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I believe that when you die you sit there and rot.

Join the group of atheists that are too awesome for churches:
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I'm agnostic but believe in the basic concept of a soul/spirit, though don't classify them different between different beings, or static to a single world. Taking from that, I subscribe to the belief in life after life because it appeals to my sense of fairness, rather than a permanent afterlife after a single go. Being agnostic though, that's just what i'd prefer- I know nothing. I fear dying before completing my goals more than dying itself. Death is more of a release for some, by far.
 
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Who gives a shit what happens afterwards. Someway, somehow, the particles of the universe managed to combine in such a way that spawned life, and from that life and billions of years of evolution, you've come into existence. Isn't that fucking awesome?

Enjoy it while it lasts, fellas.
 
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Thanks, but if some one were to point a gun in your face, I bet you would shit yourself.
Doesn't mean I would spend my whole life worrying about it.

There's a difference between fearing death when the situation arises and spending your whole life in fear of death. I choose to do the former because the latter is already like dying.
90% of people don't have the balls to say they fear death.
And 85% of people like to pull numbers out of thin air.

I've met few people who haven't said they fear death.
 
Who gives a shit what happens afterwards. Someway, somehow, the particles of the universe managed to combine in such a way that spawned life, and from that life and billions of years of evolution, you've come into existence. Isn't that fucking awesome?

Enjoy it while it lasts, fellas.

Seems to me you were acting a bit cocky there. But hey, maybe I'm the only one who dislikes comments which seem as if the commenter was acting outspoken and douche-baggy.
 
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if my life ends i just hope i achieved something and the most important
saying goodbye to the love ones especialy my families and my fiancee..

i am catholic

and if if if only we do reincarnate i hope i dont reincarnate as a bug or something LOL


and btw i dont want a nasty death or violent..pain etc..

of course every body fear death if someone said they dont fear death..

ill point a shotgun to your belly and u say u wont shit in your pants?
 
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those dude who are not afraid of death why not kill yourself now...nothing to lose right

if your not afraid of death..

no excuses..
 
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One death is a tragedy, millions are statistics.

That's a philosophical quote, not a personal opinion. This topic is about a personal view on death towards one's self, not the death of others. You yourself can only die once, after all. Unless you're drowned and revived by resuscitation, but it's not quite the same thing.
 

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those dude who are not afraid of death why not kill yourself now...nothing to lose right

if your not afraid of death..

no excuses..
Not only fear governs which actions you take and which actions you don't.
So 'yes excuses'

You yourself can only die once, after all.
I'm willing to bet Sean Connery would beg to differ :p
 
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Well there was 2 many situations that proven fact that is desire for life maybe the greatest force in living being, who knows >.>

Now when I think about it... Hmmm...
My professor used to say:
"Babies come to this word crying, still people that die from old age or some disease usually smile in some way"

So I ask you: What that means, are we here on some test or what, that's really question for thinking...

Just so many things that can really fu your mind ^^
 
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what about the people who are afraid not of death, but how it will come to them? Thought about them?

It is obvious that people really don't fear death itself. But how it will come, what are it's effects. Death is the best peace you'll get. But you don't want what will happen to get that said peace.

People who said that they don't fear death. They are right. Life is a piece of crap that you may choose to hate or enjoy. Most chose to hate which I didnt. So, yeah. Most don't fear death.
 
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Crayons, most people in the world fear death.
Others do not fear the peacefulness, but fear dying regardless because they want to complete something before they die, or in many many cases religious equivelants of goin to hell because they haven't redeemed themselves- they still fear death. Most people fear death out of the unknown, but fact is, you're still scared of dying, of death.

Just because your life isn't great doesn't mean you necessarily want to die- many people just want it to be better, though some may commit suicide when they see it getting better being impossible.
Almost everyone is scared of death until the end, usually only those who are content with their lives and have done enough to say they can kick the bucket would generally await death rather than fear it.

For example, I may await the release it brings me but that doesn't mean I'm ready to die yet. Few people can say they do not fear death in it's entirety- no one's ever been back to tell us what it's like, after all.
 
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agree

i have to agree with ghost above...
death sucks... hell i'm scared... i have managed more in my 18 years than many i know, but i am still afraid...
i am a bit of a scienec guy, and i can tell you that death is actually nothing more than a disease... your body degrades itself, and the DNA helixes in your cells become "fringed (like a shoelace) " and your cells do not possess the exact coding information that is needed to rebild itself eternally... scientists are now working on a way to drug the cell, into regenerating and realigning the double DNA helix.... this process of degrading is exactly like the process a cell undergoes when damaged by a virus or predominant DNA damage...
so, i am gladly waiting for these briliant people to discover a drug that restore the DNA structure, so that i can live maybe up to 200 or 300...
or i just wait for stemcell research to become available for all ^^
:thumbs_up:
 
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To the post above me, the process you are referring to is the process of death through aging, and aging itself. You die when you're shot in the head, when your balls are ripped off, when a knife is driven through your heart.

Life=/=Age, though through aging our body eventually shuts down. But what causes the initial and continuous spark, the thing that gets extinguised when the body suffers extreme damage or something else?

