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[MogulKahn]

Uuu, nice thread!

 

[PROXY]

After quite a long pause I've found back to modelling a bit.

While finishing some requests I have to do, I worked a bit on a witcher like model.

Mesh is scratch made till now. Chest will get another texture, head will be edited from arthas or something.

 

[Stefan.K]

Sounds interesting. What about the weapon? What is he going to wield?

 

[PROXY]

Classic sword, don't wanna go too fancy.

Next thing up is the medallion, then finding animations and rigging needs to be done.

 

[Stefan.K]

Hm, nice update. I think the head is a little big, but that's just me. Also, boots. Maybe try to tweak that with Medivh's texture?

 

[PROXY]

Mesh done for.

What problem is there with the boots?

 

[Tauer]

Looking great so far!

One thing though. The feet and hands look very small. Well, they look realistically proportioned which would be great if not for that fact that it's for Warcraft 3. WC3 models tend to be have very exaggerated proportions, because of the RTS camera angles. If the proportions are too realistic you can't see any of the details because they are too small.

Look at the bandit for example:

The hands/feet are as big as his head. And the bandit is not even that bad, look at Arthas:

Hands are even bigger than his head.

Anyway, just my two cents. If realistic is what you're going for then that's great! But if you want the model to fit WC3 better I'd probably scale up the hands/feet a bit.

 

[Deolrin]

Fantastic work. I love the details. Unfortunately, however, this model suffers the same problem as much of your other work. This Geralt looks far too thin - less like a badass Witcher, and more like a scrawny teenagers. Bulk him up a bit! His shoulders, legs and arms look like sphagetti right now. Look at some other models, like the Blademaster, or Arthas, and try and give him proportions more similar to that.
Also, something is a bit off about his head and hair. Have you tried using the white Hair.blp from one of the campaign menu screens? I think you should cover up his forehead a bit more with the hair, and make the hair a bit less "Arthas"-like.
Also, I haven't played any of the Witcher games, but doesn't he usually have cat-like glowing eyes? Those would be a great addition!

EDIT: Everything Tauer said applies, too. I haven't seen his comment.

 

[PROXY]

Thanks guys

Jeah proportions are always my biggest enemy ;_; Hope I can fix them.

 

[Radagast]

Skinny arms and legs, looks like he uses children sizes for legs, Other than that he looks damn good.

 

[Duke]

Pretty nice, it could also look good if you added some bags and holsters for his potions and stuff

 

[paladinjst]

good work , but actually the warcraft style and the visual angle of the game don't fit the shinny arms and legs . and we had seen many Arthas-like or Proudmoore-like or Kael-like faces , try to use two diferent parts' textures and make the face looks like unique .

 

[PROXY]

Goblin assasin. Works with gadgets but also with potions, poisons and stuff.

Mask and gadgets are kinda inspired by dishonored.

And she's female, kinda not too noticable, but she has maiev animations.

Still something is lacking, more teamcolour of course, but something that makes her stand out.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Goblin assasin. Works with gadgets but also with potions, poisons and stuff.

Mask and gadgets are kinda inspired by dishonored.

And she's female, kinda not too noticable, but she has maiev animations.

Still something is lacking, more teamcolour of course, but something that makes her stand out.

Fascinating; nice idea. I like the mixture of Chem & Mech.

I agree she could use a bit more TC, but in a way you can get away with less-than-normal, saying she's sort of a "spy" unit (i.e. shouldn't be super-noticeable). Still, an extra *something*...

Also, I think she'll be great as a unit, but not sure she'll be impressive/heroic enough as a Hero (common issue in your models, really. Sorry I can't think of how to improve it).

I think the skull-mask-with-zoom-lens looks pretty wicked, but I think it might be doing the character a disservice. Hard to tell it's a Goblin or a she; almost makes me think "demon" or "undead" or something. Maybe a long bouncy ponytail? Or a sharp, jutting chin? Or a crazy hair style poking out of the wraps?

Pretty neat stuff. : )

 

[Tauer]

Looking good so far! I love the skull mask. But I agree with Kyrbi0, it makes it a bit hard to see that it's not undead. I'd try to blow up the proportions of some things to make it a bit clearer that it's a goblin.
Maybe make the nose longer? Scaling up the ears could work as well, but they are already quite large.

If you want more TC couldn't you make the scarf team colored?

Keep it up

 

[PROXY]

News. The Goddess of War is now mounted and ready to rumble.

Features thrall animations combined with the felbeast and wolf animations.

Edit: Made some minor updates and uploaded it to the model section

Edit: Final version with flaming blade.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Pretty sick.

 

[rcshaggy]

Nice model for ever if someone did a Demonic Race Army. :L

 

[PROXY]

News: Guldan. Gonna hop on the orc hero hype train.

