Mini-mapping Contest #9 - Map Size Limited

[Filmting]

Another playable WiP: http://www.epicwar.com/maps/243369/

 

[rulerofiron99]

Added damage, knockback, and a horde of peons that want to die.

 

[Brambleclaw]

this is my pure idea, Idk there is any game like this before.. well, it's indeed impossible to find something new today

Jump? for what? that will makes the gameplay less practice (harder control). Thanks for advices anyway

EDIT:

I dont get how could it be spammy? have tried to give some cooldown and it become so boring as hell

EDIT2:
indeed spammy, but who cares when you have fun with it?

Jump skill as in dodge ---

Spammy games don't have much replayability factor because they are just button mashing.

That's why some variation would be nice

 

[Cokemonkey11]

Instead of complaining about how difficult it was to find a good movement system, why don't you work smarter? Abstract away technical details so you're left with human factors. Here's a decent example: https://github.com/vikev/SDP/blob/master/trunk/PC/PCControl/src/sdp/pc/vision/FutureBall.java#L107

If you think you've done something unbelievable, original, or technically impressive, think again. If you don't want criticism, don't ask for opinions.

That's all from me on this topic.

 

[rulerofiron99]

No one is attacking you or trying to be arrogant. People just have different opinions. Just because someone doesn't like something as much as you, doesn't mean they hate you or think your work is bad.

How dare I say "quite nice"? "Nice" is a positive term. Nice is good. "Quite" means a bit more than nice, so overall a positive opinion, so I really don't understand how that offends you.

Are you expecting me to say your map is awesome, best thing I've ever seen? Unfortunately, I've seen many maps like this. I've seen (and made!) many sliding systems over the many years I've been a mapper, and more than anything I value creative new things. That's precisely why I say your thing is nice: you've been creative and made this sliding system without copying it from someone else.

I've attached a map I made and abandoned a while back. It features a sliding system. I'm not saying my system is better than yours, just showing you that sliding systems have been made before.

 

[Kazeon]

If you think you've done something unbelievable, original, or technically impressive, think again.

I was not saying it's incredible discovery but just to tell how hard was my work, how lucky was me, and how proud am I about my work, so please, read again..

why don't you work smarter?

of course I have searched around for it but didn't find any, so do you think I'm real stupid to work on it alone without any reason?

erm, okay, I'm enough with off-topic

EDIT:
"quite nice" => half of nice
and sorry for that post, I should not say it here..

I've attached a map I made and abandoned a while back. It features a sliding system. I'm not saying my system is better than yours, just showing you that sliding systems have been made before.

thank you, and I know about it. Sorry I was tempered up..

 

[Cokemonkey11]

http://www.macmillandictionaryblog.com/the-trickiest-word-in-american

See attached sliding maps, circa 2009.

I understand you worked hard on your map, and don't claim to be amazing, but people are offering constructive criticism, which I agree with; even if it was nonconstructive, douchy comments like "your map is utter shite" - you still shouldn't respond with such aggressive, defensive behaviour.

 

[Kazeon]

http://www.macmillandictionaryblog.com/the-trickiest-word-in-american
that's a quite good link thank you "quite" is indeed so tricky which over-tempered me up D: sorry for misunderstanding, I did not know that "quite" has two different meanings.


okay, back to work guys

 

[Tickles]

WIP:

I know the terrain is very lacking at the moment

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Oh wow Tickles, that's gorgeous!

 

[rulerofiron99]

Looking good as always, Tickles. Reminds me of Binding of Isaac - I'm assuming you'll be doing generated rooms?

 

[bajaist]

Here's another WIP from me. It's still early work, but i like it so far. Use left/right arrows to move, press and hold up arrow for jump, and double press and hold up arrow for higher jump.

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

OMFG TICKLES! Trigger-generated dungeon was my idea

 

[Heinvers]

WIP:

I know the terrain is very lacking at the moment

That's awesome.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Having loads of fun making the different options for the boulders.

I wasn't planning to make it multiplayer, but since I'm having quite a lot of fun I'll probably have to go fix my code to make it work for more than singleplayer.

