[ORPG] Shadows of Everwood

[Wolfe]

Alright, well, tell me what else you'd like to see in the OP and I'll add it within the next week. This excludes the demo itself (you wish, =P), classes (to be done) and progress (to be done).

 

[Tukki]

An updated list of features!
System previews!
Hero model images?

This is your chance to get that info you want!!

 

[Dragonson]

Eh... Guys?
Those sigs you made...
I know i sounds like a total asshole when i say this, but i'm very touchy when people modify my art and i dont agree with the results: I do not, at all, like how those sigs look.
Soeh, i kinda made you these instead.
Hope they're satisfactory. :S

Next time just ask me to do the sig versions, k?
Sigs IS what i do, after all. And these took 5 minutes to make, including the upload.
Heck, i can even make each of you a customised version!* Just tell me to do so! ROARRGH!
Dragonson enters a five-second artist rage.

*Yes, that's an offer.

 

[Tukki]

That's just normal Dragonson
We pretty much brought it on ourselves, sorry for that!

Thanks for the sig versions, though, they're a lot better than my attempt!

 

[Dragonson]

No problem at all.
In the future, just tell me what you need.
The offer for those customised sigs (Maybe a slightly diffirent theme? Fall? Summer? Winter? Ancient Ruins? Demonic?) is still open, and know that i can do everything from icons to skins if i dont have to follow hive submission rules.
I dont do much copypaste, but being able to rely abit on layer styles 'n such can produce awesome stuff.
'specially for roots and plants.

 

[Tukki]

You've just made an offer I cannot refuse.

*Compiling list of artwork*

 

[Dragonson]

Speaketh uppeth then!
Wolfe told me he'd need some thread artwork a few days ago, but never told me what exactly was needed.
Yes, that's a question wolfe.

 

[Davesanz]

Can you add some screenshots of the character models please?

 

[Grey Nightmare]

"Live with realistic non-playable characters that go to work in the morning and sleep at night"

Just curious, have you incorporated beds and sleep anims or will they 'disappear' or perhaps stand in a corner with ZzzZZzzzZZZz?

Sorry if that sounds patronising, I am generally just curious, the first would be awesome, the second would be great enough (can't say I'm too keen on the 3rd...).
Or did you have something even cooler in mind?!

 

[Wolfe]

Well not all buildings will be enterable (especially at night - unrealistic for someone to leave their doors unlocked for total strangers), so the first is out of the question. They will, however, disappear into their homes, guard patrols will increase and thieves/murderers will increase (murderers just appear, but thieves do exist during the day as well). Certain creeps will also become more active (such as bandits) and some less active (such as the ogre kind of the marshes).

It really is a complex system, and will take a while to implement, but I feel that immersion is one of the keys to a successful game.

 

[Tukki]

My plan was for them to walk to some random house and 'disappear' into the house.
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Currently they citizens of Kravengarde can walk around in the city using 'roads'.
A system monitors the current load on the few 'connection points', and projects a route depending on that load.
Essentially this means that some merchants may appear more often in areas with much people, than in the less frequently used parts of the city.
This is however, kind of random, and still in alpha status - so don't expect any villagers to become thieves and be chased by guards or anything.
(Might be one or two scripted thieves, but no dynamic things)

So, about the sleep. They'll probably disappear in the demo version.
(No beds or animations are planned at this point)
In a more advanced version of the villager ai, one or two might become thieves at night, while others go to the bar or maybe to the garrison.
(Just examples)
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A little progress update too:

• 2 more Paragon spells completed (he's now 99% finished, got some object editing left to do).
• A set of test items have been created, and there might appear a small preview of the current inventory interface build later this week!

Also, I'm going away on Friday (4th) and will come back on the 11th.
So no coding updates during that time! :/

Hope this suffices as an answer!

 

[Wolfe]

Also, folks, there will be three thread updates over the next four to five days.

• i: an update to the story, introducing players to their role in the game, the tensions of the empire, the zones and beasts you will encounter
• ii: an update to the features list with in-depth descriptions and screenshots (this is a over-a-span-of-time thing)
• iii: more screenshots (we know you love them)
• iv: everything about classes (with the exception of a few things) including progression, skills, stories, etc.
• v: combat section - everything about combat (casting, projectiles, experience, stats, items, ai, conditions, etc.)

