Thunder Storm Island

[mafe]

Well, not much to say here, except stuff I already told you on your other maps. The forests appear slightly smaller here. Maybe the itemdrop at the shops is slightly too strong (or the creeps slightly too weak).
But overall, it is a another good map, therefore approved.
I wonder, do you intend it to be played primarily for 1v1 or 2v2 (or even FFA)?

 

[WolfFarkas]

Well, not much to say here, except stuff I already told you on your other maps. The forests appear slightly smaller here. Maybe the itemdrop at the shops is slightly too strong (or the creeps slightly too weak).
But overall, it is a another good map, therefore approved.
I wonder, do you intend it to be played primarily for 1v1 or 2v2 (or even FFA)?

hi again!!, thanks!!

About the perma L4 in the shops I would like to reply:

In Terenas Stand LV, A perma L4 is the loot in a Level 17 camp, kobold 5-3-3-3-3 with command aura, slow, abolish magic and bash skills.
In my map, is a 6-4-4-2, level 16 with true shot aura and healing.
the level 5 kobold has 650 hp, the troll level 6 has 750.
Kobolds level 3 have 300 -325 hp.
trolls level 4 have 450.

While the trolls have less skills, the 6-4-4 trolls have more hp.

So I think considering Terenas LV as reference , a perma level 4 is what I consider ok.

Also thats a good place for a level 4 item, shops are in a competitive spot while gob labs and merc. camps dont,
The red creep has a level 5

about what I intended, with simetry x4, I was focus in a 4-FFA, the rest plays are secondary.

about 1v1, maybe to much mines (may favor humans) and creeps (no creep hacking), I wouldnt try this in 1v1 for a serious play.

 

[mafe]

Well,..... I think it is wrong on TSLV too

If you compare it to other maps:
-TM expansions, lvl 17 creeps, lvl 3 permanent.
-Echo Isles, big turtle spots: The same (iirc).
Even on TSLV itself, there is a lvl 16 camp, and it only drops a lvl 3 charged item (and no powerup in addition). TSLV itself isnt really a good example for itemdrops, beacuse when Blizzard designed it, they already went with (much) stronger items relative to the creeps than on other maps.

So yes, I still think that a lvl 16 camp should not drop a lvl 4 item, but it's not too far off from the (reasonable) standards to make a big deal out of it.

 

[WolfFarkas]

Well,..... I think it is wrong on TSLV too

If you compare it to other maps:
-TM expansions, lvl 17 creeps, lvl 3 permanent.
-Echo Isles, big turtle spots: The same (iirc).
Even on TSLV itself, there is a lvl 16 camp, and it only drops a lvl 3 charged item (and no powerup in addition). TSLV itself isnt really a good example for itemdrops, beacuse when Blizzard designed it, they already went with (much) stronger items relative to the creeps than on other maps.

So yes, I still think that a lvl 16 camp should not drop a lvl 4 item, but it's not too far off from the (reasonable) standards to make a big deal out of it.

And I was thinking I was going to win my point. Increased the gob markets camp level from 16 to 18, is 6-4-4-4, it has a troll priest with abolish magic and inner fire.