Warhammer: Eternal Strife (Melee)

[Herohatcher]

I downloaded the map and played it against 3 bots one time. The Bots actually play, they just do use the standard Warcraft races, but that is fairly better then nothing.
I like the many factions and the good use of skins and imported icons, its fun to discover the mechanics.
Also you used some really innovative ideas, like the healing-system of the imperial farms.

But now to some issues, i personally do not like the terrain.
It leaves every player with only one entrance to the middle and narrows the gameplay very much. A more open map (maybe with control-points or something to conquer?) would make the map more interesting and give impulse to play more often.

I give 3/5 and hope to see reworked text-layout and cooler terrain.

Edited my Rating to 5/5 for 3 new good-looking maps!

 

[Nightmare2077]

I downloaded the map and played it against 3 bots one time. The Bots actually play, they just do use the standard Warcraft races, but that is fairly better then nothing.
I like the many factions and the good use of skins and imported icons, its fun to discover the mechanics.
Also you used some really innovative ideas, like the healing-system of the imperial farms.

But now to some issues, i personally do not like the terrain.
It leaves every player with only one entrance to the middle and narrows the gameplay very much. A more open map (maybe with control-points or something to conquer?) would make the map more interesting and give impulse to play more often.

I give 3/5 and hope to see reworked text-layout and cooler terrain.

Thanks for the comment. Although that is no new information to me that one middle pass is unconventional or that bots do play as original races; I've addressed both those issues in map description (actually even saying that I plan to fix them both in the future). I must admit I feel sad that you would find it to be enough ground to give my map a 3 (wouldn't a 4 be more suitable?), but then who am I to tell you what to think
Thanks again for taking the time to playtest my map and write you thoughts, this is always much appreciated!

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Do you have any plans to implement trolls in the green skins race

 

[stein123]

No vampire Counts?

 

[Nightmare2077]

saruman, I would consider adding Trolls, but I've no suitable model.

stein, Vampire Counts are exactly the race I am doing at the moment. I plan to finish them in about 6 to 8 weeks. Also, the next update (~2 weeks, though I'm not 100% sure I want update so soon) will contain an alpha-version of Vampires.

 

[sarumanthecursed]

saruman, I would consider adding Trolls, but I've no suitable model.

stein, Vampire Counts are exactly the race I am doing at the moment. I plan to finish them in about 6 to 8 weeks. Also, the next update (~2 weeks, though I'm not 100% sure I want update so soon) will contain an alpha-version of Vampires.

not an exact replica but it is grey and big plus you've yet to use and abomination type unit (anim wise) plus I really miss the trolls

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/cavetroll-168203/?prev=search=troll&r=20&d=list&page=4

EDIT:

also for the dark elves dread spears ->
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...an-104603/?prev=search=dark%20elf&d=list&r=20

and the witch hags http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...4/?prev=search=dark%20elf&r=20&d=list&page=13 and http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...7/?prev=search=dark%20elf&r=20&d=list&page=11

 

[stein123]

Maybe this ones for Vampire Counts?:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/dreadlord-pre-beta-look-like-114133/

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/ghost-callahan-66404/?prev=search=ghost&d=list&r=20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ghtmare-125061/?prev=search=ghost&d=list&r=20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/zombie-wolf-blp-119285/?prev=search=wolf&d=list&r=20

And maybe this one for Warriors of Chaos :'3:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/barbarian-186138/?prev=search=barbarian&d=list&r=20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/demonhound1-blp-246240/?prev=search=wolf&d=list&r=20

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Dwarf rune masters rune of steel has text error it just goes to a bunch of random gibberish after awhile

 

[sarumanthecursed]

holly crap you've been bust > 4 awesome maps! supper happy about being able to do the terrain for the winter one god i'm so stoke right now !

 

[Herohatcher]

Hi Nightmare, like i said in my PM. The map is well styled and inventive.
I like my 2 plays through it

 

[r.ace613]

Cool

 

[sarumanthecursed]

under KEY FEATURES the 4 paragraph has miss spelt feel as fell

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Woohoo Yippy Ky yay! NEW VERSION !!!!!!!! > also are the 3 alternate terrains updated as well?

