RolePlay #3 preparation

[Cherrymage]

In the new universe perhaps?

Make tech not working in the new world?

 

[Chaosy]

If anything, nerf tech. Don't buff magic.
The OP level in RACC is high enough as it is.

 

[Cherrymage]

If we are going to keep tech, nerf it.

IMO We should have a choice for dual theme, but tech is nerfed

 

[WhiteFang]

IMO we should abandon all futuristic and tech related stuff.Come on guys,it has no place here.RACC isn't a futuristic RP

 

[Chaosy]

Tech exist in Warcraft, but it is on a MUCH lower level. They are mostly tools, really.

I can live with that, but really, mech/tech on that level is not enough to give RACC the genre "Tech".

 

[Cherrymage]

Well, okay then. Make it so that tech won't work well in the new world

 

[WhiteFang]

Ok.Might as well start the vote,if you guys are ready that is

 

[Chaosy]

Medieval with magic, as in default Warcraft.

Needless to say.

 

[WhiteFang]

Ok,Ill start it up but feel free to continue to discuss it,since its a heavy subject.As such,you are also allowed to change your vote,once

Added Chaosy's vote

Medieval/fantasy-1
Futuristic/Sci-fi-0

 

[Cherrymage]

...

Nevermind, just go with fantasy.

Still, I think tech and magic can co-exist together, at least on other stories.

 

[Chaosy]

They can. If magic go god mode.

 

[Daffa]

I'll go with magic. I made myself clear with my statement before.

Either magic or tech can be lost. We just need a good "excuse" for that, and we have bunch of them to choose from.

 

[Daffa]

In details from my post on emergency thread, I will recommend additional rules to add some real lock down :
Minor Events Limitation (either restricted to current major event owner or numeric limit)
Faction Number Limitation (if you want a faction, wreck one or just go solo or with small party)

We can discard the rule about instant faction rise stuff, since I'm sure we don't need it anymore with the limit, but still the main rule book (not RP #2 exclusive, but general rule) applies.

Honestly, I also start to see a shining point that factions are generally over the chart, as I said before, having exaggarating faction number with little amount of roleplayer is a recipe for disaster. So we need sort of restriction as I recommend above.

I personally recommend a limit of 5 factions, I'm sure Vampiren and Leo's Forces will pass the "eclipse phase", not sure about Shadow Legion and Egilians though. In other hand, I also see Chaosy has one ready as well.

In addition, about realms? Should we restrict it too? I know it's hard, but we kinda need a major nerfing with this system. Albeit useful, I see this as being the most imbalanced system, why? Let's see...
RP #1 :
Gods Realm : only entranceable by "Godlike" Characters
Raven's Realm : obvious for who
RP #2 :
Now, how many factions uses this system to cover themselves from the taints of war?

EDIT :
About the realm stuffs, it's not mandatory, but a consideration, seeing it as a dangerous tool that can be another reciper for disaster. At least some sort of limitations might be useful, but up to you guys.

Also, don't forget we MUST ABOLISH ALL OTHER UNIVERSES aside the main one so we get a good flow going.

 

[Daffa]

About the theme stuff, Tech is not lost totally, we just DEGRADE it to a level where it is less of importance than magic. Chaosy statement about Warcraft tech is a point.

We DO NOT discarded tech, blacksmith and those swords and guns will remain, we just get rid of FUTURISTIC tech (lasers, robots, remote controls and stuff) and make the remaining tech enhanced with magic (magical sword, enhanced guns etc). This is what I want to say in my post on earlier page when I show my view. Don't forget that tanks and airships still remains.

For those who remembered, the original Sky Guardians and Magic Fortresses in RP #1 are armed with magicians as their attackers (and I recall it keeps like that till now). That's the kind of tech that I aim within magic theme.

I will stop this theme talk for myself for now, or I might lose my temper totally. Need a little refresh.

 

[WhiteFang]

Replace advanced tech with magic but keep basic tech.

