Modeling Competition #5 - Neutral Structure

[Rao Dao Zao]

http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft would be faster and generally better.

 

[Xatoga]

Cathedral is too hipoly and smooth.

Polycount != Quality/Detail
Polycount == Smoothness

The cathedral's fine, its only about 2000, heck, most units are around that. I'm not usually one to defend the Church, but it looks good

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

Most units are around...

Pardon?

We are still talking about Warcraft III, right?

 

[Xatoga]

Okay, so most are around 1000, even so, most buildings, which is more relevant are 2000 is or more. I know, some have semi-complex builds, but its not like a few hundred more is a problem here. Wc3 was released long ago, when the world was young. Many moons have passed since its birth. And compooters are better now.

 

[hellblazer-14]

i agree with that.. who cares how many polies the cathedral has??? The Main thing is that it looks good. I'll vote for the cathedral to win.

 

[Xatoga]

i agree with that.. who cares how many polies the cathedral has??? The Main thing is that it looks good. I'll vote for the cathedral to win.

No no. You're missing the point. Vote for me

 

[Massive_attack]

Xatoga, are you going to finish the Apartment building WIP you had here before?

 

[hellblazer-14]

lol xatoga....

i'll vote for the best model. So far the cathedral looks the best... but yours may still be heaps better... anyways... good luck to the best modeller.

 

[Just_Spectating]

Time for me to update with some In-game Pics.

 

[hellblazer-14]

very nice models!!!

Just one criticism.... the double arch in the last screenshot looks wacked... the top section looks weird (where the arches meet)....

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

i agree with that.. who cares how many polies the cathedral has??? The Main thing is that it looks good. I'll vote for the cathedral to win.

You will care when the game dies from being over-stretched and unable to cope with the graphics. There is a tangible limit to how many triangles you're allowed on screen at once, you know.

 

[HappyTauren]

Most units have around 500 polies (some have less and some more)

Those that have 200, display only half at the moment because of geo animations. ALSO! That cathedral could have been done with SO FEW polies.

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

Not to mention items of such 'smoothness' look rather out-of-place in the general Warcraft environment.

 

[Just_Spectating]

Update 2 new fixed gazibo

 

[Massive_attack]

Its not like were going to see 50 cathedrals all on the screen at once.

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

Considering some of the 'terrains' people try to foist on us these days, I wouldn't be surprised...

 

[Massive_attack]

Well thats theyre problem then.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Update 2 new fixed gazibo

The stairs look like they have some bad UV problems...

 

[Just_Spectating]

oh no, ingame it looks fine, the viewer makes it look all goofy

 

[Xatoga]

Yeah the normal sunken ruins stairs do that too, dunno why. Also: Which apartment building?

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

Those aren't UV problems anyway, they're Z-order issues.

Moral of the story: WC3's graphics engine is borked.

 

[TDR]

eh this got extended. I might just enter, sounds like a very quick job. I think I'll make some nerubian stuff or however those giant spiders that live at the north pole are called.

 

[Pyritie]

Yeah, nerubians.

---

Also, when the heck are you going to upload those fruit models?!

 

[Katu]

Submission

Thanks for the extension!

However this encouraged me to begin works on more models that I can't finish

so... here is my final submission:

Half-elven Cathedral

The submission contains the cathedral of course, and a stone fence piece that can be seen on the ingame shots.



Ingame shot:



Some axonometrical wiews:



I mentioned some unfinished models. Here they are (they're of course not parts of my submission), a church and a weird basilica:

 

[Mechanical Man]

Nice terrain, Katu

 

[HappyTauren]

Katu, I know you are an architect, but this is WC3, and buildings (without build/death crap) should never have above 1000 triangles. You have used cylinders with 14 slices, where should be either 8 or 6, and the roofs are too smooth. Also, these towers have too smooth ending (You should have used plane instead of sphere/cylinder with 14 segments. All in all, that model has around 2500 triangles (2476 to be precise). You could, though use OPTIMIZE modifier if you use max/gmax, it would halve polycount much, and make it less smooth, thus being more usable for wc3. Also, fence has 180 triangles and detail is barely visiable ingame. If someone wants to make a wall, for first 10, it will take 1800. If someone wants to make a huge wall, he is probably going to kill the game. Fences should not have more than 100 triangles, and ones I make never exceed 50.