 

[Nightmare2077]

No, not yet. But you make a good point; I've included the update date for the pastebin entry.

 

[sarumanthecursed]

No, not yet. But you make a good point; I've included the update date for the pastebin entry.

btw the root text for the treemen has the same description for ancients thus it doesn't say that you get abilities when rooted and blah blah plus for the treemen's spirit protector ability the second is misspelled as secnd and by included the update for the pastebin entry what do you mean because I've just tried the tropics and its still the older version?

 

[Mapassou]

5/5 Honestly this is one of the best maps on here. I legit just made an account to tell you that!
I have noticed some general grammar/spelling mistakes, want me to pm them to you?

 

[Nightmare2077]

5/5 Honestly this is one of the best maps on here. I legit just made an account to tell you that!
I have noticed some general grammar/spelling mistakes, want me to pm them to you?

Thank you very much, I'm extremely glad to hear that! (I hope that raises no suspicions from the administration tho )

Absolutely - feel free to contact me over any of my screwups via pm or here or by any other means you find convenient! Writing tooltips is tedious, and I screw up with typos/grammar quite often, I know (noticing vengence<>vengeance in yesterday's released Wood Elf specialisation was especially embarrassing, lol)

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Dwarf Armor Rune Smith's third ability Rune of Steel still has screwed about tooltip with either display random numbers,letters and symbols or nothing at all.

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Hey ya might want to add the BOC sp's to the race mini guide description

 

[Nightmare2077]

I should; miniguide-writing is rather tedious unfortunately, so I procrastinate. I will add some info to it with the next update in ~March.

 

[sarumanthecursed]

I should; miniguide-writing is rather tedious unfortunately, so I procrastinate. I will add some info to it with the next update in ~March.

ooh march that's sooner than I expected > btw for BOC's Minotaur? Hero the [2] part for his second level "Stomp" ability has a superfluous space as such [ 2]

 

[sarumanthecursed]

Btw what does dot mean?

 

[Antking]

This is one of favorite maps on hiveworkshop. I have noticed a number of odd bugs with the additional maps(tropic,winter, and desert). To start, all the additional maps start you out with 100 food and huge amounts of gold and wood. (maybe some stuff leftover for debugging?) I also noticed that sometimes the computer player would be destroyed on spawn. I believe the game was applying high amounts of damage to gold mine areas, because the large Minotaures guarding the gold mines began with only 50 hp for some reason.

 

[Nightmare2077]

This is one of favorite maps on hiveworkshop. I have noticed a number of odd bugs with the additional maps(tropic,winter, and desert). To start, all the additional maps start you out with 100 food and huge amounts of gold and wood. (maybe some stuff leftover for debugging?) I also noticed that sometimes the computer player would be destroyed on spawn. I believe the game was applying high amounts of damage to gold mine areas, because the large Minotaures guarding the gold mines began with only 50 hp for some reason.

Thanks for the comment! Glad you liked the maps!
The bug with initial resources and the death of player 2 units is indeed me forgetting to turn off the trigger that adds all that – but only if Player_1 name is 'WorldEdit'. I will fix that bug once I update those 3 maps (within several weeks).

 

[sarumanthecursed]

what a pleasant surprise I got waking up to a finalized wels and update maps FUCKING YEAH! btw in the vam description it says "wigh king" when in English and warhammer its wight king

 

[cleavinghammer]

When training vampire heroes, unselected heroes disappear instead of being greyed out. Also, after researching purity of bloodlines I was stuck at two heroes.

I'm not really sure about the spend-money-to-get-mana-to-get-upgrades mechanic, wouldn't it be better to have the corpses generated automatically?

Vampires don't seem to have a lumber dropoff building.

Necrotic Wave heals non-undead units.

 

[Nightmare2077]

When training vampire heroes, unselected heroes disappear instead of being greyed out. Also, after researching purity of bloodlines I was stuck at two heroes.

