Official WarCraft IV Discussion

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Tbh, this whole thread is kinda sad in one way or another. Seeing how people still want the game that, we can now safely say, we know isn't gonna happen, ever.

And after the whole Refunded fiasco, we can basically confirm our suspicion that it's never gonna happen, not that any of us were thinking it was likely to happen even before Refunded. And WoW BfA being a failure certainly isn't gonna help either.

To top it all off, RTS is (sadly :() pretty much a dead genre, so if Blizzard ever decides to do another RTS, which seems really unlikely in a long long time, chances that it's gonna be Starcraft 3: Warcraft 4 are something like 10:1.
I think they can do a new game based in something like total war franchise. It's like an evolved version of Nobunaga's Ambition mixed with cinematic strategic battles. They did a Warhammer version, so I think a warcraft or even Starcraft version should be amazing too. I'm sure there should be some mods already for the current game versions since Medieval II total war.
RTS are not "dead"propertly. But the formula is outdated in several ways.Fire emblem was dead too and reborn from it's ashes with gloripus games to Nintendo Switch and N3DS. However, if warcraft don't evolve they will lose customers and that's a fact. Blizzard will still milking WoW till it becomes econonomicaly inviable but with China paying for it I have my doubt it will die soon.
Personaly I hated what they did with Calia (turn her into a "forsaken" just to don't move the forsaken from their starting zone). WoW best expansion was Cataclysm because they changed ALL the world and the starting zone events. That was a true expansion in my personal point of view but well... let's see... the last good expansion was Legion because they killed a lot of old characters and past the crown to Anduin and that was amazing... Illidan and the demon hunters, traveling to argus and defeat Sargeras. For me WoW ended there. Now the plot about the old gods and the upside down from Stranger Things.... oh boy... I have my doubts..

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Azeroth is a god not a dragon as far as I am aware. The Dragons were just a blessed race of monsters gifted power by other gods (not Azeroth) to help protect Azeroth during development. Azeroth is meant to be in an immature state and so incapable of direct intervention, which is why it is up to the heroes of WoW to fight instead against the many threats. Any Void Lord touched being would be capable of permanently corrupting Azeroth upon contact with her core, which is why the Old Gods posed such a threat despite being weak compared to their creators.

Due to the corruption of Death Wing and the resulting events the dragon flight was forced to give away most of their gifted divine power. This has left them in a state of limbo where lore wise there is no detail as to what they are mostly doing and what is happening to them. This was likely done for gameplay reasons to prevent players becoming to attached to them and starting to think about every Dragon they killed in WoW being a sentient being with little to no malice which would make the "heroes" the evil. Honestly they really should have been turned into a playable race in WoW, after all one can play as anthromorphic Pandas and Dogs so why not Dragons?

I'm agree. Dragonkind should be a playable race. Also ogres. Now we have "sub races" from trolls and helf... why not Ogres and dragons instead the gremblins? Even the idea of play an bicefal ogre with two players like you can do in HotS is an amazing idea (the first player in will take the active head and full control of the body till the player 2 log in, then the player 2 cast the spells and you attack melee and move).
 
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'Reforged' rhymes with 'Four'; this means they are announcing Warcraft IV soon.
They have already given us a hint.
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I have also decoded more messages from Reforged regarding Warcraft 4 if you want them then feel free to ask me.
 
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Even if Warcraft 4 were to happen... after the debacle that is Warcraft 3: Reforged and the irrefutable, undeniable proof that Activision is now calling the shots at Blizzard, why in the name of all that is holy would we even WANT a fourth entry in the series??! We should already know it'll be nothing but garbage under this regime.
 
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Even if Warcraft 4 were to happen... after the debacle that is Warcraft 3: Reforged and the irrefutable, undeniable proof that Activision is now calling the shots at Blizzard, why in the name of all that is holy would we even WANT a fourth entry in the series??! We should already know it'll be nothing but garbage under this regime.
Agreed. ActiBlizz showed complete and utter neglect and uncaring towards the game and the community (despite claiming to care very much for both). More than that, in Usual-for-AAA-Style, they insulted the fans and shook off any responsibility for this failure.

Blizzard doesn't care, they abandoned WC3 and any potential sequels. Plain and simple.

And it's a good thing. They'd end up making another failure.
 
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They should just stop calling themselves Blizzard at this point. It's just Activision now. Hell, I can't be the only person who noticed that one year Mike Morhaime was the CEO of Blizzard Entertainment and then the next year he was just the President of Blizzard Entertainment. Blizzard doesn't have a CEO anymore, that means it's no longer independent. Activision's dug its claws in deeper, and Reforged is the ultimate result of that.
 
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They should just stop calling themselves Blizzard at this point. It's just Activision now. Hell, I can't be the only person who noticed that one year Mike Morhaime was the CEO of Blizzard Entertainment and then the next year he was just the President of Blizzard Entertainment. Blizzard doesn't have a CEO anymore, that means it's no longer independent. Activision's dug its claws in deeper, and Reforged is the ultimate result of that.
I am not entirely even sure it matters. Even if Blizzard remained just that, it probably would have succumbed to this anyways. Seemingly this happens with most large Video Game companies.