The team coloured part of his robe will get a better texture.

To come: Spikes out of his back, staff, and all the other wod staff.

 

[Deolrin]

He looks really good! I love the robes, shoulders and all of the skull accessories. However, I think you should look into some minor animation fixes with WarForger or MDLVis or something to make his hands look a bit less broken, since they do look a little strange right now. And also, for some reason his face looks a little... Strange, to me. The eyes may be a bit too squished, or something about the mouth. The idea of that mouth is cool, but for some reason in practice it looks a bit strange. Maybe making the eyes slightly bigger and less squinted will fix it though.


...Dem Blademaster sandals, tho.

 

[Tauer]

News: Guldan. Gonna hop on the orc hero hype train.

The team coloured part of his robe will get a better texture.

To come: Spikes out of his back, staff, and all the other wod staff.

Awesome! I do love Orcish Heroes

Looking great right now, I like the skulls. That smile is wicked awesome haha. I'd probably decrease the space between his nice and mouth a bit though. I'm glad you used the Far Seer texture for the head, that's always how I pictured Gul'Dan in my head:

Gul'Dan

I don't like his stereotypical old/wrinkled/distorted villain face in WoD.

I'll probably be making my own Gul'Dan at some point too

 

[PROXY]

Thanks guys.

I'm looking into his face later.

Added staff, chains, finished robe. Not sure if I should actually add the spikes on his back or not, he looks really cool now as he is...

 

[Deolrin]

Wow. That's awesome. Loving how this is turning out.

 

[Tauer]

Looking sweet.

I definately don't think you need to add spikes on his back. Just useless clutter imo, and it doesn't look very cool on the WoD model.

 

[paladinjst]

i perfer adding the spikes on his back . why Blizzard design all the warlocks' back with spikes and bones even in warcraft 3 ? of course there is some reasons . u know , Guldan is a thin and bony orc . so the reason why Blizzard add the spikes on his back is that they want him look a bit 'stronger' , looks more like a boss .

for example , a cone will looks like more sharp than a sphere . so those spikes will give the charater some 'growing power' aesthetic feeling . will give him potential stretching forces . sorry for my English , i am not sure if u can read this , but this is principle in art .

if u wont add them , just pull off ur cam to look at the WIP pics or just stay the pic size with the attached thumbnails : he has no special points , we will just find that he is a caster , even we can not see clearly that he is a orc .

so if a boss , or a hero has no his own characteristics , then it will be a failed art design .

u know a game character always need to see its general looks . especially with the warcraft 3 game angle . now the works are really nice , but now it just look like a nice caster , but not a nice Guldan .

and most of the artists from blizzard are really great in all the game companies . so their art designs are really good works . as a professional artist in a game company , i can see that , just trust me . good work for it ~

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'm lovin' that Gul'dan, man. Quite cool.

I unfortunately must echo (at least in part) what Paladinjst is trying to say; it's actually something I think many of your models could use. That is to say, you make excellent models, but more often than not I feel the Heroes lack a certain "heroic-ness". One of the ways this is achieved (at least in Wc3) is by having some ridiculous 'set-piece', some prop or nurny (weapon, backpack, feature, etc) that really helps give the model a sense of 'greatness' and 'grandeur'.

Team Fortress 2 is another amazing example (if I may so compare) when it comes to the utter relevance of aesthetics in game design; one of the most striking & memorable features is the aesthetics. Not just the colors & shading (they took forever making all-new shaders & stuff for it), but by virtue of the character's themselves; the silhouettes are unique & discernable at a great distance, and each is a manifestation of the character.

Now, I must say I'm also not a huge fan of the ridiculous back-spike-rack thing (now with new Skull (TM) attachments!)... But something? Perhaps a giant broken section of Mannoroth's tusk, laden with demonic runes? Or a giant bubbling cauldron (well, more Trollish really)? Summat.

Still, lookin' good. Love the face.

 

[Tauer]

i perfer adding the spikes on his back . why Blizzard design all the warlocks' back with spikes and bones even in warcraft 3 ? of course there is some reasons . u know , Guldan is a thin and bony orc . so the reason why Blizzard add the spikes on his back is that they want him look a bit 'stronger' , looks more like a boss .

for example , a cone will looks like more sharp than a sphere . so those spikes will give the charater some 'growing power' aesthetic feeling . will give him potential stretching forces . sorry for my English , i am not sure if u can read this , but this is principle in art .

if u wont add them , just pull off ur cam to look at the WIP pics or just stay the pic size with the attached thumbnails : he has no special points , we will just find that he is a caster , even we can not see clearly that he is a orc .

so if a boss , or a hero has no his own characteristics , then it will be a failed art design .

u know a game character always need to see its general looks . especially with the warcraft 3 game angle . now the works are really nice , but now it just look like a nice caster , but not a nice Guldan .

and most of the artists from blizzard are really great in all the game companies . so their art designs are really good works . as a professional artist in a game company , i can see that , just trust me . good work for it ~

Very good point. I never thought of it that way. The silhouette is indeed especially important when it comes to low-poly models, and without something towering over him on his back his silhouette would be very underwhelming.