The root of the problem is that the 'Hero' field in game constants has a limit of 52 lines. Therefore, I can't make conventional hero-limit for the new races I make (I already had this issue with WELs, and will have continue having it with each new race till the end). So I implemented a system which would perform the same job. This system has the downsides of unavailable heroes not displaying (instead of displaying grey), and that de- and re-selection of the altar is required in some cases (that is explicitly written in the Altars' tooltips).
However, up to now I was certain the system performs properly, as neither I nor anyone else have encountered any bugs with it; you have sown seed of doubt. Are you sure you had this bug, and it persisted through the game? Did you re-select the altar? ..There may indeed be problems, especially with Purity of Bloolines, I will investigate.

I'm not really sure about the spend-money-to-get-mana-to-get-upgrades mechanic, wouldn't it be better to have the corpses generated automatically?

I wanted to add a unique mechanic of corpse-gathering (by workers); for those situation where the player can't or doesn't want to do that, corpses are up for purchase. Makes sense to me!

Vampires don't seem to have a lumber dropoff building.

True; they have less fewer uses for lumber tho: two (not 4) base combat research and a Townhall that costs no lumber (you can think of it as a big lumbermill btw!)

Necrotic Wave heals non-undead units.

All spells (well alomost all) affect non-undead. I actually did have this debate with myself weather that should be the case or not. But in the end I thought it would be too big of a disadvantage for VAM to have all their spells not affecting non-vam allies. Provided they are in the same team, orcish spells affect humans, human spells affect skaven, skaven spells affect lizardmen etc. Why should undead be any different? In War3 for example, Death Knight's Unholy Aura will affect allied Paladins, even if that makes little sense, why should it be different in my adaptation?

Thanks for the feedback as always

 

[cleavinghammer]

Heroes: I was training my third when the bloodlines finished. Since the icon for the fourth didn't appear, I cancelled the third hero, and neither icon showed up.

While the map is still in development, maybe you could put a quest log with the known bugs and their fixes (speaking of which, the game almost froze as it was bringing up the quest log).

 

[Nightmare2077]

Thanks for clarification - that is precisely the instance when the system would malfunction. If you allowed the hero to be trained, everything would've been fine (thus the possibility of such bug didn't occur to me). I'll improve the system in future updates.

I don't know why the quest-tab opens for so long, I also noticed that. I should probably ask around to try and find causes, but frankly I've got far too much going on in both real life and my modding that I didn't want to dedicate time to something so trivial (as of now, quest tab barely holds any info).

As for posting known bugs, there are very few that I know of and that I don't plan to fix (now that I've said it, I don't think there are any such at all) - in any case they are too minor to be worthy of mention. Ideally, I shouldn't say that, but that again boils down to priorities. I'm much more concerned about my campaign, which I will indeed try to make as flawless as possible; but the progress on it is slow and the amount of work to be done is huge, so I can't afford to be bogged down in trivialities.

 

[sarumanthecursed]

hey what was the update?

 

[Nightmare2077]

I just updated the description formatting, Hive 2.0 considers this an update apparently. Watch for the changelog! Next update will be on 15.07 btw, the annual anniversary one

 

[sarumanthecursed]

I just updated the description formatting, Hive 2.0 considers this an update apparently. Watch for the changelog! Next update will be on 15.07 btw, the annual anniversary one

Looking Forward to it!

 

[Nightmare2077]

And so it has come, the annual July 15 update!

Wish I'd accomplished more, but I had a busy year. Thanks for all the feedback and stay tuned everyone!

 

[Nightmare2077]

Update! Please welcome the Ogre Kingdoms and the Von Karstein Bloodline!
The three additional maps will be updated once Ogres are polished, in approximately 2 months time.
I feel extremely happy not to worry about the dumb 8mb limit for the first time. Host and arrange WHES without unnecessary complications or resorts to the limited version!

(I must admit I feel a bit silly having to write this, but this is mainly done so that people don't confuse me updating the description and the map itself; Hive 2.0 bumps it either way.)

 

[Nightmare2077]

Update! Thanks for staying tuned! Today's changelog:

• Ogre Kingdoms officially released. The race has no specialisations yet (has one provisional research), but otherwise fully done. Many tweaks to OGR to bring them into good shape (two new items, Hunter now has a unique skillset, new unit - Rinox, many minor bugs and typos fixed).
• Vampire Counts have the second specialisation, Korchatov Bloodline. Several tweaks to the previous specialisation (fixed a bug with limit; Summon Thralls now also summons a Strigoi Thrall).
• Countless miscellaneous tweaks and fixes. Notably, several new models added (for Savage Orcs, DEL's Death Hag and Reaper).
• Updated the Additional Maps pastebin entry.

