Monster Savior v1.14c

[Daffa]

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[Callahan]

The credit is inside the map.

 

[Reputation Generator]

not bad, not bad at all.

 

[fantocan]

Really don't like the fixed camera, and feels like just too forward, no freedom at all.

 

[deepstrasz]

I can't start this on 1.29.2. Player slots aren't shown. If it only works on 1.30, I'll wait until the bugs are fixed before I update.

 

[Deleted member 264867]

I LOVE this map. The whole style (models and textures) is so fresh and funny, I love the garden system and how gold and items works in general, and I like the original way to use stats.
Great job. Would like to see a 1-4 player version.

 

[Gluma]

I love the concept of the map, it has a wide selection of herous which all play differently and I had a good amount of fun, playing all the way to what I think was the last area (for some reasom the boss just didn't spawn)

I does have a weird ballance though, like the mushroom guy felt really kinda easy for e.g., altho I see why ballancing could be hard here, considering how much stuff is going on all the time. I feel like there's just too much cannon fodder in the later stages, I know its kinda the point of it but it still felt too much like a chaotic mess, I'd rather have a smaller amount of stronger enemies which feel like a sizeable collection of individual enemies, rather than a tide of liquified uncountable enemy mass.

And thanks for using my models, I always appreciate that!

 

[Callahan]

The area to the north of the town isn't finished yet the bosses don't have abilities.
The last area is against lizard people and it should spawn a boss using your serpent knight model.


I have new version in making with chance to spawn elite version of enemies.

 

[Gluma]

The area to the north of the town isn't finished yet the bosses don't have abilities.
The last area is against lizard people and it should spawn a boss using your serpent knight model.


I have new version in making with chance to spawn elite version of enemies.

That's kinda weird, the area seemed to be taking forever. Could this be a result of me saving and loading?

By the way despite the map being quite captivating, it felt like it was missing a rangible end goal, like "Kill lord Evil McVillain because he bad" kind of text in the beginning. Something as simple as this could add to anticipation. Just a random thought I had

oh yeah and new version is cool, will wait

 

[deepstrasz]

1. Hero attribute icon looks like a green square (tauren hero).
2. You should decide whether the camera to be locked or not. It's annoying to have it move by itself.
3. After I entered the first gate to the second/next level/zone, the camera went too up to the north, the hero not being seen properly until I moved it. Actually it happens every time you enter another zone.
   
4. The Gold icon for items is a chest while the one up on the top UI is a coin.
5. There's a lot of grinding involved in the same place until you become strong enough to be able to defeat the boss in that region. Plus, the gamble of item drops.
   
6. Fighting the Kobold boss is annoying when the camera goes down again.
7. How do you know how many crystals, metal etc. you have?
8. Tampering with the Rat Brain doesn't do anything but cost money and change the number instead of 10 to 20 then to 6 but the attributes it gives are all the same.

All, in all, it's a slow paced (because you mostly spend time in the same places) grind.

Approved.

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[Callahan]

The camera has been changed in upcoming version it used to be designed around 4:3 resolution. It is now wider and doesn't pan automaticaly and doesn't bug when changing zone anymore.
You can see ressource by pressing left/right arrow.
Tempering works fine, the attribute granted by item charge is white.

 

[deepstrasz]

Tempering works fine, the attribute granted by item charge is white.

So is from 10 to 20 to 6 normal?

You can see ressource by pressing left/right arrow.

Would be really helpful to have a guide in the Quest Log.

 

[Callahan]

So is from 10 to 20 to 6 normal?

Yes tempering is an interval with higher min-max value than untempered but new min value can still be lower than untempered max value.

 

[knight26]

Looks like fun, will definitely try it!
Guys, is this even Wc3?
Combat is so fluid unbelievable!

Click meh

Edit2:
Well I've been playing for a while, and I finally am done. It was a fun little experience, honestly didn't expect to play that long, but I enjoyed it every bit.
It's a creative map, definitely original. I can see this becoming a fast paced indie game. I suggest everyone give it a try, I played for a few hours and am really satisfied.

There is one thing I'd like to suggest. Once you reach level 80, to make a -repick choice or rather newgame+ kind of thing. Since I had so many items that I created, and I'd like to use some other hero without going through the grind again.

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5/5 from me, thank you for your contribution to our community!

 

[dreadlord_tr]

At first i was like: "this game really needs a guide. I cant understand half the things going on screen or about stats." Then 'The Old Stunk' tree began giving advices

Really liked it. Still dont know what is a biomass from fungus hero tho.

