[Arena] Mini-Mapping Contests: The Drums in the Dungeon ~ Poll

[Vengeancekael]

Your task is to create a dungeon map. The map's genre has to reflect a role playing game and the objective should be anything related to the dungeon, such as killing a creature within, escaping the dungeon, etc. Machinate challenges, mythical creatures and the hero to be controlled by the player and guide us through the epic journey of your fantasy!

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Vote for your favorite map! Note: This poll does not count in any way for the map's final rating, it is only to gather the community's opinion on the contest's entries.

Entries:
rulerofiron99
Tickles
MaTiJa97
Aeroblyctos
DeathChef
Dat-C3
Kino
HammerFist132

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25 reputation for the winner & every contestant shall receive 5 reputation each!

Lordkoon
baassee

Final rating completely based on the judges' reviews.

Contest

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Oh, nice. Now I'm gonna check out other contestants and see how well they've build their entries.

Great.

 

[-Kobas-]

@HammerFist132 please use attachment instead pastebin, save entry permanently.

 

[sonofjay]

@HammerFist132 please use attachment instead pastebin, save entry permanently.

I believe that you can now save your pastebin files forever.

 

[-Kobas-]

I believe that you can now save your pastebin files forever.

That's true, but pastebin is available only to site users, guests won't be able to check it's content

 

[HammerFist132]

Mate i would rly like to do that, but I do not have pc internet (far away from civiliyation) xD, so I have to do it with my mobile and for some reason I get error 417 when I try to do it, so pastebin in only way, I was talking about this with Ralle. I appolagize but I cannot, and yes it is forever.

 

[Vengeancekael]

All entries have been added as a .rar to the main post.

 

[HammerFist132]

Want to ask something voters (i know to someone will unerstand me wrong). Do u play all enteries before voting (this is part when someone will understand me wrong). Because I just want to know for ex.for last mapping contest I couldnt play all enteries, I played about 5 and I voted for best of them.

 

[APproject]

@HammerFist132 Yes, I played all of the maps.

I'm voting for Kino, I enjoyed his music pick, story, gameplay. It seemed to represent the highest quality for me here.

Although I did not vote for rulerofiron99, but I must say he did a very good job too in my opinion, it did give a true feeling of a dungeon.

 

[Kino]

I'm voting for Kino, I enjoyed his music pick, story, gameplay. It seemed to represent the highest quality for me here.

I feel honored.

 

[SA Dashie]

I haven't quite got around to playing all of the entries although at the moment I am thinking about voting for Kino. A well done map.
Even though I would make some changes myself I like it never the less.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Hammerfist, u have my vote!
Btw good job to all of u!

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

Hey, I hate being a pain in the ass, but when are the results coming?

 

[Vengeancekael]

baassee and Lordkoon are both reviewing the entries, so be patient for at least a week.

 

[rulerofiron99]

So many arrow key maps :/

Kino's was well polished, but I didn't really like the combat style, and it didn't feel like a dungeon (although the terrain was excellent).

I'm giving my vote to HammerFist132, for overall good terrain and content.

 

[HammerFist132]

Hello everibodi xD. I wasnt at home last few days, was hunting apples with my grandfather xD, so I gona test them now. Btw thx for support ruler and sin

EDIT:Here is my description:
Kino, what to say it is cool map, but one life man? Also no defeat condition, first boss impossible to me. Map terrain is done rly cool with out spamming doodads. Also like what rulerofiron99 have told, it doesnt bring me feling of some dungeon.
EDIT2:
Matija97, map is good, including terrain, spells and systems. I also had bug to main dragon leaves area and I couldnt finish the game. Also using dragon for main boss in dungeon with so short roof is not good idea(my thinking), also last boss mostly do not chase me, he only cast spells when I get near enough. U have bring me feeling of dungeon btw xD.

 

[Lordkoon]

I keep searching for credit lists in very unnatural places. Whoever didn't include credit list will automatically recieve -7 points from me. (Altho credits are 'a must' for all maps on the hive so a disqualification is more of a 'following the rules thing', but I guess everyone is too sloppy and doesnt care of such things anymore...it's disgusting and discouraging me to continue my entry evaluations/ If a submission does not follow the map submission rules the creator will be disqualified - Pharaoh's rules for the contest)
Thus far results are looking grim. I actually had to edit some of the entries to make them playable for my computer, which may I say is not a bad mashine.

