[Campaign] Tales of the Scarlet Crusade

[Chaosy]

every spell for Darion is complete.

opinions?

 

[Go'el]

I don't understand why it jumps, it's kinda of weird.

 

[Chaosy]

I call the spell Rampage, got inspiration from Riven from LoL. So you think the concept is bad or do the jump look bad?

 

[Go'el]

Only the jump looks bad, maybe you could add an animation to the model that you are going to use, to fit it better.

 

[Chaosy]

tbh I think the jump itself looks ok, however I should make him jump closer to the original point.

 

[Heinvers]

tbh I think the jump itself looks ok, however I should make him jump closer to the original point.

I agree, otherwise it looks pretty good given the fact that you took inspiration from LoL.

 

[Chaosy]

A bit of sad news, I was intending to realse the public version today but ran into technical issue, chapter 3 crashes when started. Until that is fixed I can't upload. Sorry.

 

[Naiden]

The terrain is very nice done. Keep it up.

Meh, kicking some undead asses will be great

 

[JCarrill0]

A bit of sad news, I was intending to realse the public version today but ran into technical issue, chapter 3 crashes when started. Until that is fixed I can't upload. Sorry.

 

[Heinvers]

Aww, don't be sad. Now you can only blame Chaosy

 

[JCarrill0]

Aww, don't be sad. Now you can only blame Chaosy

I so been anticipating your project for some time.

 

[Heinvers]

Well, I've done my job so far, it's up to him now So hail his codding skills I guess

 

[Retria]

Aw, scarlet crusade is my favourite faction. Looking forward to relase. And sorry, I am not competent to bring any constructive criticism

 

[Heinvers]

No problem with that. Thanks for checking the thread

 

[Letgoit2]

Actually this have nothing to do with this campaign buut i need someones help or yours i cam to this site from an other project it was like rise of the lich king but hes in eastern plauglands maby you know that project , i remember you left a comment on the site : /

 

[Chaosy]

ehm, http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ng-80422/?prev=search=lich%20king&d=list&r=20 ? btw, post such off topic stuff at someones profile.

 

[Duke]

So how is it going with the demo? Still crashing?

 

[Chaosy]

No, the crash is fixed but by doing so I got a minor roll back. But that's not the reason for the delay anyway. I have been watching movies for more or less 4 days straight due sickness. (no need for comments on my sickness thank you very much) I am feeling OK right now so hopefully I can get back to work tomarrow. So the demo should be out this friday then.

Sorry for all the delays, but on the good side Heinvers has jumped into action on chapter 5 already so hopefully we got some screenshots to show from there soon enough.

 

[Naiden]

That's good news. I'm really excited to play this.

I'm happy that you are feeling good now.

 

[Heinvers]

Yeah, as Chaosy said, I'm currently working on chapter 5's terrain. I'll be sure to post some screenshots at the end of this week probably.

 

[Chaosy]

bah, there's still a few things I'd like to check out and/or fix but I wont since I have delayed it far too long. I would prefer one final test run but as mentioned I wont delay it more. I'll just pray and hope that there isn't any critical bugs/glitches.

known issues

list

-gold gained in side maps are not added to your old gold
-a lot of icons are missing a disabled version and are completely green sometimes
-a few triggers such as DDS doesn't exist in every chapter/sidemap
-the corpses in the mine sidemap are currently bugged.

before downloading I just want to advice you to save the game once in a while in chapter 2 to avoid rage quits

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=t2ks7g

 

[JCarrill0]

bah, there's still a few things I'd like to check out and/or fix but I wont since I have delayed it far too long. I would prefer one final test run but as mentioned I wont delay it more. I'll just pray and hope that there isn't any critical bugs/glitches.

before downloading I just want to advice you to save the game once in a while in chapter 2 to avoid rage quits

Question, After playing through the demo once, I have to ask, Are you making your own tale or basing it off the actual story, because as an avid Loremaster, especially with the Ashbringer legacy, I see a lot of issues just in the story itself. If it's your own take on it, then by all means keep it going, but if you need someone to make sure it sticks to cannon, let me know.

As for the gameplay, This "alpha" version needs lots of fixes as you already know so I will skip the details, but I wanted to share that I could not play chapter 2, they were all neutral units to me, so I had to skip to chapter 3. I was hoping for a better "Beta" version then what I have just played. The terrain by the way was awesome, but the unit data, the models/skins/sounds are all still in alpha stage.

I await for the completion of the game in that case. This was a very poor beta imo. this was more alpha for players to begin testing on.

Stages of development

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Alpha

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[Chaosy]

The chapter 2 should be unaffected by that, there's no goal with killing anything really. (or well at the last stage, but you can still complete the mission since you just gotta run past them to complete it.

for the story, yes it's BASED on real lore, not a copy of it.

 

[Vinz]

Other than the fire effects being a little over, everything is fucking amazing.

 

[Chaosy]

I think that sounds a little too good after all I can think of many things I need to improve. Even though I am somewhat proud of certain parts. (like the chapter 4 end cinematic)

 

[JCarrill0]

The chapter 2 should be unaffected by that, there's no goal with killing anything really. (or well at the last stage, but you can still complete the mission since you just gotta run past them to complete it.