 

[Daffa]

Replace advanced tech with magic but keep basic tech.

Yes. Very correct.

And since we are using a new universe, then it's easy to dispose technology OR magic anyway, lots of "excuses".

 

[WhiteFang]

Aye but magic should stay IMO.It has a larger importance since everybody uses magic but not everybody uses tech

 

[Chaosy]

We can discard the rule about instant faction rise stuff

No, please. That is literary the only way to force a person to write decent backstory lol.

I personally recommend a limit of 5 factions

I would say 1. One good faction is way better than 5 half-assed ones.

In addition, about realms?

Creating your own universe is absurd. The only acceptable ones perhaps the Twisting Nether and the Emerald Dream. Though I do not like the thought of basing yourself there.

 

[Cherrymage]

I agree with Daffa's 5 faction limit.

Deroc and his Pherith Empire will be there in the new world, as the Third Cake Crusade.

About the 'excuses', I have an idea. How about saying that the new world's atmosphere contains some special pulses preventing advanced tech from functioning? Stuffs like robots and lasers will not going to work properly there. But I think basic mechs should still be usable.

About personal realms, yeah, I can't attack Abaddon's Fury or someone else because they hid behind their impenetrable worlds, avoiding dangers. Bringing in the 'no-other-realms' rule may bring in thrills and dangers, thus making the RP more fun. I mean, nobody loves Mary Sue, right?

Still, I think we should keep the 'no instant-risen faction' rule. That makes things more balanced.

 

[WhiteFang]

Minor Events Limitation

Minor events aren't that bad since they don't force the other RPers' attention

In addition, about realms? Should we restrict it too?

Yes,but not too much.1 realm per RPer

I would say 1

And I agree.

But I think basic mechs should still be usable.

No.

I can't attack Abaddon's Fury

How this a disadvantage,I'm not enemies with any RPer.If I was I would change it.

Mary Sue

You did not just fucking call me that.

Still, I think we should keep the 'no instant-risen faction' rule. That makes things more balanced.

Only thing in that post I found that I agreed with

 

[Chaosy]

Yes,but not too much.1 realm per RPer

I object. Sorry.

 

[Cherrymage]

Sorry WhiteFang, I didn't meant to call you that, but I was referring to generally OP stuffs. If I sound like insulting you, I am sorry.

I was planning to have Nod or some other people attack Abaddon's Fury, but since you locked your world, I can't.

This time I agree with Chaosy. Also, if there's too many RPers, then will the RP overwhelmed with secondary realms?

 

[WhiteFang]

Its ok,no harm done.

You should have told me,I would have removed the barriers.

Well,I didn't think about it that way.I changed my mind,bring in the no secondary rule!But then we should completely ban time travel and alternative and/or parallel universes

 

[Chaosy]

Not to mention that it's like literary separating everyone. I thought you was against that WF

 

[WhiteFang]

I'm a lone wolf.Unity is a good thing and I do support it but my personal taste is being alone

 

[Chaosy]

Well, good luck uniting when everyone lock themselves up in their own realms

I think realms can be abused too. If they work as the twisting nether or the shadow plane it's also an effective portal which means you can enter behind enemy lines through it.

 

[WhiteFang]

I think realms can be abused too

And it is and will be again if we don't ban it

 

[Chaosy]

How come you never abused it then? xD

It can be insanely OP if abused to the limit in battle

 

[WhiteFang]

I prefer full on aggression over taking advantage of enemies

 

[Chaosy]

Maybe they would limit it sooner if you did.

 

[Devin]

I'm a lone wolf.Unity is a good thing and I do support it but my personal taste is being alone

No offense, but why do you even connect to the internet then? lol

 

[WhiteFang]

I don't have anything better to do

 

[Devin]

An online community is a virtual community whose members interact with each other primarily via the Internet.

Then don't be alone please.

 

[Chaosy]

Devin, while you're the one being correct here, I for one had issues getting into RP with everyone. It did not feel natural at all. Which is the main reason I 'quit' originally.

