About the Contests

[MistAssass]

People, I am willing to host another mini contest. But I would like you to suggest some themes. So, if you have any, feel free to post them here.

Note that I will not become inactive like the last contest. The spells will be evaluated and judged properly when the contest ends.

why the hell are we discussing about new themes when the old contest was such a fail? i will definetely not participate in another one.

There were some problems ... OK ... but if you do not want to participate in another one your problem ...

 

[-Berz-]

the old contest was such a fail

Well it took a long time, but it's an internet mini contest, and some people care about it...

 

[Palaslayer]

i do not really care about it. but it sucks, because even in computer things you put work...

 

[raft_pl]

but it sucks, because even in computer things you put work...

Yes, you do put work in computer things, and imo that's the most enjoyable part of the contest - to create your spell ;|
But there are people for which the only thing to care about is being the winner.

@Themes
We could remake some old contests - using the old themes, but with a twist, etc. Just so that we wont rip off older entries.

So far I would vote for abilitizing a unit and remake of original spell. I know they are kinda boring, but they havent been in any previous contest anyway.
Also, diseases sound interesting.

 

[Eccho]

why the hell are we discussing about new themes when the old contest was such a fail? i will definetely not participate in another one.

i do not really care about it. but it sucks, because even in computer things you put work...

Likewise, it's not our problem. If you don't give a shit about it, then don't post such pointless comments in here.

Edit: By the way, did I have an option? Hanky had the results somewhere on his pc, and he have moved on and will not be active anymore at all. What do you think I should do? Review them again? I was not even the judge in the first place...
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Raft, yeah, I was thinking that we could take use of the "Double" theme (or what it was called). Combining two themes into one spells was popular last time it was ran.

 

[Palaslayer]

i have the msn address of hanky... why not just ask him?

 

[Eccho]

I have it too, which is why I am saying the true facts. If you want to speak with me about this further if you think you will get something out of it, don't do it here, please.

 

[Deuterium]

Umm well, yeah I think there should be a spell contest sometime soon, but let's wait till schools are over since not only me, but also other members here are having final exams these 2/3 weeks...

As for the theme, I don't have anything in mind, but let it be something creative... I think combination would be a good idea, but let's brainstorm a bit more.

 

[baassee]

You can count me in this time for sure. And also, set the contest time to a week or two for better performance!

 

[MistAssass]

sooo when will the S&S #19 be ? i am referring to the starting date ...

 

[Eccho]

It seems like people desire to have it two or three weeks from now on. If you aren't too eager, I will remember that time. Besides, we got more time to think of a good theme (or I'll just pick a random one

 

[Deuterium]

or I'll just pick a random one

I like the idea I don't know why but I feel like something watery/snowy... those two are very general and very creative in the same time (I've noticed Winter has been already done, but can't we re-do a theme?)
I can come up with ideas considering this theme just by opening the fridge

 

[Eccho]

Ofcourse can themes be redone. I that case, I guess we could make the "double" them as Winter as the first subtheme. Or just take only winter anyway

 

[Deuterium]

Haha, well we need to see the public's opinion on the theme and check if there's enough people who'd join.

I'm in for anything

 

[MistAssass]

Me too ... )
Count me in !

 

[Dr Super Good]

How about an automated system theme...
By this I mean automating areas of gameplay that are normally done manually.

2 Examples.
A target aquisition system for tower defenses which uses smart target selection for the most weak or oldest or youngest units, instead of just the closest.
Or an automated lumbermill which spawns 1-4 lumberjacks which automatically start gathering wood and are unselectable.

 

[Cr34p]

yeah Dr. Super has a great idea... such a theme would be extremly nice would love to create one^^

 

[Deuterium]

I personally prefer spells over systems, but might as well give it a try

 

[-Berz-]

Spells are funner, it's the point of this contest to have fun and improve your code by help of others.

spells > systems (my opinion)

But I'm in for any theme ^^

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I like DSG's idea.

 

[Live4evil]

where to we post our spells we want to submit?

 

[Deuterium]

Umm for contests or just for the sake of sharing it?

For contests check the Arena forum, for the sake of sharing check the Spells section...

 

[Yixx]

So when is a new one gonna start? Any time soon or not?

BTW: Why is it a Mini-contest, and not a big one like in the Arena? =S,, Scripting is as important as modeling or terraining,,

 

[Just_Spectating]

usually because they're only (Supposed to be) a week long

 

[Yixx]

But is there going to be any soon? Because i wanna make spells! =D

 

[-Berz-]

You are free to make spells and submit them in spell a section

But most likely the contest won't start any soon due to Hero conest running a.t.m....

 

[Zack1996]

The Hero contest is going rather well.
I just hope a new S&S Mini-Contest starts soon

 

[Just_Spectating]

so it looks like the hero contest is finished?

should we think of some themes?