Until tonight!

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Awesome, so guards will arrest or kill thieves?
Do the other citizens 'run' or 'panic' around murderers?
Aww man there is so much you could do with that.

Immersion indeed... :S
I'm overloading with the possibilities!!

 

[Wolfe]

Yeah, it is a shame that we can't achieve it all.

One thing we could implement is some sort of "White Lion Reputation" system (the White Lions being the military of the empire) where doing things such as arresting thieves and killing murderers (yes, capital punishment) will give you reputation and open up other possibilities for late-game (the most obvious being items, but perhaps other things too?).

I think the most complex of this system will be demonstrated in Post Demo, where both creeps and allies will be influenced by artificial intelligence.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Yeah, it is a shame that we can't achieve it all.

Time constraints? Engine limits?
I've always had this theory that the right AI system would... supposedly drive itself, it might not need to be as complex as most people think.

 

[Wolfe]

Well, a bit of both. We've been working on this demo too long already (hehe), and the engine limits may not be able to support it (with the old AI, we did experience a fraps increase that did cause lag).

You know, if you are really overwhelmed with ideas (and this is to all fans), do not hesitate to PM either myself or Tukki (as he is the one coding it, hehe).

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Oh sure, yeah I will ofc.
There's a few a little things that stand in my way but if I ever get past them I'll let you guys know =)
Until then keep us/me posted on... everything (cough, ai + other 'immersive' stuff)

 

[shadowsun]

i know i am a bit slow here but Dragonson if you made the top of the wolfs head from the ears back to the roots look more like fur i think that would make the wolf look a bit more natural.

 

[HeroSlayer]

Ok guys, I know you never hear from me, xD
I've been working with textures, and with models. So im currently making a new texture for the hero.
You will be able to see it soon, along with a starting set

i know i am a bit slow here but Dragonson if you made the top of the wolfs head from the ears back to the roots look more like fur i think that would make the wolf look a bit more natural.

I agree.

 

[Dragonson]

@HeroSlayer and Shadowsun
Already tried something like that. Doesnt work out.
Sometimes you just gotta sit back, take a look at your design, and tell yourself whether this cool new idea still has that neat look.
It did not, sadly. :S


Also, wolfe's told me what art he needs me to do.
I didnt really do anything yesterday, but expect some stuff later today.

 

[Tukki]

A little update on the Paragon:

• All spells now 100% coded and I've just tool-tip fixes left to do!

It seemed like I was a bit optimistic in my earlier estimation
However, it's all finished now, which means that there's only one hero-spell left to code!!
(It's currently under re-designing)

Got to compile D's list of things and then there's a lot of homework waiting for me :>

 

[Dragonson]

I currently have a big list of work to do from you guys, most of which i FINALLY got two days ago , and i sadly wont be finishing any before friday.

Right now i'm tired as f****, as i just finished the most tiresome sig in my life.

So many designs... Lost to my discard bucket or crushed under my crashing computer...

...aaand tomorrow's my birthday.
So i wont really be doing much then either.
(Note that it is very late where i live, not early in the morning.)

 

[Oziris]

I like the goblin exploration, keep up the good work. And I cant wait to see the borders your going to make for us!

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Dragon, Dragon, Dragon!
The fur addition wouldn't be too bad actually you just need the right brush =D
Not sure if photoshop has one but I know my iPod Sketchbook app does, you just want a 'fibre' brush, do a few highlighted layers, few shadows. PROFIT! =D

Looking forward to that model and texture HeroSlayer <3 O_O

 

[Wolfe]

On-topic please.

Soon to come (in the next few hours) - story update.

Tomorrow will introduce some new screenshots, as well as the up-to-date features list.

 

[OxygenD]

IT MAP IS BEST OF THE BEST!!!!! Oziris, i dont know how.. but you create a super map! You can help me? You can create in my map you hero pick sistem! Please i beg you!!!

 

[Oziris]

Haha, I didn't create that! Tukki did. I do the environment part.