 

[Devin]

@Chaosy Did you feel uncomfortable?

 

[Chaosy]

Not exactly.

image done in paint

 

[Devin]

@Chaosy Oh, i get it.

It can be sometimes confusing when not reading what happened earlier, but you could ask the roleplayer or roleplayers about what has happend and get in sync

 

[Chaosy]

Even so, it feels very forced. If you want to RP with another faction you 'need' to contact them and force a conversation.

Basically I had no IC reason to go contact either faction as there were no clear goal with the RP. It basically said: "Create a character or two and RP"

If it would have said: "Engage in the battle for Vestorya, join the noble alliance of UMSR (Or whatever the name was) and defeat X with your united high tech forces! Or join the Nagrand Human Airforce to flank X's territory from the very west." then I would have known in which direction to go.

edit: It would have worked if there was a DM. Then I could RP on my own at the start while still being influenced by another party until I find a reason to interact with another faction.

 

[Devin]

Well, you need to be in sync, you don't really need to ask themselves most of the time, you can just type : "OOC: Can someone explain the recent events?" or something

That depends on the current events (for example you can join VGI and fight against nod or reverse), its a good idea though, i should implement it.

Actually there is a DM...

 

[Chaosy]

Meh, it feels insufficient. Even if I get a TL;DR regarding the recent events, that does not exactly give my character(s) a goal.
Let's say there is a giant battle between X and Y. Should my character(s) join the clash just for the sake of fighting? That's even against the rules as one may not interrupt a serious RP.
Sure I may come up with a reason like "They will owe me a favor afterwards." but still, that feels very vague, and yet again forced.

When I think about it, this is highly personal so it might just be me who feels that way. So take it with a grain of salt.

Regarding DMs, not what I consider a DM. A DM is the one who controls the environment (among other tasks, but it is this task which I am mostly interested in here). So if, let's say one of my characters are traveling by boat to reach X. The DM 'summons' a huge sea monster which attack the boat. Or perhaps a few pirate ships coming to plunder.

 

[Devin]

You could offer to help them (for example vestroya is under grave danger and your character wants to help defend it) before the actual battle.

I could do that, actually it is a great idea.

 

[Chaosy]

Yeah if my characters knew either side, by blindly guessing they could be helping the bad guys instead of the good guys or vice versa.

Yay
Solo RP, reborn.

 

[Devin]

Maybe he listened to the populace, i mean who doesn't know which group or country they are at war with.

 

[Daffa]

Yeah, in RP #1 we have some people aiding the bad guys (*cough* Shadow Legion aiding Nekros temporarily *cough*) and it adds more serious complications, which is what we could really enjoy

 

[Chaosy]

@Devin
Issue being that it is highly subjective. Trust me when I say Ceri's definition of justice is not equal to most

edit: usually commoners do not know the whole story either.

Let's stop here though, I feel like we can go on forever xD

@Daffa
I will sort of RP a evil faction, though the leader is not really god mode enough to take on many factions at the same time.

 

[Daffa]

Your choice Chaosy. Though having evil factions with mysterious intents are always a good guess game for everyone

 

[WhiteFang]

I could do that, actually it is a great idea.

And what DMs usually do.(have you played D&D?)But we need a active DM

Though having evil factions with mysterious intents are always a good guess game for everyone

Chaosy won't be the only evil one.It turns out being attacked while severely weakened by headaches and the voice of your father,getting your hand decapitated,being kidnapped and then sacrificed to your own father can mess with someone's head.Like it is with Archimonde Supreme

Let's stop here though, I feel like we can go on forever

Agreed,lets get back on topic

 

[Daffa]

So, agreement on the theme?

 

[WhiteFang]

Yeah

 

[Chaosy]

@Daffa
'Do I look like a woman with a plan?' - Lady Lerania (I hope someone get the reference..)

@WF
I can try to DM as a plan B I am pretty active at least.