Mini-Mapping Contests: The Drums in the Dungeon

[Kingz]

And trust me, in this map, you better be moving ;D

For instance:
You kill an enemy, several minutes later it respawns but this time it's stats are greatly increased (drop stays the same). This prevents farming spots for gear but also adds a challenge. The map will be full of these unique aspects. Hope you guys are up for a challenge, this isn't going to be a walk in the park

 

[HappyTauren]

And trust me, in this map, you better be moving ;D

For instance:
You kill an enemy, several minutes later it respawns but this time it's stats are greatly increased (drop stays the same). This prevents farming spots for gear but also adds a challenge. The map will be full of these unique aspects. Hope you guys are up for a challenge, this isn't going to be a walk in the park

This is a complete contrary to my map, where I won't even use a hero for the main character, so there will be no stat boosting etc.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Just had the first multiplayer test. Fairly successful, plenty of bugs to fix. Aggro system surprisingly working very well.

 

[Omnom18]

This is a complete contrary to my map, where I won't even use a hero for the main character, so there will be no stat boosting etc.

Sounds like a step backwards if you ask me. Surely your character should have stronger abilities as the map goes on?

 

[edo494]

from the video heposted it looms like it is rather a logic maze sungeon map then some boss fight map as mine for instance

 

[Kingz]

This is a complete contrary to my map

Creativity and innovation is born from diversity. So i look forward to your map.

 

[HammerFist]

One information from me. Freeze my for until 10. september then active working for 10 days and my final entry should come in 20. Semptebmer. See u later.

 

[HappyTauren]

Creativity and innovation is born from diversity. So i look forward to your map.

Same here, just saying how, despite the 'typical' theme we got, we'll all make completely different things and that makes me happy

Sounds like a step backwards if you ask me. Surely your character should have stronger abilities as the map goes on?

A bit, yes, however, I'd like to note that the gameplay is going to be skill based (as in, user interaction skill) rather than stat based. There will be no +5str bonuses to save your character from the fact that you suck at playing the game xD But yeah, I am going to include more diverse and complex combat as you progress, what I am saying is that your character isn't going to be 50 times as powerful on the end of the map.

 

[Kingz]

Since i am drawing my inspiration from Dark Souls and i died like 120 times in that game already and still haven't passed it i find the hard difficult of a game much more appreciating.

And i assure you, gear will provide and edge in my map, but that won't make it any less a challenge in the end. I deeply hate the right click maps and gameplay that is why you better not get hit by my bosses and stay away from my dungeon traps.

 

[HappyTauren]

Yeah, you mean, those maps that are so imbalanced that the end is much easier than the start, and all you have to do is right click the boss so your hero does his job.

 

[Kingz]

Pretty much yes.
No fun in that.

 

[HappyTauren]

It's funny that it is actually also a problem in many professionally-made RPG games, that are so open that you can ruin your gameplay experience by hoarding too much stuff and making yourself too powerful, so I'd like to warn contestants that it is easy to fall into that trap, even in a single dungeon map.

 

[Omnom18]

I've lost how many times I've gotten up to pace my room and discuss what I'm about to do with myself before doing abilities for both heroes and bosses. >.>

 

[rulerofiron99]

My solution to that problem is pre-placed creeps. That way I can know exactly how strong players can be at each boss fight.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

HappyTauren, we have the same concept, but mine does have stat boosters and stats, which just make spells stronger. Most spells get values from stats in mine.

 

[Kingz]

Btw some trivia information:

Volcano is the only ability able to generate destructibles.

Perhaps you guys can figure out something with it

 

[HappyTauren]

Btw some trivia information:

Volcano is the only ability able to generate destructibles.

Perhaps you guys can figure out something with it

I've known this for years, but have never found it any useful, might be just that I suck at creativity XD

 

[nedio95]

I didn't know that and I just came up with an idea Tnx.

 

[baassee]

I've known this for years, but have never found it any useful, might be just that I suck at creativity XD

Same here but afaik it's not about creativity - I found that spell rather useless.

 

[HappyTauren]

Same here but afaik it's not about creativity - I found that spell rather useless.

Well, all it really gives you is an ability to spawn a destructable with timed life, though there is nothing about it that can't be done with code, as far as I know.

 

[nedio95]

Well, all it really gives you is an ability to spawn a destructable with timed life, though there is nothing about it that can't be done with code, as far as I know.

