's more of a replacement of lumber than a "new" resource. Demons need no wood

 

[boomwolf]

So, how do you get souls? combat?

 

[Wazzz]

negative HP regeneration can be achieved from the Object Editor very easily

also i should be finishing up soon hopefully, don't think i have much left to do

 

[part207]

Woo, i stumbled onto this quite late.. heres what ive made in the last few hours..

Race: Spirits/Ghosties
3 tier main
upgrade building
hero alter (although currently empty)
barracks
caster building
high tier unit building
farm

here are a couple WIPs

odds are i wont even place, but i figured ide give it a quick try

(time is a bit of an issue... so i may not even finish)

any thoughts?

 

[overcold_ice]

can i edit things inside Scenario ?
(only for the map name + author i think, nothing else)

 

[Freyleyes]

Here is another wip.

Good luck to every one still in the race

 

[Orcnet]

Due to the announcement being posted later than expected, the contest shall now end on 3rd of April!

yes!

 

[Wazzz]

Here is another wip.

Good luck to every one still in the race

something about your map file is wrong, it won't play in my warcraft

UNLESS it's just me, hopefully it's just me

 

[WerePhoenix]

So tod... wait ... oh we've got 4 more days.. Yey!

Only for people who want to know

PS: I'm sorry everyone, but I was a bit busy, so I didn't checked the forum. I will read the posts.

 

[Kingz]

something about your map file is wrong, it won't play in my warcraft

UNLESS it's just me, hopefully it's just me

Do you have JNGP? If not that is the reason.

 

[Astaroth Zion]

Concept WIP
You start as a normal human settlement, but when you hire a hero you make a pact with its corresponding faction. Most pacts are excluyent meaning that in a single match you won't be able to see all posibilities.
In the image you can see all possible pacts with the corresponding heros. Take not that if you choose to ally with the blood elves you won't be able to reach the Elemental magic and so on.

 

[Kingz]

Hmmh yeah my race has a part of this method also.

Tho you are chosing your House of the Demon lord you wish to bring forth and it isn't a drastical change.

 

[GhostThruster]

Goblin race.

Hero is Goblin Trade Prince. He will be the centre of the race; he can summon units and harvest gold. Base building is Workshop. It sells Workers. It also sells Machines like zeppelins, shredders, and scorpions. This race requires extreme micro and is very fast paced. Only the hero, and two of three machines (when loaded) have attacks. Tech level is used as 'tiers'. Certain units and abilities may only be used with higher tiers. Engineers can level up like heroes, but only to level 3, and can use hero items. They still can't attack, so items like 'Claws of Attack' do nothing.
At the start of the match, the Trade Prince gets the ability to place down one Marketplace for free.

Units:
-Trade Prince - can summon Engineers or Sappers. Can also establish Mining Quarries on Gold mines to boost gold gained from Merchants. Has channeling ability to gain gold. When killed, he can be revived on the spot with half hp and no mana, or normally revived via a Marketplace.
-Merchant Wagons- harvests gold. The longer it takes for the Merchant Wagon to reach the Marketplace from the gold mine, the more gold you receive. Merchants can also steal from enemy structures. Also sells minor items.
-Engineer - can be loaded into machines like zeppelins and shredders. Engineers allow machines to heal and operate.
-Sapper - primary attack unit. Can be 'baneling dropped' by zeppelins or launched by scorpions.
-Worker - robot unit with timed life. Costs no food. Builds all buildings.
-Shredder - harvests lumber. Heavy attack unit. Requires Engineer to operate.
-Scorpion - anti-air machine. Artillery unit. Requires Engineer to operate.
-Zeppelin - transport and scout. Requires Engineer to operate.

Buildings:
-Workshop - sells [does not train] units. Can receive lumber.
-House - supplies food.
-Research lab - increases Tech Level.
-Marketplace - trains Merchant Wagons. Receives gold from Merchant Wagons. Sells items.


EDIT: added gold building.

 

[Wazzz]

Do you have JNGP? If not that is the reason.

that wouldn't matter if you're running the map directly from ingame

especially since i do have jngp

 

[GhostThruster]

my WIP.

 

[kari0003]

Second Wip Yay! The procession is slower than i excepted, i hope i can finish till the deadline :/

 

[Kingz]

New WIP.

Note: You can only have one of the Demon's Heroes, you will need a tavern to have multiple heroes.

Or not, we shall see.

Edit:

Anyone has an idea how to stop the "You will be revealed unless you build a town hall" thingy? And doing so with having the Melee Victory/Defeat conditions.

Edit2:

After some searching it seems you can't have a custom Town Hall and work with normal victory/defeat conditions. FEAR NOT.
Im gonna write a custom Victory/Defeat Library for anyone here who wishes to use it to add to the gameplay feel.

 

[kari0003]

Add Town Hall classification doesn't work? Also you could add a dummy town hall unit, and work out just your race's victory/defeat conditions ^^

 

[boomwolf]

It does not, none of this methods do. not even changing game-play contents. a bit of a fail on blizzard's side.

 

[moyackx]

Edit:

Anyone has an idea how to stop the "You will be revealed unless you build a town hall" thingy? And doing so with having the Melee Victory/Defeat conditions.

