[FINISHED] Spells&Systems Mini-Contest #13

[-Berz-]

Yea, GL and may the best spell wins.

 

[Herman]

Yarr, contest closed, results will be up in a few.

Uhh.... fuck








<too late, I wish I could've joined this, 15 character limit makes for little messages>

 

[Volvox]

Same here, too much school screwed me on this one.

 

[GhostWolf]

I am simply lazy.

I made like 80% of my spell and then lazed my way out (as in - I was too lazy to finish it)

 

[Just_Spectating]

GL everyone

 

[marven15]

OMG this is so intense...

 

[PurplePoot]

Partway through the judging, it's hell on this comp (which seems to not like life).

Anyways, donut, I can't run your spell map...

 

[donut3.5]

Hmm, should work.. Works for me. Are you opening it from testing in NewGen? That's what I'm doing.
--donut3.5--

 

[PurplePoot]

I'm opening it directly from WarCraft. My current (terrible) computer decided to be stupid and (among other things) freeze when I attempt to use Test Map, so I have to load maps that way.

I guess I'll try opening it in NewGen, saving it, then opening WarCraft and running it.

 

[donut3.5]

Yeah, for some reason when I try and open it from Warcraft 3 it wont let me, however NewGen will let me test it. I don't know what the cause of it could be.
Actually, I just tested it in NewGen's Warcraft 3 (the shortcut that comes in the pack) and it worked fine.
--donut3.5--

 

[Herman]

Offtopic

I hate those little bugs you gotta deal with when your using NewGen

I dislike the little thing it does when it deletes all of the code for setting the start units... thats annoying, and you gotta run it via normal warcraft, but you also need to save it with your regular WE

 

[Just_Spectating]

so when are the scores going to be posted?

 

[PurplePoot]

I've got to get to finishing them, definitely this weekend sometime.

 

[Just_Spectating]

cool .

 

[marven15]

-Sits in a cozy chair waiting patiently for the results while reading a magazine.-

 

[Eccho]

Yea, would be great if it is presented on Sunday; Its my bday then (15min til happy me=)

 

[-Berz-]

I'm just clicking and checking this thread, but nothing new happens :S

 

[spiwn]

Yes it's like that
Anyway this is a great way to learn this part of map making. In the process of making my spell I learned so much(I almost started doing triggers(GUI or Jass) with it). Found out so much things that leak(by myself or from this forum) and ways to fix them. And even after optimizing my map there are so many leeks left

 

[marven15]

Yeah I already considered myself a winner because I learned some stuffs about Jass. That's a lot for me. ^^

 

[Herman]

Yeah, I remember my old maps, I went to go optimize one of them that was done totally in GUI

I was like ... ... ... ... ... ... ... fuck that...

 

[PurplePoot]

I'm just clicking and checking this thread, but nothing new happens :S[/quote}I'm working on them, I might stay up a bit late and get them all done tonight

 

[-Berz-]

ql, I'm looking forward and yea i learned something too i didnt know what for each integer A actiones are for :S, but anyway i make spells for fun, mostly because of the effects (i like the pimped up spells)

 

[Eccho]

Oh noes, my bday has expired. no winner submission in time oO

 

[-Berz-]

ooo... Happy(late)Bday, and may all your wishes come true!

 

[Herman]

function X takes integer i, integer j returns boolean
    return i==j
endfunction

Is better than the one below ._.

function X takes integer i, integer j returns boolean
    if (i==j) then return true
    else return false
    endif

I noticed your signature

Thats a bit of a newbie mistake, the "==" operator actually returns a boolean all in its own, sort of like a function

and the syntax for return is...

return <boolean>

And the if-thens...

if <boolean> then
    <actions>
endif

Which is nice to know if you'd like to optimize your code (not putting <some boolean> == true and such)

 

[Volvox]

His signature is okay, you know. i==j is a boolean and returning it directly is lovely and useful. Checking a boolean opetarion in order to return a boolean operation, that is idiotic. What he has in his sig is completely correct. Btw, can't wait to see the results.

 

[Herman]

His signature is okay, you know. i==j is a boolean and returning it directly is lovely and useful. Checking a boolean opetarion in order to return a boolean operation, that is idiotic. What he has in his sig is completely correct. Btw, can't wait to see the results.

/whisper< I was explaining why his post was correct>

 

[-Berz-]

lol i took this picture yesterday, but i forgot to submit it (1337 views)

 

[Eccho]

Yea I noticed that some are using the last one mentioned, and that blizzard uses that sometimes too oO

oh and hah, views 1337... -.-

 

[Volvox]

I misunderstood you Herman, sorry... 1337 XD

 

[Herman]

I'm thinking I might wanna go play some CS now... hmm...

 

[spiwn]

And counting

 

[Just_Spectating]

so much anxiety just waiting for PP to post some results!

