Modeling Contest #26 - STEAMPUNK

[Kyrbi0]

Anyway, here is another WIP, with goblins now:

I think the mesh is now mostly complete.

Hey, lookin' cool. Minimage must be jealous. I like that little 'gear-minigun-seat' that the Goblin in front is using, especially.

Im in

Hey, cool! Haven't seen anything from you in a while, so I look forward to your entry. So far it looks interesting (though something about it seems a tiny bit 'un-Warcraft-ish'... I'm being very vague, so I'm probably wrong, but just my thoughts... ), and I can't wait to see what the Arms are.

they (the weapons) aren't meant to be detailed, ... to make them bigger isn't just not necessary, them being small is crucial to burrow being able to work where the arms subtract inside the head.

Oh, sorry, I thought it was a gun. It's not really a big deal to me whether they are guns or tazers or drills or whatever.
That being said, I think you may have missed my point; I don't think they should become more detailed (because as you pointed out, this is a simple-type model (unit or summon; not a Hero or building with tons of polies & SFX & animations); just more "Warcraft-y", which in this case would mean "bigger and more exaggerated. It's hard to explain, but the Wc3-style lives off of massive pauldrons & overly-large weapons & super-huge SFX & giant flowy capes & huge meaty hands, etc... It's just sort of a part of the whole "silly over-the-top fantasy feel". If you're making something that could fit in Wc3 (especially the crazy Goblins ), that's something to consider.

On that note, I understand you keeping them small for the sake of realism... But again, 'realism' is often thrown out the window when it comes to Wc3 modeling. A lot of the coolest stuff Blizzard (& our own Wc3-modding guys) have made has been intentionally un-real, and over-the-top.

and if people keeping telling me its not steam punk, then you haven't played dishonored. dishonored is pure steam punk, but everything's powered by whale oil burning to make electricity. MiniMage told me about this contest, and I asked him if a star wars buzz droid, red alert 3 terror drone, sc2 terran widow mine combination made wc3 goblin with a bit of mix from tim burtons ''Nine'' would be good for this contest and he said it'd be great. ''steam punk'' doesn't HAVE to have a chimney with coal and water with a furnace running, its a style of machinery and art, powered by many means, whether its whale oil, electricity, coal, oil, steam, magic what ever, if you guys are too rigid about ''steam punk'' requiring STEAM to power every models locomotion here your not going to get the diversity to make this interesting, steam punk is a way of describing machinery and machinery's looks..... like how wc3 goblins models are often steam punk. il be adding small exhaust pipes later to the back of his head that also subtract into his head for burrow to work, just give me a chance guys sheesh! its not even half done!. and this is my first contest ever so.
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''i think it's hard to give a clear definition of this word...''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

bascialy its everything lol

Kellym0,
I definitely agree with you, in this thread i've seen too much comments very narrow-minded about what steampunk should be or should not be... I think all models presented there have something related to steampunk, i think it's hard to give a clear definition of this word...

Hey, we're not trying to bash a first-contest-goer-guy. We're here to help. : )

At the root of this issue, I believe, stands the fact that one word can mean a lot of different things to different people; in order to host a contest like this where a Theme is voted upon, decided upon, and then made the "standard" for a contest, the Theme should be explained in clear terms that make the outcome plain, leaving no uncertainty.

I am not sure this was done sufficiently for "Steampunk". It appears Minimage and others have one idea of "Steampunk", and many others share a different idea.

If I may submit, I believe their suggestions to you are merely trying to avoid everyone making models that are too "generically Mechanical"; i.e. if your model could fit just as easily in a "Make a Mechanical Unit - Modeling Contest", then that's the issue they see. To some, "Steampunk" is a valid & significantly-different style of "mechanicks"; one that does indeed run (pretty much) solely on Steam Power (so boilers & furnaces & turbines & chimneys & steam/smoke & such), and often has a strong 'Victorian-era' aesthetic (hard to describe, so I'd suggest looking it up; H.G. Wells, big flowy dresses, monocles, top hats, 'how technology would look if designed by 17th century English-men); a lot of the mechanical marvels of the "Leviathan" trilogy by Scott Westerfeld are a great example of the Steampunk genre.