Death in a once living being is the lack of life, not a disease. A disease is a micro-organism that infects you or whatnot, leeches off you as the host, and if the host is weak enough or not helped they are killed. Those micro-organisms are also living things, if alot simpler.
 
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to mr element

sorry element... the matter is this... your cell's DNA strings(as i said) "fringe" at the end.... this means that the DNA becomes less potential and doesn't work as good anymore... the matter is that, this is exactly the same effect as a desease... and if you want to be exact to terms.... there is a massive difference between a virus and a desease... and btw a virus ALSO effects the DNA structure, simply by also changing the genetic code of a specific cell to replenish itself....
its called google...
http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2010/07/15/128536658/is-death-a-disease-that-can-be-cured
 
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You completely avoided the point.

That's still aging you fool. And if anything it's our body killing itself, not an external disease.
Fact is, if you get shot in the head whether your cells are regenerating or not, without a functioning brain the body dies. Like everything, living or inanimate, we degrade over time. You could make machines to repair as we do, like we fix stuff IRL, but dead is dead. You can't breathe life into something that lacks it, at least by any means we know of.

And as the person wrapped up the end of the article, I agree with-

"I think of my finite life cycle as a gift, or at least a gift by comparison with the dreary notion of endless existence. Its finiteness allows me to do my thing, make my mistakes, achieve my successes, love and nurture my family and community, run my course like every other critter, and then move out of the way."
 
Fact is, if you get shot in the head whether your cells are regenerating or not, without a functioning brain the body dies.

that's a point....
I have to backup my awesome brain somewhere
anyone has a few exabyte of memory left on his harddrive?
and a few petabyte of computation power to think with my harddrive brain would be nice, too :thumbs_up:
 

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that's a point....
I have to backup my awesome brain somewhere
anyone has a few exabyte of memory left on his harddrive?
and a few petabyte of computation power to think with my harddrive brain would be nice, too :thumbs_up:

This reminds me of Voldemort having those horkrucs or whatever they are called to live with "7 lives, 7 objects with lives". It would be cool to have it :p
 

First of all, the human brain doesnt store information like computers (8-bit)
It stores only small pieces of information it uses as references to create more information, but that information is not stored, but it is manipulated in what you can call the brain's random access memory.

For example, the alphabet:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

How do we know them? How does our brain keep them?
The truth is: It doesn't
The brain only stores extremely simple information and simple "commands/processes" (the term is incorrect, but since no scientist has coined it yet, i cant state it :p)

The thing with words is similar.

Let's say your brain's "storage" has many "levels":
I will explain how your brain can also "store" an outstanding amount of information using a special kind of compression and an extremely complicated algorithm.

  • Minor R.A.M (Things someone just told you for example)
  • Random Access Memory (What you just remembered)
  • Major R.A.M (What you barely studied for a test)
  • Memory (This level includes information that is integral and it is similar to the actual RAM on a computer but it is actually stored much much longer)
  • Storage (This is where the alphabet goes)
  • Processing Queque Minor (After figuring something out and trying to remember it again, this is the "processing" level)
  • Processing Queque (What you're trying to figure out)
  • Compiler (Compile raw data)
  • Major Compiler (This is the level of the brain that expands and translates raw data)
  • Referencer (You differenciate and compile everything according to this referencer. It allocates data)
  • Data (We cannot "understand" any of this since it is an algorith that can be decoded/compile by the Major Compiler, and recompiled closer to what we percieve when it reaches the memory)
  • Raw Data2 (Simplified data)
  • Raw Data (The simplest form of data)

Basicly, the "Raw Data" level refers to the neurons that can store multiple references to data with each connection.

Data like (1,0) in the brain for example can be compiled to create a certain image or video depending on the neuron, the connection, the region, the reference, and the allocated process information that corresponds to it.

1,0 ====> j3r034jf4c093ggjq04t493f93jfw9skcwneuwfefkwlf4 (It's an unknown analog so i'm inserting random characters)

j3r034jf4c093ggjq04t493f93jfw9skcwneuwfefkwlf4 ====> fn438hg89fn4oigoijlgfekn32ihflh3ih3li4hfoinciej84h8th58h3ifo34gh53hf4ilfn3ijf85hvlknrlkjgojlkrklgfjlgfiuch4lwe.hnfvnrueihglnvsd.joe89y5hj 5gnc4 5oc3hwoirfhq3;w5uto54un45h;jsf;;3poipj43pjt33b34gn5ogno.nfgldihh78ghie47hgildrhkgnlrgshrjeigjivnueoi5jenlvoijmigjtgjjryhtwneiejfoj4theetheneoifjoiho4hoirefmrjo5ih4glrnkl.g

And that data is further compiled with the compilers and processors until it ends up with a result that fits our Perception.

The brain can store data refering to a 9.3 trillion images and videos just by storing data like 1,0 in exactly (taking into consideration the word trillion)

This calculation is correct: 10 neurons

Why?
Each connection doesnt refer to one piece of information.
Networks are what compile information and put togethor the algorithms to output more and more data until it is fully compiled to fit our perception.

