[Cinematic] Cinematic Mini-Contest #1 Poll

[FamousPker49]

I must say, that I really liked the escape, because it is a completly different idea than all the others, and it seems like it is done very well, and I liked the terrain and the whole feel of it, nice job Raging!

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

The one I made was my first too.

 

[ghostus]

I watched all the cinematics and I voted for Waldbaer's "The Premonition". I won't give a Top 10 of all the maps, because this would be difficult to decide.
Most cinematics should have a Skip function and a own preview image. And the scorescreen should be disabled after the cinematic.
But these are the things I (didn't) like(d):

Deserted Revenge
+ Good terrain at Archmage
- But nearly no terrain in desert
+ Good special effects
- No effects on the doodads, the rocks could be destroyed if they are touched by a spell wave
- Every time I watched there was a different starting melody. You should define one.

Shoot the Naga
- No identical name in loading screen and in map description
- Good camera use, although it often didn't move.
+ Good music
+ Good special effects
+ I thought the dwarf would win so the own "sad" music at the end is quite good.

Haunted Goldmine
- No moving cameras
- I didn't like the custom sounds.
- Earth and sand textures in front of gold mine are not so good
- There's no terrain behind gold mine hill
- There's no terrain at the trees

Tainted Trial
+ Good loading text
- Too fast cameras at the beginning
+ Very good use of Special effects
- Too many imported models
+ Good music

OrcED
- No camera movement
+ Good terrain and doodads
- No end

End of the Curse
- Too loud music
+ Good use of special effects

The Escape
- No special effects
- Too dark

The Premonition
+ Good Terrain
+ Good Music
+ Falling rocks scene is good
- I thought the warrior would be killed because the wayfarer said it is dangerous.

Winter's Veil
+ Good special effects
+ Good sounds
- But no music
+ Good loading screen
- Not many doodads
- Too many imported models

The clone
- There is no sky
- There is no music

Awesome Robbery
- The loadingm screen is black
+ Good music
+ Good special effects

Short Cinematic
- No story
- There are not so many doodads
+ A good idea

 

[Jaakko]

If you turn the music on there is music in my map duh! And I didn't feel like spamming the area with doodads, I thought it would look cooler this way. Besides I think there is nothing wrong with imported models.

 

[ghostus]

You're right, there is music, but the music is quiet. It could be a little bit louder.

Of course it is good to have imported models, but they increase the map size and I think it is unfair for the others, because you didn't do the models, they were created by other people (I know that it was allowed to use models for the contest).

About the doodads: The bridge is only white. If you'd change the texture of it, it would look better.

And I don't want to say that your map is not good. They all (or most of them) are very good. I just wanted to give you a hint to make it better. It's my opinion and your decision to think if the hint is good.

 

[Restor]

I didnt make that music to be sad cos dwarf lost , it's just a good melody

If someone is interested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VbXEDDvzSo
this is the first part of the song (well, not originaly, these are two separated songs on the album but if you play second song (link below) it will continue melody from ending of this first)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k0PmZyRc5Q (and this is the second part I used)

 

[Nbah]

I dissagre, it doesn't matter if he didn't do the models and I think it's fair to others. It is allowed, which means that it was the author's choice not to use models. But that's my opinion. Oh and the bridge has textures for me.

 

[Waldbaer]

Hm, I don't know if using many custom models is unfair or not. If it's stated to be allowed, then it's allowed, but I personally think it makes the things just much more difficult to compare, because there are different ressources. That's not negative though, but I think it's not good for a contest because of the judging problem, but that's the Bob's problem at last!

@ghostus: Thanks for your vote and for the detailed comments!

@Jaako and others who play cinematic music as music: You see, there is another problem. As preset in Warcraft, the music is set to a much lower volume value than the sounds. It's not possible to get it louder than this user set limit as far as I know and then you get problems adjusting the volume balance. If you play the music as sounds, too, the user can use any setting he wants - if he has the sound turned on, he gets your complete mix.

 

[Jaakko]

The problem is solved if music is 100% and sounds 50%.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

You can use AS many models AS you want.There's no limit as long as it is a cinematic.

 

[Just_Spectating]

lawl i didnt even see this poll, anyway i know who im voting for

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

So....who you vote?

 

[Just_Spectating]

WALDBAER!!!!


+coolest battle ever.
+Seemed like a real movie
+Avalanche was too cool.
+jumping and the slash back was AWSOME
-the flashback was kind of.. =.-

10/10!