Anyway, big-wall-of-text aside, I think that maybe the issue some are having with some of the entries so far in this contest. It's nothing personal; but it's an issue that I wish was resolved before people started; that is, a strict & clear definition of terms (in the Theme).

(On a sidenote, I think big spinning gears will definitely go a long way towards making your neat Terror/Goblin/Death Drone-thing both more 'Goblin-y' and more 'Steampunk-y'. )

 

[MiniMage]

Icewolf055,
reminds me something, lol.

Kellym0,
I definitely agree with you, in this thread i've seen too much comments very narrow-minded about what steampunk should be or should not be... I think all models presented there have something related to steampunk, i think it's hard to give a clear definition of this word...

Anyway, here is another WIP, with goblins now:

I think the mesh is now mostly complete.

Kellym0,
Seeing your model seems to be such a sophisticated thing, maybe it would be a good idea to show some internal machinery (like what can be seen in expensive watches), since steampunk often rely on showing complex mechanisms. What do you think?

Fucking sweet dude. Whoo for goblins. Seriously, I will be using that model when you are done with it. I tried making hoverships multiple times before, but I just never got happy with it. Your model however, is lovely. ;D

 

[icewolf055]

My 2nd WIP, i removed the hood lol.

Hidden

Still no armor just yet

 

[Pvt.Toma]

Hey, lookin' cool. Minimage must be jealous. I like that little 'gear-minigun-seat' that the Goblin in front is using, especially.


Hey, cool! Haven't seen anything from you in a while, so I look forward to your entry. So far it looks interesting (though something about it seems a tiny bit 'un-Warcraft-ish'... I'm being very vague, so I'm probably wrong, but just my thoughts... ), and I can't wait to see what the Arms are.


Oh, sorry, I thought it was a gun. It's not really a big deal to me whether they are guns or tazers or drills or whatever.
That being said, I think you may have missed my point; I don't think they should become more detailed (because as you pointed out, this is a simple-type model (unit or summon; not a Hero or building with tons of polies & SFX & animations); just more "Warcraft-y", which in this case would mean "bigger and more exaggerated. It's hard to explain, but the Wc3-style lives off of massive pauldrons & overly-large weapons & super-huge SFX & giant flowy capes & huge meaty hands, etc... It's just sort of a part of the whole "silly over-the-top fantasy feel". If you're making something that could fit in Wc3 (especially the crazy Goblins ), that's something to consider.

On that note, I understand you keeping them small for the sake of realism... But again, 'realism' is often thrown out the window when it comes to Wc3 modeling. A lot of the coolest stuff Blizzard (& our own Wc3-modding guys) have made has been intentionally un-real, and over-the-top.



Hey, we're not trying to bash a first-contest-goer-guy. We're here to help. : )

At the root of this issue, I believe, stands the fact that one word can mean a lot of different things to different people; in order to host a contest like this where a Theme is voted upon, decided upon, and then made the "standard" for a contest, the Theme should be explained in clear terms that make the outcome plain, leaving no uncertainty.

I am not sure this was done sufficiently for "Steampunk". It appears Minimage and others have one idea of "Steampunk", and many others share a different idea.

If I may submit, I believe their suggestions to you are merely trying to avoid everyone making models that are too "generically Mechanical"; i.e. if your model could fit just as easily in a "Make a Mechanical Unit - Modeling Contest", then that's the issue they see. To some, "Steampunk" is a valid & significantly-different style of "mechanicks"; one that does indeed run (pretty much) solely on Steam Power (so boilers & furnaces & turbines & chimneys & steam/smoke & such), and often has a strong 'Victorian-era' aesthetic (hard to describe, so I'd suggest looking it up; H.G. Wells, big flowy dresses, monocles, top hats, 'how technology would look if designed by 17th century English-men); a lot of the mechanical marvels of the "Leviathan" trilogy by Scott Westerfeld are a great example of the Steampunk genre.

Anyway, big-wall-of-text aside, I think that maybe the issue some are having with some of the entries so far in this contest. It's nothing personal; but it's an issue that I wish was resolved before people started; that is, a strict & clear definition of terms (in the Theme).