I'd listen to Paladinjst if I were you, the guy is a professional. He knows what he's talking about

But I agree with Kyrbi0, that you could perhaps add something else than the WoW spike-thingy, which I really find ugly and stereotypical as f*ck. But maybe that's just me.

 

[paladinjst]

I'm lovin' that Gul'dan, man. Quite cool.

I unfortunately must echo (at least in part) what Paladinjst is trying to say; it's actually something I think many of your models could use. That is to say, you make excellent models, but more often than not I feel the Heroes lack a certain "heroic-ness". One of the ways this is achieved (at least in Wc3) is by having some ridiculous 'set-piece', some prop or nurny (weapon, backpack, feature, etc) that really helps give the model a sense of 'greatness' and 'grandeur'.

Team Fortress 2 is another amazing example (if I may so compare) when it comes to the utter relevance of aesthetics in game design; one of the most striking & memorable features is the aesthetics. Not just the colors & shading (they took forever making all-new shaders & stuff for it), but by virtue of the character's themselves; the silhouettes are unique & discernable at a great distance, and each is a manifestation of the character.

Now, I must say I'm also not a huge fan of the ridiculous back-spike-rack thing (now with new Skull (TM) attachments!)... But something? Perhaps a giant broken section of Mannoroth's tusk, laden with demonic runes? Or a giant bubbling cauldron (well, more Trollish really)? Summat.

Still, lookin' good. Love the face.

I'm so glad to see that u know what i say . u know , i still worried about my bad English will not express clearly .

Very good point. I never thought of it that way. The silhouette is indeed especially important when it comes to low-poly models, and without something towering over him on his back his silhouette would be very underwhelming.

I'd listen to Paladinjst if I were you, the guy is a professional. He knows what he's talking about

But I agree with Kyrbi0, that you could perhaps add something else than the WoW spike-thingy, which I really find ugly and stereotypical as f*ck. But maybe that's just me.

thanks bro , u always give me great support . i was wondering if anybody could read my suck English . u r really nice ~

 

[PROXY]

Thanks for the advice people.

I'm very well aware of the problem with the "herofication" of my models and I'm trying to improve these flaws.

So I followed your advice and added the spikes and stuff, how do you like them?

The skulls resulted in a high poly count but the file size is not really high.

Just need someone to fix the walk animation (staff is moving not right and I can't fix it). I asked JesusHipster but I don't know if he has time. Then it can be released.

 

[paladinjst]

really much better now . and Guldan is still a important character in WOW 7.0 and Illidan has return !!

 

[Tauer]

Thanks for the advice people.

I'm very well aware of the problem with the "herofication" of my models and I'm trying to improve these flaws.

So I followed your advice and added the spikes and stuff, how do you like them?

The skulls resulted in a high poly count but the file size is not really high.

Just need someone to fix the walk animation (staff is moving not right and I can't fix it). I asked JesusHipster but I don't know if he has time. Then it can be released.

Very cool! You actually managed to get it to look better than the WoD version, which is too overdone imo.

really much better now . and Guldan is still a important character in WOW 7.0 and Illidan has return !!

Wait, didn't Illidan die in one of those anticlimactic boss-battles? Ah good old WoW, butt****ing the lore as always.

 

[paladinjst]

Very cool! You actually managed to get it to look better than the WoD version, which is too overdone imo.



Wait, didn't Illidan die in one of those anticlimactic boss-battles? Ah good old WoW, butt****ing the lore as always.

the new story setting is Demon will never die unless he is in Twisting Nether .
7.0 is Legion's return with Naga's attack . Demon hunter is a new class .

 

[Deolrin]

Yeah, don't bother with WoW, Tauer. The lore's been on a downward spiral ever since Burning Crusade pretty much.

PROXY - I like what you did with the spikes, but imo the red-ish Diablo texture doesn't fit all that well. Plus, you could've gone for the lower-poly skulls, at least for some of them. But it looks good, nevertheless!

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'm very well aware of the problem with the "herofication" of my models and I'm trying to improve these flaws.

That's more than cool; sorry, wasn't trying to seem 'naggy' or whatever.

So I followed your advice and added the spikes and stuff, how do you like them?

The skulls resulted in a high poly count but the file size is not really high.