Edit2:

After some searching it seems you can't have a custom Town Hall and work with normal victory/defeat conditions. FEAR NOT.
Im gonna write a custom Victory/Defeat Library for anyone here who wishes to use it to add to the gameplay feel.

You could use this code: http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=105611


Edit: It's mandatory to develop 4 heroes for the race? could it be only one?

 

[Pharaoh_]

Would that make your race balanced? If one of them dies, who will replace him?

 

[Dionesiist]

Who trains more than one hero apart from the AI?

 

[Kingz]

Who trains more than one hero apart from the AI?

With one hero, if the game drags on, you are bound to fail.

Thanks for the link moyack, i will look into it.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Dionesiist, if AI comes with 3 heroes and their units and you have 1 and several units, the only way to win the fight is either if your hero has great aoe protection and general stat increase aura or if your non-hero units possess abilities with high crowd control. Both cases are imbalanced.

 

[kari0003]

Who trains more than one hero apart from the AI?

At least 2 heroes necessary for easy win ^^


I think i'll use lumber in a different way too

 

[Kingz]

Im guessing 3 heroes is the optimum.

You can't have more than 3 anyway.

 

[Pharaoh_]

The heroes' number is not there just for an easy fight. A player should have options as to what kind of hero to pick. One hero cannot combine all attributes together, each one of them should have a particular role.

 

[Kingz]

Agreed but with the time left and the fact 3 was the original number of Warcraft heroes per race before Frozen Throne i think it's still quite enough.

Especially if you are making custom spells for each one.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I'm mentioning these details, in order to prevent you guys from losing points, when your entry will be reviewed. Feel free to create as many heroes as you like, just know that there will be a scaled penalty the less balanced the race is.

 

[Kingz]

Btw... shouldn't you rush the judging selection a bit? It's almost the deadline.

Also I hope I won't get penalty points for writing my own missile movement instead of using a existing missile system.

 

[kari0003]

And how you gonna test how balanced the race is?
It would be much fun playing around with this custom races ^^

 

[Wazzz]

a lot of imbalance is pretty obvious when it first presents itself

unfortunately blizzard decided to make heroes essential for gameplay purposes
i wonder if i'll bother coming up with more than the two heroes i've got, one of which being The Leveller as you may see in my previous WIP

 

[Kingz]

New WIP, infernal structures being summoned:

WIP

 

[BeTaGod-]

I'm in. Maybe i will go on Gnoll Race (i know, not as much creative as i'll liked to be). Will upload some WIPs soon. Cheers!

 

[Kingz]

Good luck then.

I wanted to make a Gnoll race also, but i wanna use the Overlord/Hell Fiend model so bad because it's one of my favorite units :>

Edit:

I just noticed something, Wraithling has won the last 2 tech tree contest and is participating in this one also.
Gonna be a bumpy ride.

 

[boomwolf]

Urg...real life makes this hard...

Even if I DO manage to finish, it won't be quite as impressive as I would like...doubtfully I'll even have time for truly custom spells...

 

[GhostThruster]

WIP 2. Changed/added a few ideas.
-Goblin Prince has three hero abilities, which can level up to max 4 (however he is still capped at level 10, so abilities would only be like level 4 1st ability, level 4 2nd, level 2 3rd). He also spawns in the beginning, but has no attack. When spawned, he gains one free Marketplace and Merchant Wagon where he can place in an appropriate place.
-Merchant Wagon still can steal, but I scrapped the 'more gold longer it takes' idea. Instead, wagons can carry 15 gold (but they cost 2 food). They won't be able to sell items.
-Scorpions will get the ability to launch Sappers as siege weapons. F*** yeah
-Engineers will get 3 hero abilities when they are not loaded; each can max up to level 2.

used Mephestrial's altered melee system.

 

[Pharaoh_]

@Kingz, I'll possibly be the judge, along with some X judge

 

[overcold_ice]

finally, my WIP ~.~
i'm working this map too slow,
ARGHHH!!!

Race: Arcanist
Description: An imbalanced race (at least just for now)
Or maybe the player's playing skill that affects that,
since i know all about it . .

btw, can the race have no heroes . . .
to the point -> does my race fits the criteria?

edit: this one is bugged a bit, i'll upload another one later

 

[part207]

some wips. i changed to a tuskarr race. theyre a nomadic race, with the ability to salvage their buildings and rebuild elsewhere. they train beast to aid them in defending their tribes.

--seems my net is too shitty to allow me to upload my wips <.<... guess ill up load it all tomorrow..--

 

[WerePhoenix]

My next WIP.
At least I'm not the only one with slow progress. xD
Fear not! The last place is mine.

 

[boomwolf]

Between a job and holiday cleaning (passover!) I really dont see it done in the next 2 day...I don't even have a WIP I am proud of yet...

Who's idea was it to make it this short? I doubt a single entry will be done in time...

 

[kari0003]

I can do it











Nah just april fools

 

[WerePhoenix]

So the last date is the 3rd of April 23:59:59 or the 2nd of April 23:59:59?

 

[boomwolf]

Will these 24 hours really matter?

 

[Kingz]

Im only short on heroes atm. Everything else has been done, just need to double check it later.

So im quite positive i will have a quite nice product by 3rd of april.