Edit : Yeah now i got it.

 

[Callahan]

New hero preview : Shark Cook

 

[Krolan]

Maybe I just missed something, but I'm pretty sure I didn't screw up anywhere.
After the Undead Citadel (that's what I call it) after the Meat-Weagon Bossbattle, the bottom Portal isn't activating. It's not taking me anywhere, My Hero just passes through that thing as if it was thin air.
Am I screwed now, or was there nothing to begin with?

Want to add that the portal is *not* "grayed out" like other ones were when the Boss was not yet deafeated.

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EDIT: Don't know if it matters, but I'm using the stable 1.30.1 version of WC3

 

[Callahan]

It's normal. The area after Meatwagon Boss is not completed yet.

 

[Krolan]

It's normal. The area after Meatwagon Boss is not completed yet.

Then I apologize for being a bother ^^'
Still a very solid and enjoyable map, I must say.

Take care and Greetings

 

[Mr.Pro]

I Love your maps, they´re so unique and fun to play, Heroes of Genesia was one of the best campaings i ever played and you released it so long ago, now another masterpiece. Congratz and one question, do you intend to update your other maps? (Sorry for my bad english)

5/5

 

[Callahan]

No I won't update my other maps they were made on old patch with editor tool that is not compatible anymore it would take less time to remake a map from scratch than trying to fix older one.

 

[Kino]

Knowing nothing, I went in expecting a Heroes of Genesia sucessor.
This is quite abit slower; though thats not a bad thing.

- The garden was a really fun distraction and entertaining minigame.
- Really love how the boss ability telegraphs were done; though the sound cue is abit too quiet.

Minor stuff
- A spawning sfx for monsters would be nice
- The portal to the actual combat areas could be larger and placed somewhere that isnt hidden in the corner.
- Minimap texture flashes constantly for reasons I cant figure out

 

[Callahan]

To fix the minimap flicking you have to deactivate show terrain on the minimap I think it's the button with mountains next to minimap.
It's because of camera bound updating.

 

[Mr.Pro]

Tooltip for the E ability for the inquisitor is not being updated, it just stay as "???". Also great map, played literaly every monster now haha

 

[Callahan]

Thanks for feedback I will fix it.

 

[Mr.Pro]

Found another thing with the tomahawk bison this time, if you unlock the potential ancestor remanation and then change to the bison one you still can move freely in totemic fury making it cast in various directions

 

[Callahan]

Thanks I'll fix that too.

 

[deepstrasz]

1. Played it on 1.31.1 with the spadassin. The spells all have "???" descriptions.
   
2. The minimap is shaking for some reason and enemy dots appear and reappear on it, flickering.
3. Some kobold reappear near the zone edges and don't come to attack if the hero doesn't get near them.
4. What about more dyes since there are like almost 24 colours now?

 

[Callahan]

The tooltip bug is because of native index 0 patch making "get current level of ability" not working properly so it update ability tooltip of wrong level.
I wait for a fix for in a better patch. I don't want to redo all my trigger to work around a patch bug and redo it again if the bug get fixed.
Also the hero champignox can't be played because in this patch the model won't load because of a missing texture/changed texture file path.

 

[knight26]

Yo, thought about making this multiplayer? I just wanted to host something cool, and realized this is single player only. It'd be great if it's possible

 

[Callahan]

I cannot make this map multiplayer. Too many trigger are made single player instance and I'd have to redo everything to make it multiplayer. I'd be faster and easier to just make another map.

 

[Callahan]

New version is released with 2 new characters and better compatibility with regorged latest version.

 

[tulee]

New version is released with 2 new characters and better compatibility with regorged latest version.

Awesome. Can't wait to play this once I am able to access Wc3 again. I still hold out hope for your Heroes of Genesia getting a sequel or update though. It is one of the most unique campaigns on hiveworkshop.

 

[Callahan]

v1.14b
Important bug fix : Fixed a bug that caused all character to trigger Junkyard Panzer auto cannon when being damaged.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[Zyle]

I have Warcraft 1.31 and the map won't show up in my map list

 

[Tal'Rarity]

I have Warcraft 1.31 and the map won't show up in my map list

The latest version is no longer playable in Warcraft, you'll need to use Reforged 3 latest version instead.

 

[deepstrasz]

The latest version is no longer playable in Warcraft, you'll need to use Reforged 3 latest version instead.

Reforged 3?
I think the latest Classic patch would do.