The next update will likely not come before the anniversary date (July 15th). But I've got some nice stuff for it planned, so stay tuned

 

[stein123]

Fantanstic news!!!

 

[Ardenaso]

This is awesome! I want to know how you did the global event researches though.

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

I am not credited in anyway.
Despite the fact that several of my orc models are used.

 

[Nightmare2077]

I am not credited in anyway.
Despite the fact that several of my orc models are used.

Sorry bro, I try to be as attentive as possible when updating, but sometimes things slip my mind Thanks a lot for pointing this out! (beside you I've forgotten to add Edge45 and manasou – people whose models I've introduced in the latest update)
I've fixed the description!

 

[Maxwell]

Nice to see your updates mate
Keep doing!

 

[sarumanthecursed]

I look forward to VAM's Path of Light and Harmony, never though they would go that way but, hey i guess there's good in every one.

 

[Nightmare2077]

I look forward to VAM's Path of Light and Harmony, never though they would go that way but, hey i guess there's good in every one.

Yeah, that's an experimental path in which Vampires renounce undeath, and by uniting with spirit of Isha and Lileath become goodie-goodies. Don't ask me what have I smoked to come up with that shit!

 

[stein123]

Yeah, that's an experimental path in which Vampires renounce undeath, and by uniting with spirit of Isha and Lileath become goodie-goodies. Don't ask me what have I smoked to come up with that shit!

I can see Vlad as the 12th elector count (after kickin out Mannfred's head) *-*

 

[Yourself]

You should really put cleavinghammer in your Special Thanks...

 

[Nightmare2077]

You should really put cleavinghammer in your Special Thanks...

cleavinghammer did give me a lot of useful feedback, and I made no attempts to hide my gratitude (I never do). However, adding cleavinghammer to Special Thanks would make him stand right next to sarumanthecursed – a guy who spent many dozens of hours beta-testing on his own as well as with me, found countless bugs/typos/inconsistencies and provided a ton of suggestions (useful or otherwise).

While feedback of all shapes and sizes is much appreciated, special thanks is not given lightly; this is to distinguish people with several good insights from those so committed they can be considered a part of the project!

 

[cleavinghammer]

^^ ... I appreciate the sentiment, but...

^ What he said.

 

[Houston]

I play it regularly. I have played with almost all specialisations. I can say it is qualitative map with high replayability.

Good job, I wait for more maps with different terrain.

 

[Nightmare2077]

I play it regularly. I have played with almost all specialisations. I can say it is qualitative map with high replayability.

Good job, I wait for more maps with different terrain.

Thanks a lot, glad to hear it!
I actually plan to add 1 or 2 maps with the next update.

 

[Nightmare2077]

Hello everyone! Please welcome my annual 15.07 update. It's been three years since I've first uploaded! Thanks for staying tuned

Today's changelog:

• Architectural reform: all races now have a unique architectural style! The usage of vanilla building models brought to a minimum. Go here for viewing. Enormous, titanic thanks to [B]Ujimasa Hojo![/B]
• Welcome the HD Loading screen! Thanks go to this resource by Softmints.
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• Vampire Counts have the third and fourth specialisations: Lahmia and Blood Dragon Bloodlines.
• Big changes to SKV, WOC and ORC, making them much more unique:

Skaven: The fraction's buildings are changed, the race is now much more reliant on Holes.
Warriors of Chaos: Maruders and workers now merged into a single unit - Tribesman.
Orcs and Goblins: a complex Animosity system implemented.​

• Countless miscellaneous tweaks and fixes. Notably, several new models added (aside for buildings, see above).

PS: (Sorry for the filesize increase)
PPS: Additional maps and campaign remain unupdated, unfortunately.

 

[Houston]

I found one bug, it is both in old and in new versions. Vampire's Carts sometime is disappiared. For example, sometime when unit "Corpse cart Unholy Lodestone" drops corpses to Graveyard, cart is disappiared. But disappiared cart still takes food.