(On a sidenote, I think big spinning gears will definitely go a long way towards making your neat Terror/Goblin/Death Drone-thing both more 'Goblin-y' and more 'Steampunk-y'. )

So nuclear reactors work just as fine as long as steampowered?
Except, of course, Thorium-based ones. Let's just talk about nuclear-powered steam stuffs.

 

[MiniMage]

Well, to be fair, a nuclear reactor is essentially a steam turbine with a stronger thermal source.
I thought I was going to see more submarines because of this mindset of mine. XD

The biggest difficulty would be to make a nuclear reactor look victorian era though.

 

[Misha]

So nuclear reactors work just as fine as long as steampowered?
Except, of course, Thorium-based ones. Let's just talk about nuclear-powered steam stuffs.

nuclear? that's essentially Gnomish steampunk. a lot of radiation, buzzing coils and steam to have Like Gnomeregan

 

[grunt]

my second wip not realy satisfied with the result

 

[Mechanical Man]

hehe, with sorcereress pose and stature looks ... gay, or like ... Conchita wurst

 

[MiniMage]

I have to agree with you there. It's the female body that does it. He really does look gay. XD
I would suggest broadening the waist and enlarging arms and legs somewhat. Also, the chest area needs to be pushed in. Men does not have boobs.

 

[grunt]

I got it XD !! I was sure that there was something strange about it but now I realise
thanks guys !! I'll change that !!

 

[Deolrin]

That gentleman has a very waspish waist.

 

[Heinvers]

hehe, with sorcereress pose and stature looks ... gay, or like ... Conchita wurst

indeed.

 

[kellym0]

''On that note, I understand you keeping them small for the sake of realism...''

like I Said, the hands and blade needed to stay small so they can slurp inside their arms hatches so the arms can be inside him during burrow. but ok I get most of you're point.

il work on making the drone feel less star wars ish and more bioshock ish

 

[Edge45]

Since I can't use the Helix
I'll go with this, the thing I've been working for yesterday
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MAX Tanki = Mark Avenger X Tanki

 

[Freddyk]

like I Said, the hands and blade needed to stay small so they can slurp inside their arms hatches so the arms can be inside him during burrow. but ok I get most of you're point.

You could combine both by animating the scale of the bone (weapons smaller to get inside, bigger when out to be more visible/warcrafty)

 

[Chen]

Wip Here, Wip There...

WIP

 

[Kyrbi0]

You could combine both by animating the scale of the bone (weapons smaller to get inside, bigger when out to be more visible/warcrafty)

Hey, now that's an excellent idea; decent compromise.

Wip Here, Wip There...

WIP

Y'know, I really like the proportions on that thing. Just nice and zany.

 

[Chen]

Thanky Panky but It's a bit messy.

 

[Kazeon]

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that's pretty much it for the mesh. might add some few little stuffs here and there. gonna start rigging and animating now.

win.

EDIT:
eh, just to remind you still haven't judges

 

[Heinvers]

Awesome piece -Grendel.

 

[Isgeir]

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that's pretty much it for the mesh. might add some few little stuffs here and there. gonna start rigging and animating now.

This, ladies and gents, just won IMHO.

 

[MiniMage]

No need to go assuming winners. We still got two more weeks until the contest ends. ;D

 

[Pvt.Toma]

 

[MiniMage]

It is getting better, lovely. ;D

 

[HappyCockroach]

hey look, another modelling contest is up! _{(and the last one's results seem to be pending :v)}

i might put something together for this


edit: silly me, the thread was up and i missed it

 

[MiniMage]

hey look, another modelling contest is up! _{(and the last one's results seem to be pending :v)}

i might put something together for this

Wonderful, the more the merrier. Actually the previous contest reached a conclusion, rep and badges and all has been given, so that is a hundred percent complete. ;P

 

[Kyrbi0]

\ Actually the previous contest reached a conclusion, rep and badges and all has been given, so that is a hundred percent complete. ;P

Yes. Kyrbi0 is lends his greatest apologies, masters. :<

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HappyCockroach! Definitely merrier with you. Now all we need is Tarrasque jigrael, Callahan, Misha, aaaaaand a few others.

 

[MiniMage]

Yes. Kyrbi0 is lends his greatest apologies, masters. :<

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HappyCockroach! Definitely merrier with you. Now all we need is Tarrasque jigrael, Callahan, Misha, aaaaaand a few others.