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

If there was minuses about the movie then how could it get a 10/10, that sort of rating just doesn't make any sense

 

[Just_Spectating]

because the - was so minuscule that i rounded it up to 10/10

 

[Waldbaer]

I have to thank for your lordliness! *bowing*

About the beginning... hm, I wanted to put some story into it and did not want to write everything on the loading screen (well, this is a cinematic and not a loading screen show, isn't it?). Just wanted to have some seconds of nothing to build up suspense and have a contrast to the fight. Although I'm not sure anymore if this was the right decision for a 1-minute cinematic... anyways probably I'd do it the same way again. I don't like cinematics with action where you don't know anything about the characters who are fighting; with the beginning, you should at least know a little.

 

[I need a name]

Cinematic Review

I'm voting Winter's Veil, it was my favorite overall.

 

[Just_Spectating]

psh, WaldBaer deserves this all the way IMO

 

[Waldbaer]

I don't want to say anything against this, but it's good that people's opinions are always different. That makes things much more interesting!
And my cinematic is not the only one that would deserve a prize if you watch it seperately from the contest, that's the best.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Different opinions in a poll is always good.I think nearly everybody made a great cienmatic.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i must be that one nearly person that wasnt good

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Ehm...I haven't seen your cinematic so I can't criticize.

 

[Waldbaer]

Ts ts ts, how could you miss that!
Anyways watch it. It's not the best one in the contest, this may be, but maybe you like it nevertheless. Hey, it's just a minute of your time! And you are the one calling himself "Map tester"...

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Ahh, things are not looking good, you are gaining in on me, Waldbaer

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Ts ts ts, how could you miss that!
Anyways watch it. It's not the best one in the contest, this may be, but maybe you like it nevertheless. Hey, it's just a minute of your time! And you are the one calling himself "Map tester"...

Oh,I am just bored of downloading them

 

[Just_Spectating]

Go WaldBaer! 8 more votes and you win!

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Why would he win if he received 8 more votes? Bob27 is the judge and is going to distribute points on different aspects of each cinematic such as terrain quality, camera control and so on.

 

[Just_Spectating]

he wins the public poll

 

[Kwaliti]

Public Poll takes a low percentage in scores.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Yeah,we will have to wait for the winner.

 

[Waldbaer]

Ahh, things are not looking good, you are gaining in on me, Waldbaer

Hey you just got again two additional votes, so don't be scared!

 

[Nbah]

I hate public polls. As if the whole public poll structure is lies.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i personally think that the public poll is most important. Because it shows how many people liked the movie rather than some "who wins" because of scores

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

The combination of both a public poll and judge votes is fine by me, Bob27 should be qualified to make the right judgement calls.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Bob27 will be the only judge?

 

[Bob27]

Bob27 will be the only judge?

Yea, I thought that since this was just a mini-contest there was no real need to get a huge group of judges to judge it, and just one judge would be fine.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Ok,then.It's fine.

 

[w3mapmaker]

my vote

I liked the Premonition the best.

It was well rounded with both story-telling and a battle sequence.

Well done!

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Ehm...you made your first post just to vote for him?

 

[Kitabatake]

Ehm...you made your first post just to vote for him?

He isn't the only one to do so (example). Also some of the people that voted have 0 posts and one of them even created his account one day after the poll was created.

Either newcomers are very interested in voting or then some people want some extra votes...

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

I should have voted for Kitabatake.

 

[Bob27]

Well before I add the poll's result to my scores, I will be searching every IP for every user that voted, and will make sure that no one created an account to vote for themselves.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

So,everything's all right?

 

[Bob27]

Haven't checked all of the users yet, but I haven't found any users created by an author yet. I'll be sure to have checked them all by the end of the poll though.

 

[Just_Spectating]

ppssstt bob, give Waldbaer 10000 points XD jk, everyone did a super nice jobb and the winner totally deserves it, you should add their name next to the cinematic they made, i cant tell who made what. but who made "The Escape" wins the public vote and the first time i saw it i was O.O (woah)

 

[PurgeandFire]

Well, I'm back and ready! I was gone, I know... For like a month or so... Then I re-installed Warcraft and I had patching problems... But now I'm back! Woot!

So far I only watched Jaakko's. Great cinematic, but try to have the farZ smaller. If it is high, it will probably be the main thing that causes lag.

 

[Jaakko]

But there is no way to test does it lag because for me it does not lag.

 

[Waldbaer]

You just need to get a slower computer...
Anyways, if you don't need 10000 farZ, you should always take it down as much as possible, PurgeandFire is right concerning this. Smaller than 5000 is not necessary, but 10000 really should only be chosen if there is no other way, since it needs a MUCH faster computer to be displayed fluently (the war3engine is just not optimized to display such big areas).

 

[Kwaliti]

Soooo, is this thing still going?

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Bob27 should be done with judging soon.