 

[hellblazer-14]

Yeah Katu awesome model but i have to agree now.. . the game glitches with the cathedral in it and the skin needs to be a little better (the cathedral is big, so if u use it in game it won't look very good)...

Good job anyway

 

[Deleted member 126647]

7th of September, no exceptions.

That means two days left, ladies and gents.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

It's the final countdownnnnnnnnn...

Sweet stuff you got there Katu. Also I am looking forward to seing what TDR comes up with this time. If he'll finish in time that is.

 

[Pyritie]

I hope he remembers that there has to be at least one WIP...

 

[Xatoga]

dammit dammit dammit dammit! I'm grounded from my comp now and my models still bug the game for no reason I can tell. Can someone please DL the ones I posted and see if its just an issue with the computer I'm using because I'm taking the file from another computer, since the one I use for modeling doesnt have Wc3 on it.

 

[TDR]

I'm not making anything spectacular so I'll try to compensate by numbers. The unwrap is ready for this one, I just have to find the right bloody textures.
Sorry for the overpaint, I got a little carried away.

 

[Just_Spectating]

omfg, just great... my computer broke (with the models on it, im on my laptop right now) and now i bet i cant even submit them =_=... noo...

 

[Kuhneghetz]

@TDR: Maybe use textures from the unused ancient ziggurat model (found in Northrend doodads in war3.mpq) and add some spiderwebs on the building using NorthrendNatural03.blp from the Textures folder.

Just a suggestion. I think the model would be cool with those texture.

 

[TDR]

aye, I know that texture. I extracted all northerndy-undeady stuff and I'll play with them.

 

[Katu]

@ Happy Tauren:

Hm, I use 12 sided cylindes for most of the time. The roofs are from 3 pieces (this means a quarter-12sided cylinder). I'll try to use 8-sided cylinders mostly, for example, at this moment I would do the roof with quarter-8sided cylindes (2 rectangles). So, of course, it can be polished. Million thanks for the suggestions, this is the best way to improve me. There are many unfinished models in my gmax/scenes folder and they show how I developed my stlye from model to model. So, on the next buinding/unorganic model competition, I'll participate with a much better one.

@Mechanical Man: Thanks. Anyway, that terrain was made in 1 minutes because I was in a hurry

@TDR: What's your opinion about my cathedral? Do you think that is reaches your level? (I'm looking forward to the thay when I can pwn you.)

 

[Just_Spectating]

Finished~~!! Enjoy using these models

 

[Kuhneghetz]

7th of September, no exceptions.

Deadline is today, people! Hurry up! O_O

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

At 0:00, though.

That's still a good nine hours.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Remember in game shots people.

 

[Katu]

I suppose I have one. Does anyone see an error in my submission? I don't want to be disqualified (though I don't see any errors) just because I forgot, for example, to set the portraits. (they are set anyway)

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

The "Daedria" Pack

The main submission is D_Cube, which includes only stand and portrait sequences.

The other models are un-animated dooadads; mostly a selection of wall panels, plus the sighpost and the strange hut.

 

[Pyritie]

Looks nice RDZ, good to see you entered. But what about all of those pagoda-type things you made earlier?

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

What about them indeed?

I have the source files and will keep them until I have need of them, or until somebody asks in a sufficiently polite manner that I finish them.

 

[HappyTauren]

Final Sumbisson.

Prison Alliance. This is a prison where you send your units, and get money in return (idea from ladies night, rdz's footie ^^)

 

[Cavman]

Um, RDZ...... your entry is password encypted. :s

 

[Just_Spectating]

GMT is so confusing is ther still some time?

 

[Massive_attack]

wow. lots got in this time.

*Vader*: Impressive, most impressive.

 

[Dionesiist]

Um, RDZ...... your entry is password encypted. :s

I'd say that was his plan -_-#

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Closed. Poll will come in due time.