WW2: World in Flames [REVISED]

[Fingolfin]

You would know that from looking at the screenshots, i assume.


And everyone, have a look at the website and check your inboxes!

 

[Vuormalainen]

Is there a way to contact you through easier means in The Hive without having to pm, then?

Not through Hive perhaps but our forums, which are our community related priority.

 

[WOWWARS]

Checking!

 

[Total_Warrior]

Oh man I am just to hyped for this. Can we please get some additional screenshots or a video?

 

[Vuormalainen]

Oh man I am just to hyped for this. Can we please get some additional screenshots or a video?

Soon to stream in from the upcoming closed beta tests

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Post Number 1337

That's great to hear, I'll also celebrate my 1337th post in this thread
Hope the game would be even better than expected!

Edit: Did a Screen Shot for memories.

PS: Finally!

 

[Nightblade]

Hows this going people?

 

[Miss_Foxy]

It's going fine, Fin'll update us on the progress real soon I suppose

 

[Vuormalainen]

It's going fine, Fin'll update us on the progress real soon I suppose

I have always wondered why I couldn't report on the progress for you...

 

[Miss_Foxy]

What do you mean?

PS: How did you get that emoticon?!

 

[Vuormalainen]

What do you mean?

PS: How did you get that emoticon?!

It's going fine, Fin'll update us on the progress real soon I suppose

"Fin" It's annoying to reply when you're asking someone else, even tho I could of helped you with your question.

I got it from google And I suggest you have a look on our forums Foxy

 

[Fingolfin]

Poor, poor, vuorma!

 

[Hugomath]

Lol, I'm not sure if I got that one. Btw, today, Januray 28th, it's meh birthday .

 

[Vuormalainen]

lol, i'm not sure if i got that one. Btw, today, januray 28th, it's meh birthday .

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatz

 

[Fingolfin]

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatz

this!

 

[Vuormalainen]

hello hi yo iam awake

get ån skype?

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Haha, will you be updating on the first post or just posting another one?

 

[Fingolfin]

What do you mean "post another one"?
What should i update the first post with, you reckon?

 

[Total_Warrior]

Will there be custom soundsets? If you want some soundsets and don't want to waste time getting voice actors or something I could get some great quality sounds from games for you.

 

[Vuormalainen]

Will there be custom soundsets? If you want some soundsets and don't want to waste time getting voice actors or something I could get some great quality sounds from games for you.

If we will have space enough in the final game perhaps. And perhaps one shouldnt steal from another

 

[Total_Warrior]

Well the makers of the game allow everyone to mod the game and use sounds. But do what you guys think is right since it's your project.

 

[Fingolfin]

And perhaps one shouldnt steal from another

That's just silly. No one expects you to get proper sound actors for a wc3 project. Besides, many other projects have used sound sets from Empire Earth and others while still being approved.

We will propably not have custom dialog (even though it would be totally cool), each sound file takes up about as much space as a model, and i'd rather put some other unit types in there before i start making custom dialogue. It would be really cool to have some nice WW2 tank driver sounds since the steam tank soundset is really lame. Apart from that though, we do have custom sounds for gunfire and cannons. I will add a custom sound for rifle fire too.

 

[Garfield1337]

Custom voices aren't worth it since each unit needs several sounds,it would increase the size too much imo.

 

[Vuormalainen]

That's just silly.

That's just not legal.

 

[Total_Warrior]

If you want to hear what they sound like I attached them. Just in case you have space and change your mind you can check them out. There are 14 .wav files but in total it does end up being pretty big.

 

[Fingolfin]

Jesus christ, how did you manage to make them so incredibly small? 14kb?! And with no quality loss?
When i record stereo sound with audacity, sounds that length oftenly go as large as 190kb!

What compressor did you use?

 

[Total_Warrior]

I used a mod program that you would open one of the archive files in the game directory. I extract a sound file that is in a format the game uses and change it to .wav. I then open the .wav in a program called "hex editor". I just press delete 12 times which deletes 12 characters of text. I think that is where it compresses it and makes it play in .wav format.

That or the sounds are already compressed somehow.

 

[Vuormalainen]

If you want to hear what they sound like I attached them. Just in case you have space and change your mind you can check them out. There are 14 .wav files but in total it does end up being pretty big.

We might use the attack and move sounds.
Just of curiosity, where are they from?

 

[Total_Warrior]

They're from the game Company of Heroes. Great game by the way.