 

[HammerFist132]

I did care, but I rly had no time to do it, u know I have done my map in last two minutes.I agree with -7 points for credits, I have earn them . Good idea even because I haven't write them.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Now why exactly -7?

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Is it not enough if credits are in the Hive description?

 

[rulerofiron99]

Is it not enough if credits are in the Hive description?

That's fine; usually one of the first places someone looks.

 

[Lordkoon]

Now why exactly -7?

Because I find it a very (the most) important thing to do along with presentation. But removing more points would pretty much nullify a whole criteria which is not build on a single requirement.
But I am worried at how much are contests needed if nobody actually follows the rules about them (for example 'maps must be presented with screenshots and short description' is almost never done) and as it seems nobody cares to punish them...


My results will come a bit later than I previously announsed because of the hard time I am having with some of them.

 

[SA Dashie]

Updates on the judging progress would be nice feedback for the contestants. :3

 

[rulerofiron99]

Lordkoon initially estimated he'd be done on the 17th, later stating that it might be a few more days based on the maps.

No word from the other judge afaik.

We should have the results within the next few days, I'm guessing.

 

[Lordkoon]

Sadly with each passing map it gets more and more hard for me to find the good sides to describe along with the negatives... Some just need A LOT of polishing, others are just made by lazy persons. I hope nobody will get my judging personal, because it's not. A few more days for my results and I will hop them here in the topic. I would like to see if someone feels he is being judged unfair or wants to open my eyes on something. ( for example credits lists, I cant find them anywhere on some of the maps... I was just hoping I might be missing them and they are somewhere there. The guys with 130+ imports should know what am I talking about)

 

[Vengeancekael]

Would it be okay for you to send me the reviews first for initial reviewing? Just one would be enough.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Sadly with each passing map it gets more and more hard for me to find the good sides to describe along with the negatives... Some just need A LOT of polishing, others are just made by lazy persons. I hope nobody will get my judging personal, because it's not. A few more days for my results and I will hop them here in the topic. I would like to see if someone feels he is being judged unfair or wants to open my eyes on something. ( for example credits lists, I cant find them anywhere on some of the maps... I was just hoping I might be missing them and they are somewhere there. The guys with 130+ imports should know what am I talking about)

From my side, feel free to be as frank as necessary. I barely worked on my entry the final two weeks of the contest, so I know it greatly lacks in polish and single-player aspects.

 

[SA Dashie]

You might want to actually note that in map you are meant to be near clueless about whats happening, or else it would ruin the game-play. And for anyone who wants to know the credits are at the end of my map.

 

[Lordkoon]

You might want to actually note that in map you are meant to be near clueless about whats happening, or else it would ruin the game-play. And for anyone who wants to know the credits are at the end of my map.

If you check the terraining map packs(UTM) you will notice each import is having its creator in the triggers menu. ''Credits: -Kobas- for the terraining map pack is just like leaving me a phone number to your secretary...'' It's like writing credits to Ralle for having this site to host the imports...

2 days later I am still completely clueless about your map. Can you give me some hints? The atmosphere is great and the filters are used nicely but no instruction, no quest log, no nothing... I am supposed to be clueless about whats going on? I think it's too much.
I can't believe people consider 1-2 tiny rooms to be labled as dungeons.



Q for Aeroblyctos: How do I start the fights in your map? Pathing blockers at start? Do I have to open in world editor and put heroes next to bosses and save/test it? You just can't be that lazy...it's impossible. I hope I am missing something.

 

[APproject]

Q for Aeroblyctos: How do I start the fights in your map? Pathing blockers at start? Do I have to open in world editor and put heroes next to bosses and save/test it? You just can't be that lazy...it's impossible. I hope I am missing something.

It is being said by text messages, you have to type certain word to start it. Open log for it or restart the map to see the text.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

In the beginning of game there's a text read it. It clearly says "-next" to start.

 

[SA Dashie]

If you check the terraining map packs(UTM) you will notice each import is having its creator in the triggers menu. ''Credits: -Kobas- for the terraining map pack is just like leaving me a phone number to your secretary...'' It's like writing credits to Ralle for having this site to host the imports...