Not bad. That might be just what the warlock ordered. : )

My only concern (and seeing it close-up might the actual problem; in-game view might be fine) is that the back will look really... 'busy'? Like a lot going on, all the spikes, lines on the spikes, stuff on the spikes... (While my "demon-rune-carved pit-lord-tusk" idea was pulled out of absolutely nowhere, I must admit I'm actually starting to think that's a killer idea for an Orc Warlock-dude (like, whereas Garrosh (Orc Barbarian) had spiked pit-lord-tusks over his shoulder like armor, Gul'dan (Orc Warlock) would feature the same accoutrément, just different)). But again, might not be a problem.

Most importantly, gives him that extra 'oomph'. Pretty sick model overall, man. : )

 

[PROXY]

Thanks guys.

The colour of the spiks will be dealt with an geoset animation.

And I'm sorry if I sounded offensive Kyrbi. That was not my intention at all.

 

[paladinjst]

what problem with walking animation ? i really wanna this released .

 

[PROXY]

Well the problem with the staff is, that it originally was attached to a "staff" bone that moved it's own way only following the hand. But attaching it to this bone doesn't work anymore, as the anatomy isn't the same and I can't tweak it right.

Attaching it to the hand bone works fine, except for the walking animation, it glitches through the shoulders heavily. I tried to fix it in Mdlvis but it seems that I can't work on the animations like others can.

Even if I give the staff a completly new bone with now keyframes at start, the bone still moves back to the last keyframe when I go to the next keyframe I want to edit. Ofc. I can move it for example forward again, but it creates big jumping and "flattering" of the bone and jumps around really quickly. Don't know if you get what I mean.

 

[paladinjst]

u can send it to me with PM and wish i can slove this problem . i can do it in the weekend .

 

[Kyrbi0]

And I'm sorry if I sounded offensive Kyrbi. That was not my intention at all.

Oh no, not offensive in the least; I was just worried as it sounded a bit... 'snippy', as if you were getting annoyed hearing that from me (which, by all rights, you should xD).

u can send it to me with PM and wish i can slove this problem . i can do it in the weekend .

Whatta guy.

 

[paladinjst]

Oh no, not offensive in the least; I was just worried as it sounded a bit... 'snippy', as if you were getting annoyed hearing that from me (which, by all rights, you should xD).


Whatta guy.

i had solved the problem . now we just need to wait this model released by PROXY .

 

[Tauer]

i had solved the problem . now we just need to wait this model released by PROXY .

Awesome!

Looking forward to seeing a proper Gul'Dan in all his glory.

 

[PROXY]

Thanks to paladinjst and JesusHipster the problem was resolved and the model is uploaded. New stuff to come soon.

Edit: News: Forest Troll Bow Hero. Edited from my Clan Queen model. Early state.

 

[Windrunner29]

It looks cool ! Will you make a non-hero version ?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Edit: News: Forest Troll Bow Hero. Edited from my Clan Queen model. Early state.

Hey, pretty cool. I never would have thought of Forest Trolls + Bows... That being said, while there are a lot of Archer Heroes in Wc3 (seriously, ever count them out? Priestess of the Moon, Dark Ranger, Naga Sea Witch... and that's just the playable ones), this one promises to be interesting.

The mask obscures a lot of the face, but I like the 'panther' look it gives her.

Nice 'Bride-of-Frankenstein' hair, there, lady. ;P

I'll have to put some thought into what could make her more heroic. Cloaks are overdone, can't give her a snake tail/medusa head/four arms, and riding a tiger is taken... Hmm.

 

[PROXY]

Maybe, I'm not certain if she's ending up as a hero anyway.

Other news:

This guy:

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Got a remake. Still thinking about chaning the texture of the mount back to normal nightsabre (or POTM) or keeping the wolf texture, wich is a tad more creative.

 

[MogulKahn]

You should keep wolf textures, but honestly, he is too armored. At least, change that helm!
As for that forest troll, no offense, but that mask is awful, if it is done. It looks too much robot-ish. At least make one with and one without mask, and publish them both!

 

[Kyrbi0]

Maybe, I'm not certain if she's ending up as a hero anyway.

Other news:

This guy:

Hidden

Got a remake. Still thinking about chaning the texture of the mount back to normal nightsabre (or POTM) or keeping the wolf texture, wich is a tad more creative.

I actually really like the wolf-texture; it is creative & different (reminds me of a badger or something).

The guy, on the other hand, looks off... Perhaps in part because he looks naked? I had to glance twice to see the leg armor.

 

[PROXY]

You actually checked the attachments good sir? The big picture was the old version

Anyway, new weapon, fixed the clippings, model is done.

 

[Kyrbi0]

You actually checked the attachments good sir? The big picture was the old version

Anyway, new weapon, fixed the clippings, model is done.

I was indeed. Looks much nicer.

 

[PROXY]

Just to keep this thread updated too: Eredar Female Warlock for the wizard contest.

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Any ideas for a weapon // possible animation sets (please spare me of jaina)