 

[MistAssass]

hmmm ... yeah ... good point ... we should *think* >.<

Btw was there ever a theme like "chance" ... you know like making auras ?

 

[-Berz-]

Mist, sounds fun

Whatabout:

futuristic [e.g. sonic blasts, sonic nova, cargin mah lazah...]
Animation based [e.g. Blademasted/Demon hunter... have some nice animations, and do whatever out of it]

 

[Just_Spectating]

i suggested animation based before

Chance has been done



have we ever done like,

[leech] - The spell will retain health or mana upon hitting a unit
[dependent] - depending on the amount of damage received, or gained, an effect will occur
[buff] - places a buff on a unit that will have a triggered effect for a limited amount of occurrences

 

[Paladon]

Counter?

 

[Just_Spectating]

[Block] - creates a barricade of some sort to block the collision of units from walking. (like Earthshaker's Fissure from dota)

 

[-Berz-]

Block sounds fun too

 

[Eccho]

hmmm ... yeah ... good point ... we should *think* >.<

Btw was there ever a theme like "chance" ... you know like making auras ?

Not all auras have to be "chance". I think we have had chance before (like Just Spectacting said), as alot of the spells for the theme "surprise" when we had it, turned out to be chancebased

futuristic [e.g. sonic blasts, sonic nova, cargin mah lazah...]
Animation based [e.g. Blademasted/Demon hunter... have some nice animations, and do whatever out of it]

Futuristic might work too but I'd call it "Supernatural" rather.
The animation based suggestion is actually a nice idea, but probably with another name. And if it is what I think you meant it could be like:
Specific (or another name): Each contestant must create a spell suitable for a specific model given.

[leech] - The spell will retain health or mana upon hitting a unit
[dependent] - depending on the amount of damage received, or gained, an effect will occur
[buff] - places a buff on a unit that will have a triggered effect for a limited amount of occurrences

"Steal" is something we have had before. Im not saying we cant have those again ofc.
Dependant sounds like a "Combo" of some kind for me. Depending on the amount of points you've added, the spell will do different things or effects. I guess an example of this could be the Assassin spell in Diablo2: Phoenix Strike? http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/assassin-martialarts.shtml#phoenixstrike
Buff, well, would work I guess

Counter?

Works as well._.

[Block] - creates a barricade of some sort to block the collision of units from walking. (like Earthshaker's Fissure from dota)

By other words, some kind of a stun?

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My suggestion would come along with Berz Animation Specs one. But maybe making it a "double"? Not only should it fit he model, but a secondary theme is consistent as well. I could imagine all mentioned above...

 

[Just_Spectating]

it does not have to be a stun.

it can just prevent a path or just completely keep a unit immobile.
another example from dota could be furion's Sprout ability.

 

[Deuterium]

Ok just one thing, I think there should be a spell contest very soon. I mean, heroes' contest came during finals' month and many couldn't join.

So it would be only fair having one before summer is done so that everyone could join.

 

[Eccho]

You must be kidding me right? there were 32 submissions on the hero contest

 

[Deuterium]

Haha I didn't say "few were the people who didn't join" instead I said that many couldn't due to final exams. Maybe I should correct myself by replacing many with some.

EDIT:
Btw, 32 out of which half are almost simple object edits, so I didn't really count them

 

[Just_Spectating]

yeah, i didn't even find the hero contest till it got too late.

many of us (some of us) haven't participated in a long time.

 

[MistAssass]

*noob guy ._.* : what is a heroes contest ? ... excuse my noobness !

 

[Eccho]

d.d joke? The hero contest was to design a hero with 4 spells like a custom melee hero...



Anywho, before this contest would ever get started, Ill need to look through the rules of the contest. Somewhat since the spell rules are changing, these rules must change as well.

 

[Element of Water]

There's no point doing another contest until the new patch is released anyway is there?

 

[Deuterium]

Well, it won't be much of a difference except for amateur GUI'ers.
Good GUI'ers now how to index, and Jass would be simple to edit and update.

 

[Element of Water]

Well, it won't be much of a difference except for amateur GUI'ers.
Good GUI'ers now how to index, and Jass would be simple to edit and update.

If you go idle in the meantime, and a GUI user wants to use your spell?

 

[Deuterium]

He can still use it, old GUI still functions in 1.24.

 

[Element of Water]

No, I mean a Jass spell. If a GUI user wants to use your Jass spell and it uses H2I who will fix it?

 

[Deuterium]

I think they'd be using the native as GetHandleId, thus H2I, since it's a custom function, would still work (theoretically).

 

[Element of Water]

No - the code would cause "function redeclared" syntax errors.

 

[Deuterium]

Oh, well then we wait