Storm Drop 1.25a

[DeathKing24712]

This seems fun! I'll give it a try

 

[Dancyspartan]

Just came out of a three game session with a friend.
We both play casually and had overall a lot of fun.

I won't get too into balance and such with the map being so young - but I felt it held up really nicely. One matchup was DK v Tinker which was very hard. The mechanical units denied nuking/Skeleton spawning to fuel the frontline DK, and ultimately ended in a pretty one-sided lategame affair.

I played Night Elves, Undead and Orc and enjoyed the nuance and differences. For players such as us the small scale, micro-focused and tempo directed gameplay suited nicely. The complexity and depth gradually rises over the course of the game which allows for meaningful mid-game strategizing.

On this subject: The command centers with their different bonuses are one such meaningful decision. The different abilities and bonuses are interesting and diverse. The human bonus of the passive income generation really suited the Orc playstyle - being heavily invested (at least more so) into self-serving unit production than the other races I tested.

The map itself was fine. It looked good, had distinct areas and felt real. The camps were a bit lacking, as even the strongest Revenant fell quite easily. By the third game the high value targets were eaten quick, as we grew more comfortable in snowballing the early game army into a mid-game grip.

The drop mechanic at the centre of this experience brought both joy and slight frustration, as such is the nature of RNG. And I wouldn't want it any other way. The Drop pools seems quite small so far, and as Orc particularly juggling the different weapons with the largely less useful regenerative abilities became quite APM intensive for a somewhat small gain.

All in all; a real good time. I hope to see more races, more maps of this game mode and perhaps a 1v1v1 or 1v1v1v1 game mode in the future? I think a team-oriented experience COULD work, but I wouldn't stand in line to play it.

BUG?: Also, the Death Knight has a kill-stopper as a passive to his ultimate. This in conjuction with rapid regeneration leaves him in a state of literal undead. As in cannot be truly killed. Something to look into?


Cheers!

 

[Drosme]

Just came out of a three game session with a friend.
We both play casually and had overall a lot of fun.

I won't get too into balance and such with the map being so young - but I felt it held up really nicely. One matchup was DK v Tinker which was very hard. The mechanical units denied nuking/Skeleton spawning to fuel the frontline DK, and ultimately ended in a pretty one-sided lategame affair.

I played Night Elves, Undead and Orc and enjoyed the nuance and differences. For players such as us the small scale, micro-focused and tempo directed gameplay suited nicely. The complexity and depth gradually rises over the course of the game which allows for meaningful mid-game strategizing.

On this subject: The command centers with their different bonuses are one such meaningful decision. The different abilities and bonuses are interesting and diverse. The human bonus of the passive income generation really suited the Orc playstyle - being heavily invested (at least more so) into self-serving unit production than the other races I tested.

The map itself was fine. It looked good, had distinct areas and felt real. The camps were a bit lacking, as even the strongest Revenant fell quite easily. By the third game the high value targets were eaten quick, as we grew more comfortable in snowballing the early game army into a mid-game grip.

The drop mechanic at the centre of this experience brought both joy and slight frustration, as such is the nature of RNG. And I wouldn't want it any other way. The Drop pools seems quite small so far, and as Orc particularly juggling the different weapons with the largely less useful regenerative abilities became quite APM intensive for a somewhat small gain.

All in all; a real good time. I hope to see more races, more maps of this game mode and perhaps a 1v1v1 or 1v1v1v1 game mode in the future? I think a team-oriented experience COULD work, but I wouldn't stand in line to play it.

BUG?: Also, the Death Knight has a kill-stopper as a passive to his ultimate. This in conjuction with rapid regeneration leaves him in a state of literal undead. As in cannot be truly killed. Something to look into?


Cheers!

Thanks for the feedback I'm planning to add more contents in the future.

BUG?: Also, the Death Knight has a kill-stopper as a passive to his ultimate. This in conjuction with rapid regeneration leaves him in a state of literal undead. As in cannot be truly killed. Something to look into?

The passive effect of Death Knight's ultimate is similar to SC2 Alarak's Soul Absorption ability, which steals life from nearby units you control to heal the hero when that hero approaching death. Hence, he is immortal for as long as he controls at least one unit nearby him. I'm intentionally make him very hard to kill after level 6 as he is a tank hero. That effect has some weakness as it's mandatory, especially hard to against to healing reduction effect (The opponent might force the Death Knight to sacrifice his own army in a sort time by focus fire on him.) I'm thinking about adding more healing reduction effect into the map since there are only orc hero has healing reduction effect for now (Orb of Fire). Maybe add some units that has healing reduction ability or add a new operation that can give units ability to reduce healing effectiveness.

 

[Dancyspartan]

No problems - as I said I enjoyed it very much.
The 4/5 rating is to leave room for improvement as it is still a very early version of the map.
I checked out your other map, Spring Liquidation, on the workshop yesterday and intend to give that a try. Seems like a good time.

For clarity I'm attaching a link to a video of the invincibility of the DK.
I'm aware of his ability to consume nearby friendly targets to heal - and it is a fun mechanic. Killing his army by attacking him directly is effective.

WC3_custom_map_bug_report

Watch "WC3_custom_map_bug_report" on Streamable.

streamable.com

 

[Drosme]

WC3_custom_map_bug_report

Watch "WC3_custom_map_bug_report" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Thanks for recording this. I didn't expect his ult can sacrifice wall of thorns. I'll fix that in next patch.

Here is the mechanic breakdown: The thorns wall have 40 life, and your hero has level 1 dark pact so he can restores 40 life for each time he sacrifices a thorn. But the blademaster has a level 1 Orb of Fire that can give a debuff to your hero which reduces 66% of his healing effect. Hence, your hero restores 40*(100%-66%) = 13.2 life for each time he sacrifice a thorn. (Here is the reason his life jump back to 14 every time he nears the death) I'll restrict ult's legal target on non-ward unit to fix this problem in next patch.

On the video 1:00 place, the hero casts Champion of the Death to summon a Skeletal Champion, immediately after that, the hero near to death, so he sacrifice that Skeletal Champion (I see the Final Reckoning ability triggers) , and because Skeletal Champions are benefit from Disease Cloud so it leaves a toxic cloud on battlefield.

I checked out your other map, Spring Liquidation, on the workshop yesterday and intend to give that a try. Seems like a good time.

I recommend run Spring Liquidation on 1.31 or 1.32, it seems broken on 1.35 and later version. After v1.35 the map has an UI issue that is very hard to fix.

 

[deepstrasz]

Definitely a creative map using both custom and core game mechanics.
Would be neat if the mod could be extended to more players in the future.

Approved.

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[Bergi]

The map took 30 minutes of my attention, it was a very interesting and new gaming experience. The work with the frames is done flawlessly. Unfortunately, this is not my genre of maps, which I like. Controlling more than one unit is still difficult. But this does not make the map bad, I recommend that everyone familiarize themselves with this project!

 

[Havanen]

I tried this map with the new 1.25a version. I like how you use base game stuffs and customize it in a way similar to quality of life improvements. Core mechanics are very creative and each hero even has their own different gameplay. Overall I had a lot of fun playing this and I enjoyed it very much. Great job in making this map.

 

[Drosme]

I tried this map with the new 1.25a version. I like how you use base game stuffs and customize it in a way similar to quality of life improvements. Core mechanics are very creative and each hero even has their own different gameplay. Overall I had a lot of fun playing this and I enjoyed it very much. Great job in making this map.

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