Actually I did check for import credits. I know that half of the imports I used where from WoW, so I also thought that you didn't need to credit blizzard(guess I should off for such imports like this). The other half.. Well idk the models where never realy properly credited, and yes I checked triggers, the page where I downloaded the map and any other possibly places and I found no such thing.
I only credited -Kobas- because he was the only credible one that I could find to actually add to the credits for imports....

2 days later I am still completely clueless about your map. Can you give me some hints? The atmosphere is great and the filters are used nicely but no instruction, no quest log, no nothing... I am supposed to be clueless about whats going on? I think it's too much.
I can't believe people consider 1-2 tiny rooms to be labled as dungeons.

Use your claws. Useful for soft spots.

 

[Lordkoon]

In the beginning of game there's a text read it. It clearly says "-next" to start.

Sorry about that. I must have missed it. Your bosses sure have a habit of returning to their original location... Guard Distance, return distance, needed to be increased quite a lot.

Ok DeathChef, didn't you use the Ultimate terraining map , apart from the blizz dragon (which in order to be used has to be ripped by someone, who should be credited; after all there are websites focusing entirely on wow rips for their projects, but some of them are dead now so it could be impossible to credit anyway).

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Is it possible to increase specific unit guard distance? Or does it effect all units?

 

[Lordkoon]

As far as I know it affects them all. Perhaps someone with Jass understanding can tell if it's possible otherwise.

 

[Kino]

Ill be gone for the next two weeks.

If theres anything with my entry kindly ask now or wait until then.

 

[SA Dashie]

Nope all of the models are from a pack or two from -Kobas- that are WoW models and one from -Kobas- from one of his terraining contest entries(was a playable mapping contest) which he didn't credit. I also couldn't find any of the models that he used in that map. No UTM work here.

edit: @Aeroblyctos: doesn't the gaurd range just use acquisition range?
You can change this value in the object editor to under the combat section.
And can be used in GUI

• Actions
  • Unit - Set UNIT acquisition range to 9001.00

 

[Lordkoon]

Nope all of the models are from a pack or two from -Kobas- that are WoW models and one from -Kobas- from one of his terraining contest entries(was a playable mapping contest) which he didn't credit. I also couldn't find any of the models that he used in that map. No UTM work here.

edit: @Aeroblyctos: doesn't the gaurd range just use acquisition range?
You can change this value in the object editor to under the combat section.
And can be used in GUI

• Actions
  • Unit - Set UNIT acquisition range to 9001.00

Units will still return to their positinos.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Any update on your progress?

 

[Lordkoon]

Just a few more days. As the end of the month is near I need to focus on my job project, but hopefully will bring results untill that time.

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

Guys, it has almost been a month

 

[Lordkoon]

Guys, it has almost been a month

Have some little more patience please. Besides bassee must be missing somewhere, because he hasnt answered my mail from two days ago concerning an entry being disqualified. (TA TA TA TAAAAM)

 

[HammerFist132]

What entry?

 

[rulerofiron99]

Meh.

This is taking too long; I vote that Lordkoon be the only judge.

 

[Lordkoon]

One more entry remaining. That of Kino. The problem I have with it is that it is SO DAMN HARD that I have to give the hero some tweaks to solve bosses. The dynamic is like taken from ninja vs samuraj or some map like that that takes enormos amount of time to skill and master.

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

You know, I am really not a impatient guy. As a matter of fact, I am very patient. However, this really got annoying. Does it really take more than a month to rate eight maps?

 

[rulerofiron99]

You know, I am really not a impatient guy. As a matter of fact, I am very patient. However, this really got annoying. Does it really take more than a month to rate eight maps?

I share your concern, but at least it's clear our judge is doing a proper job of it.

Unlike the other judge that... well disappeared.

 

[Vengeancekael]

He is still working on the judging, he's just been busy with things.

 

[Lordkoon]

I am sorry you feel this way Matija97 but some of the maps are too large in content/imports/trigger bases/gameplay challanges and we need to play through ALL of them. I must confess the notes I take took me days to collect on some of the entries. While others are just too bad and make it hard for me just to think of the words to express it. My results will be ready within the next 2-3 days, I just need to add some reccomendations or notes on some of them but currently have no time to do so.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Bump.