As you can see from the upgrade system, upgrades don't replace your current attack. Instead they adjust the values, so there are plenty of unique attack types you can make from this based on which upgrades your get.

e.g.
Rolling Stone + Concussive Rock = stuns units in a line
Bigger Boulders + Power Throw = high damage nuke
Avalanche + Shattering Impact (coming soon) = wide area of effect damage

I'll include a testmap again when I've added the wave mechanic... wouldn't want the boulders to get boring too quickly

 

[GreeN!X]

rulerofiron and tickles: Nice WIPs


Just a question that popped into my mind though. What if a user decides to make a cinematic map? Free points in the gameplay category?

 

[Kazeon]

my entry has been finished, still wont say it's final though (link) and it's still being optimized...

 

[Strydhaizer]

my entry has been finished, still wont say it's final though (link) and it's still being optimized...

Correct me if im wrong , but i think its not allowed to optimize/protect the map.

Be noted that all final entries should be a none-optimized version of your map so that judges can take a look at triggers for many issues that may arise. Optimized final entries will lead to disqualification.

 

[Tal'Rarity]

my entry has been finished, still wont say it's final though (link) and it's still being optimized...

If it stays optimized and the entry date is finished then you will be facing a few issues Dalvengyr. Just one question, why?

OMFG TICKLES! Trigger-generated dungeon was my idea

( more of a lazy issue on my end I think though... ) I never have been able to beat Tickles in these contests. =)
Good luck MaTiJa97, he usually picks the best(Near Best sometimes) idea's as well.

 

[GywGod133]

Tickles Nc WIP

And Good Luck to me and all Contestants

 

[WaerercraftKillers]

Mah entry!

heres my priview of my entry, BTW the map name is X Island tag team battle.

Download below, This is not my final entry its Very WIP.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Damn, the contest is getting more interesting with so much awesome WIPs. It's going to be a tough one!

 

[Kazeon]

That's awesome.

if everything you guys care about is just "visual" (which mostly that's indeed the fact), then there is never a chance for coder like me to win something like this. What I offer in my entry is the polished and solid yet unique gameplay, but if no one even try to enjoy the game, then it's just pointless, my style doesn't fit this site.

 

[Heinvers]

Did I say something?

 

[Kazeon]

I meant it's not only you but every people..

if everything you guys care about

 

[GywGod133]

heres my priview of my entry, BTW the map name is X Island tag team battle.

Download below, This is not my final entry its Very WIP.

Cool...

 

[rulerofiron99]

I meant it's not only you but every people..

I hope you're not including me in that. As I've stated earlier, I value creativity (functional creativity mostly) and gameplay above aesthetics.

Tickles' entries usually have a strong focus in gameplay and novelty, with the amount of looks just a result of the amount of polish he puts into them. Top-down arrow key-controlled dungeon crawlers have been done before, but Tickles brings strong visual design and polish to it, which I think is why people call it awesome.

I do somewhat agree that most Hivers prefer looks to coding, but strong coding allows for gameplay that good terraining simply cannot make. But at the end of the day, a combination of good looks, coding and game design always succeeds over specialisation. Just remember, opinions.

 

[Heinvers]

But at the end of the day, a combination of good looks, coding and game design always succeeds over specialisation.

I somehow agree.

 

[Kazeon]

well, we still got some judges which will give scores precisely & objectively..

anyway, I really dont have idea what kind of doodads that will fits arctic environment nicely :/ I have tried to add some snowy trees but it doesn't improve the visual a bit..

 

[eubz]

Correct me if im wrong , but i think its not allowed to optimize/protect the map.

Optimizing map uploaded in the map section is OK but the final entry should be a none-optimized version.

 

[rulerofiron99]

You can add different types of ice/snow. This can also affect gameplay, if you change the friction/acceleration/braking numbers for each terrain type.

Doodads:
Rock - Stops movement, reflects projectiles
Tree - Destroyed on projectile impact, stops movement

You should focus most of your terraining efforts on the area around the arena. Make some glaciers, ice walls, mountains, ice floes, marine life, etc. Go look in the terraining forum for examples of icy terrains.

And meanwhile on my end, I'm about to start terraining and I've just lost all interest :/

 

[WaerercraftKillers]

Cool...

Thanks. BTW making the waves now, and the boss mech.

 

[rulerofiron99]

well, we still got some judges which will give scores precisely & objectively..

anyway, I really dont have idea what kind of doodads that will fits arctic environment nicely :/ I have tried to add some snowy trees but it doesn't improve the visual a bit..