Yep, the code for my idea is bigger than the one I would need if I spawn a destructible with trigger...

 

[PROXY]

A few WIP's.

 

[nedio95]

Looking good ^

PS:God damn you all with your terraining skills !!

 

[HappyTauren]

Woah, wait there, you are forcing me to improve my terrain! Well, I will get rid of blizzard cliffs, though I know that will make many people happy (including me, haha).

 

[Kingz]

@PROXY

DAT fog.

Also you could try the goblin UI and see how it works out:
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/goblinuitile2-blp-193800/?prev=d%3Dlist%26r%3D20%26t%3D30

 

[PROXY]

Haha thank ya ^^

HappyTauren, great to hear Though, they are not looking that bad when used in a map like yours IMO.

I've already tested the goblin UI and it just doesn't fit, it looks too muche like the freaky, engieenering style of the goblins.

 

[Kingz]

Too bad there isn't a hack to allow higher cliff level above 2 without raising the rest of the ground with it :s

 

[rulerofiron99]

Btw some trivia information:

Volcano is the only ability able to generate destructibles.

Perhaps you guys can figure out something with it

This helps me, thanks!

 

[HappyTauren]

Too bad there isn't a hack to allow higher cliff level above 2 without raising the rest of the ground with it :s

There you go.

 

[Kingz]

Not what i meant.
I meant real blizz cliffs, we have a hack for terraining (MiscData.txt) but not for blizz cliffs

 

[HappyTauren]

well, you can at least simulate them this way. Make it a walkable destructable and voila.

 

[Kingz]

I know how to do it :s
I also prefer using invisible platforms to make doodads walkable, more control.

Edit:

Just so you guys don't forget:
You can change ingame fog dynamically with triggers.

Edit2:

Any idea how to make neutral hostile creeps use custom abilities? :s

Edit3:

Nvm, found out.

 

[baassee]

Edit2:

Any idea how to make neutral hostile creeps use custom abilities? :s

Edit3:

Nvm, found out.

There's a tutorial about how AI functions for different spells. I used that kind of simulation in Master Arena.

 

[Kingz]

Guys, how to remove borders around the unit portrait during a cinematic? :S
I removed everything except that.

 

[-Kobas-]

Image - Game Menu Border -> UI\Widgets\EscMenu\Human\blank-background.blp

 

[Kingz]

Thanks.
Also i want to remind you guys you can animate doodads via triggers and regions.
Maybe you can do something with that information?

 

[HappyTauren]

Thanks.
Also i want to remind you guys you can animate doodads via triggers and regions.
Maybe you can do something with that information?

I already am, some custom doodads I've created have a "spell" animation which turns them 75% transparent.

 

[Kingz]

Anyhow i will see to release a small demo in the next two days with the starting area and the core systems working + cinematics.

What do you guys use to lock up maps, widgetizer?

 

[baassee]

What do you guys use to lock up maps, widgetizer?

Vex Optimizer + SLK optimizer/Widgetizer.

 

[HappyTauren]

If you're going to use Vex's optimizer and Widgetizer, do read the documentation thoroughly, or you are gonna have a really bad time.

 

[baassee]

If you're going to use Vex's optimizer and Widgetizer, do read the documentation thoroughly, or you are gonna have a really bad time.

Widgetizer readme is required, some things are bugged with Widgetizer ^^

HOWEVER using vex and slk optimizer wooaahhh beaware shit might happen

 

[HappyTauren]

Finishing the work on the interface.

at your own risk, it sucks

 

[Kingz]

You damaged some icons in the process. Mainly the armor and strength one at their bottom.

Also rofl hoof stomp xD

 

[edo494]

how do you move the UI down? Im just curious how to do it because it looks interesting

 

[HappyTauren]

Just alpha it out, the part you CAN alpha out.

 

[baassee]

Looks a little Source[X] inspired menu background.

 

[HappyTauren]

What is Source[X]?

 

[baassee]

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums...4/?prev=search=mass%20destruction&d=list&r=20

Illidanevil(X)

 

[HappyTauren]

Woah, that is a truly amazing piece of work

 

[rulerofiron99]

Screens!

I've decided to go the

• Custom script: call SetDayNightModels("","")

route.

Starting area

A human outpost at midnight

The heroes preparing to enter the dungeon

On to the dungeon!