 

[HeroSlayer]

Units? This is an ORPG, not an Altered Melee...

Well, I hope you give us some more screenshots too of the actual gameplay.

More units = Creeps and such
You = *


And yes, more units will be displayed

 

[Wolfe]

You = *

I don't appreciate such comments. You're the Lead Artist - do not be rude to people who have stuck with this project for a while.

Also, sorry for the thread delay guys. You know how it goes - life, school, the horror of growth... I'll hopefully be able to deliver some shizznat today and tomorrow!

 

[Grey Nightmare]

The horror of growth?!
Anyway looking forward to it the 'shizznat' that is ^_^

 

[Wolfe]

Yes. Pain, emotions and whatnot. 'tis a horrible thing, hehe.

 

[phoenixfire]

Hmmm, a different growth from what I was thinking then.

Is Shizznat a word by the way?

 

[Wolfe]

I don't believe so. A bit of random colloquialism here and there doesn't hurt.

 

[GhostThruster]

I don't appreciate such comments. You're the Lead Artist - do not be rude to people who have stuck with this project for a while.

Lol, don't worry.

Any new stuff happening?

 

[Wolfe]

Okay, no more responding to the off-topic argument, thank you.

However, GhostThruster, I must correct you. Shadows of Everwood will be more than just your class - we're putting quite a lot of effort into creeps, bosses, etc. (which are essentially units). ^.^

Tonight, I'll be posting the first chapter of Combat, essentially introducing everyone to how we want it to appear in the game and the capabilities you have in combat. As well as that, I will be adding some more screenshots and some details on the inventory.

 

[Dragonson]

Finished up the thread art Wolfe Requested.
I'l let him decide if it's ready to be displayed yet, so i'm sending it his direction with a nice PM.

Let me know when you got that list finished tukki, lol.

 

[Wolfe]

Unfortunately, my activation period for Microsoft Office has expired (the third license for the activation code was used on my old computer). Due to this, I cannot access any of my works regarding the thread or even the game. Until I get a new license, this thread will be barren.

I, however, will be working on some new stuff in WordPad, as it seems a waste to start all of my works for the project again.

I apologize for the delay, guys.

 

[reisbro]

I just know that the time won't be a problem for me, I have patience and all I care about is the result, which I know it will be great xD
But I really wanted to see more pics D:

 

[Dragonson]

That sounds kinda wierd, but i REALLY shouldnt be talking.
Stuff like that is more common for me than i think is healthy.

Hope ya' get it fixed wolfe!

 

[Wolfe]

I hope so too. Itching to get some of this stuff finished. I'm too excited about it. xD

 

[baassee]

Unfortunately, my activation period for Microsoft Office has expired (the third license for the activation code was used on my old computer). Due to this, I cannot access any of my works regarding the thread or even the game. Until I get a new license, this thread will be barren.

OpenOffice is the key.

 

[Dragonson]

OpenOffice is the key.

Seconded. OpenOffice is pure awesome.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

OpenOffice?

 

[Dragonson]

It's a free program. Does everything Microsoft Office does and better.
Some people have this wierd thing against using it though.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Uh well that's a matter of opinion, as far as free software goes I would deem it better value, but Microsoft Office is a slightly superior product in my opinion (I'd use MS exclusively if it were free).

But yeah wolfe, you can open word files in openoffice so download that

 

[OxygenD]

Project developers Shadows of Evewood! I really want to become one of the author of this great map. I am ready to assist in the creation of triggers and little in the landscape. How do I become one of you?I can give you any information about yourself as a token of my intentions to the project. I will also work hard on him as the weight you. I really want to help you.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

*psst* dude be a bit more formal D;
Send Wolfe a detailed PM or something.

 

[Oziris]

Triggers are not used in our project, you need to know Vjass in order to help us out. And help with the landscape isn't needed, I got it all covered.

 

[Garfield1337]

Triggers are not used in our project, you need to know Vjass in order to help us out. And help with the landscape isn't needed, I got it all covered.

A map without triggers...you're kidding? >_>
You probably want to say you're not using GUI,but JASS uses them too.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

I think he meant GUI triggers, but yeah essentially even vJASS is 'triggers'.