I'm not sure, after the cinematic finished all the units I tried to select were neutral, so I could not control any unit in chapter 2. *Shrug*

for the story, yes it's BASED on real lore, not a copy of it.

My own take on it was the talking crystals when it should be corrupted ashbringer, or using Tirion as the high generals voice. it turned me away from interest, but I'll take a closer look at it in the end once it is finished.
As I had stated before i plan to work on a Ashbringer Campaign series anyways. You know the post I speak of.
No worries. Take your time on the campaign. lots of good movies themselves were often still good, and not based from the original timeline.
(Batman begins was a great movie imo)

 

[Heinvers]

I've spotted an issue Chaosy. The quest button is grayed out and no quest notifying? 0_o

 

[JCarrill0]

anyone else notice the Grom Skin looks like a scarlet Champion "Herod" model.
Makes me wanna shout "Blades of light!"

 

[Heinvers]

Yeah, I'll consult with Chaosy for better hero models

 

[Chaosy]

@heinvers
Not really a bug, I just didn't apply a quest. The goal of the quest is said in the cinematic. And I will apply my cinematic log system. (@spell section) So you will be able to re-read the dialog afterwards anyway.

@JCarrill0
well, there are barely any scarlet models so I need to use what I have. If you have a suggestion feel free to post them either here or in a VM/PM.

 

[Edge45]

**--Oh man, I didn't know Chapter two was a following a camera, (ow, I'm gonna be sick)---**

**--so why is Darions name Grom and Bridgitte's name - (wardens names)--**
**--Terrains good, but all trigger datas and objects seems to finish--**
-----****

 

[JCarrill0]

@JCarrill0
well, there are barely any scarlet models so I need to use what I have. If you have a suggestion feel free to post them either here or in a VM/PM.

My only suggestion is to contact the Race authors, and collaborate ideas here.
Scarlet Crusade (Race) Authors:

• Randomall
• Wa666r
• tomoraider
• Sunreaver - although his map is still pending.

 

[Go'el]

You could use this Footman skin, this Bandit skin, this Priest skin (although Misha set this as 'awaiting update') or the normal Chaplain model, the Bandit Lord model for Knight, maybe this Sorceress skin, this Cannon model (tp replace the Mortar Team), maybe some Tamed Eagles(?) to replace the Dragonhank.

Yeah, it's kinda of good...

 

[Heinvers]

I don't think those fit with the terrain Go'el. Thanks for the suggestions though. HQ models would fit better here.

 

[JCarrill0]

I don't think those fit with the terrain Go'el. Thanks for the suggestions though. HQ models would fit better here.

But some of those are being used already.
I do agree, HQ = better.

 

[Forsaken]

Since the terrain is really HQ, all the models should to be wow-ish, and don't how it's now, a mix of war model with wow models, it's looks a bit stranger war and wow models(units) together.

 

[Heinvers]

But some of those are being used already.

For now. I ignored that issue until now but it will be changed after I consult with Chaosy about this topic. Thanks for commenting guys.

 

[Go'el]

I don't think those fit with the terrain Go'el. Thanks for the suggestions though. HQ models would fit better here.

Oh, well, at least I tried, good luck with this Chaosy!

 

[Chaosy]

@go'el
I use 2 of those already, I saw the priest skin somewhere but I didn't add it for some valid reason. I think it didn't work for me, but I really can't remember.

@wow models suggestions
There's not a single scarlet model on wc3underground. (at least not in the humanoid section) and I can't rip it myself since my model viewer only finds 2 scarlet models.

 

[Letgoit2]

i know it has nothing to do with this campaign but pls where is the rise of the lichking campaign.. and no i dont mean the alternate campaign , i mean the campaign how the lichking enters eastern plague lands and stuff ... can some one give me the link? thx

 

[Vinz]

What alternate campaign? You should have made a thread for such question.

 

[Heinvers]

Please post all non related commentaries in other threads not here. The campaign is kinda slow now, we are still working on it of course. Stay tuned people and test the alpha version attached to the thread's first post.

 

[Znoopy]

Looks really good, can't wait to try it

 

[Arthas_the_Mad]

Hello! How is the campaign coming along?
Any news?

 

[Chaosy]

My, my. This was quite a bump.

And no, there is not. Personally I wanted to resume the project towards Christmas this year, however Heinvers is busy during that time I would be unable to keep up the quality he provided in the existing chapters.

 

[kakuzu]

So is it this project dead ?

 

[Chaosy]

Yeah pretty much. Personally I want to finish it some day, but I got no idea when I will get to it.

 

[kakuzu]

So you lost your interes ?

 

[Heinvers]

That's not the problem you know. It's harder to continue this only alone, previously he had me as his colleague but I got busy due to exams, real life and so on.

 

[Chaosy]

So you lost your interes ?

And no, there is not. Personally I wanted to resume the project towards Christmas this year, however Heinvers is busy during that time I would be unable to keep up the quality he provided in the existing chapters.

Answered that before.