The amount of information (by quantity) that we can store is equal to this formula:

# neurons!/ Radical 2

That's 100,000,000,000! / Radical 2 (the exclamation mark is factorial)

If 70! = a number with 100 digits, imagine how huge the above number would be.
:goblin_jawdrop::goblin_wtf:
This formula refers to the number of possible neuron networks in the brain.
I divided it by radical 2 to make it look kewl :ogre_datass::ogre_datass:
The factorial part are used to find ALL cases ans possibilities when it comes to connection.

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Now that you have an insight on how much information the brain can actually store, i think you should correct the term "exabyte" with something like:

(100,000,000,000!^2 / Radical 2) Megabytes :)
 
First of all, the human brain doesnt store information like computers (8-bit)
It stores only small pieces of information it uses as references to create more information, but that information is not stored, but it is manipulated in what you can call the brain's random access memory.

For example, the alphabet:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

How do we know them? How does our brain keep them?
The truth is: It doesn't
The brain only stores extremely simple information and simple "commands/processes" (the term is incorrect, but since no scientist has coined it yet, i cant state it :p)

The thing with words is similar.

Let's say your brain's "storage" has many "levels":
I will explain how your brain can also "store" an outstanding amount of information using a special kind of compression and an extremely complicated algorithm.

  • Minor R.A.M (Things someone just told you for example)
  • Random Access Memory (What you just remembered)
  • Major R.A.M (What you barely studied for a test)
  • Memory (This level includes information that is integral and it is similar to the actual RAM on a computer but it is actually stored much much longer)
  • Storage (This is where the alphabet goes)
  • Processing Queque Minor (After figuring something out and trying to remember it again, this is the "processing" level)
  • Processing Queque (What you're trying to figure out)
  • Compiler (Compile raw data)
  • Major Compiler (This is the level of the brain that expands and translates raw data)
  • Referencer (You differenciate and compile everything according to this referencer. It allocates data)
  • Data (We cannot "understand" any of this since it is an algorith that can be decoded/compile by the Major Compiler, and recompiled closer to what we percieve when it reaches the memory)
  • Raw Data2 (Simplified data)
  • Raw Data (The simplest form of data)

Basicly, the "Raw Data" level refers to the neurons that can store multiple references to data with each connection.

Data like (1,0) in the brain for example can be compiled to create a certain image or video depending on the neuron, the connection, the region, the reference, and the allocated process information that corresponds to it.

1,0 ====> j3r034jf4c093ggjq04t493f93jfw9skcwneuwfefkwlf4 (It's an unknown analog so i'm inserting random characters)

j3r034jf4c093ggjq04t493f93jfw9skcwneuwfefkwlf4 ====> fn438hg89fn4oigoijlgfekn32ihflh3ih3li4hfoinciej84h8th58h3ifo34gh53hf4ilfn3ijf85hvlknrlkjgojlkrklgfjlgfiuch4lwe.hnfvnrueihglnvsd.joe89y5hj 5gnc4 5oc3hwoirfhq3;w5uto54un45h;jsf;;3poipj43pjt33b34gn5ogno.nfgldihh78ghie47hgildrhkgnlrgshrjeigjivnueoi5jenlvoijmigjtgjjryhtwneiejfoj4theetheneoifjoiho4hoirefmrjo5ih4glrnkl.g

And that data is further compiled with the compilers and processors until it ends up with a result that fits our Perception.

The brain can store data refering to a 9.3 trillion images and videos just by storing data like 1,0 in exactly (taking into consideration the word trillion)

This calculation is correct: 10 neurons

Why?
Each connection doesnt refer to one piece of information.
Networks are what compile information and put togethor the algorithms to output more and more data until it is fully compiled to fit our perception.

The amount of information (by quantity) that we can store is equal to this formula:

# neurons!/ Radical 2

That's 100,000,000,000! / Radical 2 (the exclamation mark is factorial)

If 70! = a number with 100 digits, imagine how huge the above number would be.
:goblin_jawdrop::goblin_wtf:
This formula refers to the number of possible neuron networks in the brain.
I divided it by radical 2 to make it look kewl :ogre_datass::ogre_datass:
The factorial part are used to find ALL cases ans possibilities when it comes to connection.

--------------
Now that you have an insight on how much information the brain can actually store, i think you should correct the term "exabyte" with something like:

(100,000,000,000!^2 / Radical 2) Megabytes :)

I'm 19 years old
so I live since
19*365 days
19*365*24 hours
19*365*24*60 minutes
19*365*24*60*60 seconds
= 599,184,000
and lets say since I am freaking awesome I can remember a small number every second (like 1 Byte)
I might have a storage of whichever size but there is a bottleneck somewhere which make things fit on a single CD
images will probably increase this number but it will still be a lot smaller
well....at least I am sure now that I will never run out of memory :grin:
 
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Death is a melodramatic epilogue to the pitiful cycle of our species. Death is integral to our species since our primordial days, and without death we may as well be people and human beings.
 
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