I'm pretty sure that Misha will end up as one of the judges. So he can't enter the contest.
I actually should find me two other viable candidates to be judges tho. ;I

 

[Misha]

uu.. I'm starting to like this bulky round mech

I'm pretty sure that Misha will end up as one of the judges. So he can't enter the contest.
I actually should find me two other viable candidates to be judges tho. ;I

this makes me wonder, why haven't you put me as one yet?

 

[Chen]

Time for some WIP!!!

WIP

 

[icewolf055]

K my 3rd WIP :

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And this thing should be breathing smoke too

 

[Kyrbi0]

K my 3rd WIP :

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And this thing should be breathing smoke too

I'm confused... But in a good way.

What's with the "Lorda-Horde-eron" flag(s)?

FOR (THE) HORD-AERON!

 

[icewolf055]

Hm.. bout the flags, i was about to give him an orc flag (like the one that Blademaster uses) but i want that the users can use this model in any races they want so a random flag would do so i chose that texture, then i realized there're 2 flag-textures in there, so yeah, why didnt i make 2 flags for him, and boom. Thats what happened in my mind lol.

 

[Misha]

maybe the flags are more for the whole water/fire symbolism (red/blue) thus the end product being.. steam

or maybe random, but heck, imagining reasons is fun

 

[-Grendel]

@icewolf055 - man that's so sexy. diggin' those gears.

anyways, about my entry, animations and rigging are done. only need to do some sfx and sounds.
anyone here who knows how to make .gif's in model editor? i kinda want to post some of the animations.

 

[icewolf055]

@Misha, yeah maybe we can think that way lol

@Grendel-, thanks
About the gif, i used to use Fraps to record the animation from MagosModelEditor then use Photoshop to convert the video into gif, maybe you should try

 

[Callahan]

Grendel you can use LICEcap to record gif on War3 Model editor.
This is an example :

 

[HappyCockroach]

i use GifCam, it is free and simple, and the result is quite nice..

like here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/165527-albums1520-picture76244.gif

 

[-Grendel]

Finished entry.

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spent over a week making his death sfx. i normally don't tinker too much with effects.

5M45H1NG!

View attachment Moltenstein.mdx

 

[Misha]

hm.. was it intended for his axe to bounce on the ground a bit when he attacks with it? oO

and i kinda expected a lill bit more steam but don't mind me

 

[Blood Raven]

First WiP

Everyone has to start somewhere, right?
Still thinking of doing a portable cogwheel ballista turret...

EDIT: A quick question: may we attach a missile to our submission?

 

[Misha]

BR, i cannot see your picture oO

 

[Blood Raven]

BR, i cannot see your picture oO

Shit :S
Can you now?

Meanwhile, second WiP

2nd WiP

 

[Misha]

yeah i can the cog is lookin' cool
wonderin' what steam contraption are you gonna strap on it

EDIT: hmm.. nice furnace or something? lol

 

[Blood Raven]

WiP 3

Also, for anyone wondering what the hell i am doing, here are my blueprints

 

[Freddyk]

Final

Here it is, the Goblin Hovercraft!

Not very polished, but unfortunately i will not have the time to work further on it before the deadline. It works though, so i guess it will be my final entry for the contest. Maybe i'll try to improve it a bit afterwards, before submitting it as a resource.

With the current anims it's a naval unit only. I tried amphibian, but i have a problem with shallow water: the unit sits on the ground (below water level) instead of floating. Does anyone know if it's possible to fix that?

 

[Heinvers]

WiP 3

Also, for anyone wondering what the hell i am doing, here are my blueprints

That's interesting

 

[MiniMage]

WiP 3

Also, for anyone wondering what the hell i am doing, here are my blueprints

This looks interesting. ;D

 

[Blood Raven]

WiP 4

@ Freddyk, that looks awesome! You really managed to capture the feeling of goblin engineering! Also i love that seat the gunner has, wish i owned one too

 

[Misha]

heheh, people are really making great stuff right now

Freddyk@ Hmm.. did you try replacing a say, naga myrmidon's model with this one? maybe it works? then you can check out the settings