 

[Fingolfin]

Funny how you said it, i just finished installing that game the moment i'm typing this!
Thought i could use some inspiration from how they designed their environment etc. Might come back to you asking for some sounds from it. Great job and +rep

 

[Total_Warrior]

Thank you. I'd be happy to help getting you some more. There are thousands of sounds that don't have proper names. But they do go under categories which is good. For me to find sounds I like I would have to go through every single file since mass extracting doesn't work. Mass renaming doesn't work either.

You have to copy, rename the extension, open in hex editor, delete characters, save, then finally listen if it's the right one. I'm currently testing and asking the creators of the programs if there's an easier way that requires less work.

As for the game, to me it is perfect and has no flaws. I guarantee that you will find some systems you can use in your project.

 

[Fingolfin]

Just played a few missions, and it was fun. Reminds me much about DoW, no wonder since it's the same creators

The sounds i can think of right now are mainly rifle sounds and tank cannon sounds, would be really cool to have some accurate sfx for this.

 

[Vuormalainen]

Just played a few missions, and it was fun. Reminds me much about DoW, no wonder since it's the same creators

The sounds i can think of right now are mainly rifle sounds and tank cannon sounds, would be really cool to have some accurate sfx for this.

5 posts to elite

 

[Total_Warrior]

I can get you any sounds you need. From mortars to artillery to mines to tank cannons to any SMG or rifle. As well as explosions and destruction sounds.(tanks blowing up etc)

Added a .rar sample with 2 tank cannon sounds. The rest are MP40 and Kar98 sounds. I just picked from random. There are plenty more. Editing the Mp40 loop files to your needs is a good idea depending on how long your infantry fire for. Most are 20-40KB so that's not all that bad.

 

[Hugomath]

If the sounds are lightweight as I can see in the posts (didn't downloaded any of them), we could use one for the infantry classes, if they actually look good. And we need for tanks too. Honestly, there's no good sound of a tank-fire on WC3.

 

[hugo802]

is this map finish?

 

[Vuormalainen]

We're probably gonna have one shot sound for mechanical and two for infantry - rifle and submachine gun.

is this map finish?

Another hugo
And no.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Hmm... Will soldiers get to switch between burst fire and auto? Like Footmen from Defend to Normal Stance?

 

[Vuormalainen]

Hmm... Will soldiers get to switch between burst fire and auto? Like Footmen from Defend to Normal Stance?

.................................
We answered such questions too many times, units can't be that deep when you control so many of them.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

To what extent can they be 'deep', then?

 

[Fingolfin]

Think of it as this:
What is the effect of burst fire vs aimed fire?
Quite simply, burst fire provides higher firing speed at the cost of lower accuracy and/or range. Since we don't use accuracy in our map, i'd say range is the only viable option.
The problem with this is that distances in this game are as short as they can possibly be without looking aesthetically unappealing.
Therefore, the distance in range between burst and aimed would be something like this:

to this:

And you have to agree that would be quite ridiculous.
Not to mention the fact that you have to press the ability button on all of your units to change stance whenever it fits, and besides, i don't think anyone would prefer aimed stance before burst simply because of how small the range difference would be (also considering that infantry are very fast).

 

[De.Facto]

I hope you don't start the beta without me before mid of february.. (;

 

[Fingolfin]

@de.facto: what do you mean?


Total warrior, there are a couple of more sounds from hte game i'd like you to export. First of all, i'd like to have the looping engine sound from when the tanks move. Also, i'd like some better tank cannon sounds (the one you sent was more like "BLAARFF") as well as the sound of a projectile hitting ground and armor.

 

[Total_Warrior]

Alright got them. Might want to turn your speakers down a bit for the explosions. There are 16 files in this one. I know this is pretty big in size but it's because there are different variations of tank cannons and the engines and explosions are pretty big. But I doubt you'll use most of them since you would only need a few. They all sound pretty good to me so it's hard to choose .

 

[WOWWARS]

nice job

 

[chris21]

This will prove to be one of the best maps in hive when its done...
Nice effort u have there i wish u luck with the map

 

[De.Facto]

@de.facto: what do you mean?

If you start the beta before we reach the mid of February, I couldn't participate.
I'm currently moving house. (;

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Hmm... Why does the mini map look so... Small though?

 

[DeadBoss]

The image is cropped -.-

 

[Fingolfin]

Hmm... Why does the mini map look so... Small though?

Fail comment is fail. -.-'