Another thing: in past contests, single-player maps have always done better than multiplayer, simply because it's hard to find people to play with. Maybe you could improve the single-player experience by adding some SP-only challenges and different enemies to fight.

 

[Kazeon]

here is an update. With some minor visual improvements, improved AI, and many others..

 

[Filmting]

A preview/showcase video of the map:

Edit: Another playable WiP
http://www.epicwar.com/maps/243412/

 

[Kazeon]

guys, I'm really sorry about what was happening here, sorry for discomfortness, sorry about my immaturity, anything. I feel so terrible D: Once again I'm sorry

 

[Rheiko]

don't worry about it, just make sure to keep your cool next time

 

[GreeN!X]

A preview/showcase video of the map:

So a boss fight arena? Cool. Though I hope you'll add a difficulty feature there. Maybe adjust the difficulty to the number of players so that your map can be played in multiplayer too. Also, maybe move dropped items in the arena to the resurrection area when everyone dies? I think it would be a real hassle if I'd have to go back for my items just to sell em.

I don't like the idea of the boss guide, but that's just my opinion. There are times that I'd like to figure out things on my own and have that guide one click away will really tempt a player like me. :/

Anyway, cool progress there Filmting.

 

[Filmting]

Not really a guide on how to deal with the boss but a description of what the bosses abilities does.

 

[GreeN!X]

I know, but that's still a huge advantage imo. The replay feature could be utilized by the player to figure out the boss' skills and weaknesses, it's fun to figure those things out... but I guess that's just probably my taste when it comes to boss fights.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Perhaps a compromise - the description of what the boss does is only added to the quest log after a failed attempt.

My progress:
- Made leveling system. When you level up, 2-4 random abilities are added to your skill selection screen.
- Added the first few waves and basic enemy behaviour.

 

[Filmting]

Thats a brilliant idea rulerofiron, might do that.

 

[eubz]

@Filmting
Can you make a short video of some random entries after the deadline? Something we could show to the people in the poll thread of this contest.

 

[Filmting]

Maybe, would like to, properly not

 

[kari0003]

I'd love to do that once the contest is over. If i have the time.

Especially with the multiplayer maps, maybe playing with the creators and judges.

I really think it would be a good idea to make some sort of event after the contest with the judges so they can test out a version of the map when its fullhouse.
Funmap evenings would be a good ground for creating videos of this sort.

My suggestion is that contact with Waterknight and ask him if he would host a funmap evening including the multiplayer maps of the contest.

This would be both helpful for the judges, and a fun thing to do

 

[rulerofiron99]

Excellent idea, it should definitely level the playing field between single and multi player maps.

Time to fix my code for MP!

EDIT: Attached is playable up to 8 waves. Have a bash and let me know how it goes. Besides the missile system, it's more or less a regular defense map.

 

[GreeN!X]

Eubz, that last one wasn't a WIP. REED EET. D:

Anyway, this one is. Will be the first and last screeny for my new map. I know these screenies are empty but this is just for the sake of the WIP thing. Doodads are generated ingame.

The Mirror Lied

The Mirror Lied

The Mirror Lied will probably last about 15-30 minutes and is single player.

 

[Daffa]

I'd love to do that once the contest is over. If i have the time.

Especially with the multiplayer maps, maybe playing with the creators and judges.

I really think it would be a good idea to make some sort of event after the contest with the judges so they can test out a version of the map when its fullhouse.
Funmap evenings would be a good ground for creating videos of this sort.

My suggestion is that contact with Waterknight and ask him if he would host a funmap evening including the multiplayer maps of the contest.

This would be both helpful for the judges, and a fun thing to do

That would be fun, but is it possible to play during day (or evening, which ever Eubz prefer) for GMT + 8? (Philippines and Indonesian [Middle] Timezone)

That's what is I'm concerned about, since I'm on that Timezone (and yeah, no midnight gaming allowed here, so yeah.)

 

[Kazeon]

actually, I got a pretty nice rock texture here, please take a look. but sadly you just can't enjoy it in-game

 

[GywGod133]

actually, I got a pretty nice rock texture here, please take a look. but sadly you just can't enjoy it in-game

xD its traces of nuclear explosion