Exodus of the Horde: TD Edition

[shadowhog]

tooltip for spirit wolfs is wrong
level 1 has 36hp, level 2 56hp, level 3 96hp. Tooltip says 50hp, 80hp, 120hp
level 1 idk its damage didnt check level 2 does 13-15, lvl 3 19-21. Tooltip for level 2 says 16-17, lvl 3 21-22

Barracks maybe should be set to auto cast by default I left a few off by mistake a couple of times
Barracks may need a slight range increase because on few chokepoints areas the barracks will never spawn grunts on level 2 or move the circles slightly closer to the path
Barracks + bestiary should change tower stats to show hp/armor instead of attack speed

I do like how we have tower choices before the map starts and how most tier 4s have a model change as well
As with your other TD map it was fun playing the base game maps with a different style of gameplay. Hope you do the rest of them

 

[The Nightmare Book]

tooltip for spirit wolfs is wrong
level 1 has 36hp, level 2 56hp, level 3 96hp. Tooltip says 50hp, 80hp, 120hp
level 1 idk its damage didnt check level 2 does 13-15, lvl 3 19-21. Tooltip for level 2 says 16-17, lvl 3 21-22

Barracks maybe should be set to auto cast by default I left a few off by mistake a couple of times
Barracks may need a slight range increase because on few chokepoints areas the barracks will never spawn grunts on level 2 or move the circles slightly closer to the path
Barracks + bestiary should change tower stats to show hp/armor instead of attack speed

I do like how we have tower choices before the map starts and how most tier 4s have a model change as well
As with your other TD map it was fun playing the base game maps with a different style of gameplay. Hope you do the rest of them

Thanks for suggestions and bugreport - I'll fix them!

• I don't know why tooltip says wrong things, but I'll correct them and maybe slightly alter spell descriptions;
• Currently I don't know how to properly make their spawning spells auto-castable (but darkspear tribe barrack on lvl 3 and final lvl have auto-cast by default), but I'll try to do something with it;
• About tower descriptions - on last momment I wanted to change it, but for some reason didn't. Thank you for your advice

I hope that you liked campaign - in future I want to release additional chapters for it, not connected to main orc campaign. Just like in "Kingdom Rush", where you can unlock smaller yet harder additional stories after beating main game.
Thank you again!

UPD: About wolf hp, I re-checked and yes - tooltip is correct. Maybe you've played on "Hard" difficulty, because it lowers health handicap for player units.
For another suggestions/problems - already fixed, will soon post a small fix version.

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Just checked out - campaign is playable on Reforged! Use Xetanth87's Campaign Splitter to split campaign and play it on latest Warcraft version.
No matter what graphics you would choose, but for myself I prefer Classic Graphics.
Enjoy!

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Slightly updated campaign, fixing noticed by shadowhog and others issues. Also some balance changes.
Next big update will add more levels to play, but I don't think that I'll release it somehow soon.

Thanks for playing, anyone

 

[deepstrasz]

1. The tutorial map is a missed opportunity that could have been a tower defense one or something to actually enjoy.
2. Moved several times over the last circle for the map to complete.
3. Chapter one is too short. You could have been more creative with waves.
4. In chapter two, some units might remain on their path or move back and forth on a short distance.
5. In the third chapter, the game automatically selects two circles at a time in the beginning making it a real issue to select anything. Had to spam a building hotkey to bypass. Same in chapter 4.
6. Bestiary's selection circle is not visible.
7. Thunderstrike says it stuns for 0 seconds.
8. Not sure if intended but Thrall had level 5 and only 4 levels of learned abilities instead of 5.
9. No bosses in the last chapter!? Meh.

It's a nice remake-edit but can be much more improved as the gameplay is pretty repetitive and choices aren't that meaningful.

Approved.

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[The Nightmare Book]

1. The tutorial map is a missed opportunity that could have been a tower defense one or something to actually enjoy.
2. Moved several times over the last circle for the map to complete.
3. Chapter one is too short. You could have been more creative with waves.
4. In chapter two, some units might remain on their path or move back and forth on a short distance.
5. In the third chapter, the game automatically selects two circles at a time in the beginning making it a real issue to select anything. Had to spam a building hotkey to bypass. Same in chapter 4.
6. Bestiary's selection circle is not visible.
7. Thunderstrike says it stuns for 0 seconds.
8. Not sure if intended but Thrall had level 5 and only 4 levels of learned abilities instead of 5.
9. No bosses in the last chapter!? Meh.

It's a nice remake-edit but can be much more improved as the gameplay is pretty repetitive and choices aren't that meaningful.

Approved.

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Thanks for review and I hope that you've enjoyed!

• To be honest, I don't really think that tutorial needs an revamp - it's tutorial for whole WC3 and in campaign you can start from next mission immediately, but I agree with you;
• As I remember, I don't changed tutorial alot from original, but Thrall can just run forward to Medivh without any issues - I'll look onto that;
• I agree, but for first - you played on which difficulty? Playing on "Hard" will add into human levels additional enemies and boost courage mechanic, which doesn't active on "Easy" or "Normal". But it's the first level and it shouldn't be hard;
• It's issue that I've encountered in my "Scourge of Lordaeron TD Edition" campaign - in future I'll try to correct it;
• This is strange… I'll correct that;
• What you mean "non-visible selection circle"? You mean that you can't select building?
• Small tooltip issue, will correct that in future;
• I don't remember that I was tried to make that intended, but player is able to learn most of his spells at least for lvl 1-2;
• Yep, no bosses. I don't think that level needs active Zarjira, but on the other hand - I agree with you, in current state level is "lame".

About repetitive gameplay - I was tried to re-create "Kingdom Rush"-like TD in WC3, which is repetitive selecting best build and building for 5-10 mintues while watching how towers kills walking enemies.
About choices - what you mean "meaningful"? If you mean achievements - yes, they aren't unlocking new upgrades for towers, only giving attributes for Thrall and gold.

Anyway, thank you for your review! Sooner or later I'll update campaign with addining new chapters to play and correct main campaign.

 

[deepstrasz]

To be honest, I don't really think that tutorial needs an revamp - it's tutorial for whole WC3 and in campaign you can start from next mission immediately, but I agree with you;

True, however, it's off-topic in the sense that the tutorial doesn't help you learn how to play the TD version really, just gives some information that isn't quite useful in the long run.

What you mean "non-visible selection circle"? You mean that you can't select building?

It's too small I guess that you can't see; might be hidden under/behind the model.

About choices - what you mean "meaningful"?

The differences between some buildings is not that big unless you compare their last level (IV).

I forgot to upload the picture with the units stopping moving properly:

 

[The Nightmare Book]

True, however, it's off-topic in the sense that the tutorial doesn't help you learn how to play the TD version really, just gives some information that isn't quite useful in the long run.

It's too small I guess that you can't see; might be hidden under/behind the model.

The differences between some buildings is not that big unless you compare their last level (IV).

I forgot to upload the picture with the units stopping moving properly:
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• Oh, I understand! Maybe some day I'll overcome myself and remaster it properly, but not in coming future;
• Okay, understood! I'll re-check and try to correct that issue in next content version;
• About differencies - that's kind like in "Kingdom Rush", where you can't really find big differencies betwheen Dark Knight barrack & Orc Warrior before last tower tier, when they fully utilize their strenghts. I'll try to do something with it;
• Oh, I understood... I'll correct that, thanks for clarifying…

 

[The Nightmare Book]

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