Look at Tale Worlds. They were a small indie dev crew, and created M&B - a Sandbox game that was just awesome. They even announced a sequel. But after getting their millions, they got lazy and it took them 10 years to release a buggy demo for a sequel... And they are being dishonest, and not communicating just like Blizz.

Look at Naughty Dog. Made some decent games before, games that were beloved by fans, but recently has adopted EA's style of abusing their fans, and actually doubling down on that. On top of releasing a completely underwhelming game with terrible story.

The Golden Days of gaming were when Video Games weren't such a big industry, and they were being made by few, small, but very dedicated developer companies.
 
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I am not entirely even sure it matters. Even if Blizzard remained just that, it probably would have succumbed to this anyways. Seemingly this happens with most large Video Game companies.

Look at Tale Worlds. They were a small indie dev crew, and created M&B - a Sandbox game that was just awesome. They even announced a sequel. But after getting their millions, they got lazy and it took them 10 years to release a buggy demo for a sequel... And they are being dishonest, and not communicating just like Blizz.

Look at Naughty Dog. Made some decent games before, games that were beloved by fans, but recently has adopted EA's style of abusing their fans, and actually doubling down on that. On top of releasing a completely underwhelming game with terrible story.

The Golden Days of gaming were when Video Games weren't such a big industry, and they were being made by few, small, but very dedicated developer companies.

It sucks, because those Golden Days of gaming are how these companies became so big in the first place. You'd think the best way for them to continue to grow would be to keep doing things the way they did originally.
 
Warcraft 4 is consists of four campaigns.

1. Fury of the Alliance (Human Campaign): Command the forces of Stormwind and lead Varian to ultimate victory.

2. Dawn of the Forsaken (Undead Campaign): Defeat the Scourge and the Lich King and bring ultimate power to the Dark Lady.

3. Revenge of the Horde (Orc Campaign): Restore the honor of the Horde and command the Warchief Thrall to bring peace to his race.

4. Legacy of the Sentinels (Night Elf Campaign): Protect Ashenvale and beyond from invaders.

I think WC4 has four main characters in the campaign; Varian, Sylvanas, Thrall and Tyrande.
 
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Warcraft 4 is consists of four campaigns.

1. Fury of the Alliance (Human Campaign): Command the forces of Stormwind and lead Varian to ultimate victory.

2. Dawn of the Forsaken (Undead Campaign): Defeat the Scourge and the Lich King and bring ultimate power to the Dark Lady.

3. Revenge of the Horde (Orc Campaign): Restore the honor of the Horde and command the Warchief Thrall to bring peace to his race.

4. Legacy of the Sentinels (Night Elf Campaign): Protect Ashenvale and beyond from invaders.

I think WC4 has four main characters in the campaign; Varian, Sylvanas, Thrall and Tyrande.
1. Was Varian even a thing before the mmo-that-shall-not-be-named fanfic'ed him into existence?

2. Why not the opposite? "Down with the Pests" (Undead Campaign): Arthas gets rid of this annoyance called Sylvanas.
Or maybe let's go for a more realistic (lore-wise) option? Once Arthas merges with Ner'Zhul and regains his power, Sylvanas and the rest of the "Forsaken" are taken back under Lich King's command.

3. Revenge against what, exactly? End of Warcraft III had humans and orcs at least on truce terms, if not friendly.

4. Protect Ashenvale against what invaders? End of Warcraft III had orcs and humans both become allied with Night Elves.
 
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I don't think Warcraft 4 would happen, I would like for it to happen but, that would ruin the WoW storyline and all, I mean, what story would warcraft 4 have and how would it look? Blizzard already disappointed us with reforged, I would really like to see a new story with the cinematics and all the UIs and all the promised features from reforged but I don't think it would happend sadly
 
I don't think Warcraft 4 would happen, I would like for it to happen but, that would ruin the WoW storyline and all, I mean, what story would warcraft 4 have and how would it look? Blizzard already disappointed us with reforged, I would really like to see a new story with the cinematics and all the UIs and all the promised features from reforged but I don't think it would happend sadly
since it definitely would be about the Fourth War I assume it would start at Varian declaring war in the Undercity
 
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The best way to approach to WC4 is a paralel universe to WoW that link both games (you can unlock features playing WoW for WC4 or viceversa). WC4 should explorate a new world with dark magic like the neatherworld (where Draenor fragments remains).
I agree about a parallel world idea, but WC4 should not explore a new world. Shadowlands is already a mess in terms of story telling, continuity and gameplay. The way I see it, WC4 should continue where WC3:TFT left off - Illidan dead or missing, entire northern Eastern Kingdoms crawling with undead, Quel'thalas still in ruins (with Kael still in Outland and Blood elf leftovers trying to reclaim their former lands), and of course, the Lich King rising again, more powerful than ever before, Sylvanas and Forsaken back under LK's control.
 
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