 

[PurplePoot]

Eh, this S&S marking ended up being delayed quite a bit due to a mixture of procrastination, business with other things (such as a big Philosophy paper), and the fact that there was such a huge turnout compared to normal.

Anyways, I hereby grant you the right to e-slap me if I don't get them finished by Wednesday, 12:00 AM, EST, because I really have nothing to do tomorrow.

I'm rather too braindead to finish them at the moment, which is the same reason I did not do so yesterday night (It would've majorly skewed the marking).

 

[Herman]

Yeah I often have that problem, fearing my own brain's weakness at the moment to skew anything I may need it for

 

[Just_Spectating]

oh well, 2 days of anxiety.

 

[marven15]

-while sitting in his cozy couch, he reached back on his seat to get a giant wooden plank which is intendedly used for slapping. Spark of Insanity emits from his eyes-

Just kidding...

 

[PurplePoot]

Ugh, I actually had a decent reason to miss the marking yesterday - the site died about half an hour after I got home and thus I couldn't actually get most of the spells I needed to mark.

 

[Eccho]

Isn't that just typical poot._. (nothing offensive at all)

Its soon time for slapping you anyway

 

[spiwn]

Umm you haven't gotten the spells you wanted at the time of closing

 

[PurplePoot]

Umm you haven't gotten the spells you wanted at the time of closing

Actually, I deleted them when I was trying to get donut's spell to load, to get rid of the majority of 'Just Another Warcraft III Map's, and also so that when I re-downloaded them to look at the code I would actually know whose spell was whose easily.

I didn't count on the site dying.

 

[spiwn]

Yeah, it's just great to have a lot of maps with the same name in wc3
Glad mine was not one of them
And what I meant was that this way someone actually could have edited his entry after the closing, but I doubt someone did

 

[PurplePoot]

And what I meant was that this way someone actually could have edited his entry after the closing, but I doubt someone did

It would say "This post was last edited on XXX date".

Results almost done, only two more spells to mark as of now!

EDIT: Here we are

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DiscipleOfLife - Torturing Frenzy

• Idea: 5/5 points
  
  A good, original idea​
• Triggering: 10/10 points
  
  A great job with the script, as usual.​
• Overall Aspect: 5/5 points
  
  I can't think of a game type that uses heroes in which this would not be a practical spell. Additionally, It has an easily understood and informative tooltip, a fitting icon, and is simple enough to not confuse new users.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects were not fancy, but stood out and clearly indicated the spell's presence. The Cripple buff art fit the spell's idea well.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell matched the theme as best as any could hope to.​
• Total: 28/28 points
  
  Definitely one of your best pieces of work. This spell is a great example of how to make a spell that isn't boringly simple on the inside, isn't horrifically overcomplicated on the outside, is original, and fits well no matter where it is put. This spell definitely deserved a perfect score.​

spiwn - Shadow Rip

• Idea: 5/5 points
  
  A good, original idea​
• Triggering: 5/10 points
  
  BJs were excessively used, when they can be easily avoided in Jass. The spell was not MUI, and many leaks were present. While there were configuration options, they were not public or private in a scope/library, nor (alternatively) were they prefixed with the spell's name, and thus they could conflict with other implemented spells with the same problems. Waits were used in cases where timers would serve the situation far better, due to the inaccuracy of the former.​
• Overall Aspect: 4/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. However, the tooltip was somewhat hard to follow, due to its somewhat disconnected nature as well as the amount of information attempted to give.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell rather well.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell matched the theme well.​
• Total: 22/28 points
  
  The spell in general was done fairly well, but the coding could really use a lot of work.​

-BerZeKer- - Taste of Death

• Idea: 4/5 points
  
  The nova idea was rather cliché, but the rest was original.​
• Triggering: 6/10 points
  
  There were many uncleaned leaks in the spell. A unit group (GroupVar) only executed for one unit, since you cleared it inside the loop. The A Unit Is Attacked event was used in an easily abusable situation, which should also be fixed.​
• Overall Aspect: 4/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. However, the tooltip was somewhat hard to follow, due to its somewhat disconnected nature as well as the rather broken grammar, and lack of provision of several statistics (The damage, for example).​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell well.​
• Theme: 2/3 points
  
  The spell matched the theme well, except for the healing effect - in many cases, it made the spell lack a double edge.​
• Total: 21/28 points
  
  The spell in general was done moderately well, with some room to improve in almost every category. However, that which needs the most work is the Triggering.​

Eccho - Soul Exhaustion

• Idea: 3/5 points
  
  The spell was rather like a souped-up locust swarm.​
• Triggering: 5/10 points
  
  'Global locals' were used in unneeded cases, which should be avoided since they can be unstable under various circumstances. Additionally, some of the capitalisation between the globals and locals did not match, thus defeating the purpose. Also, only one 'Global Local' can work stably per trigger. The use of Custom Value can cause this spell to conflict with many maps. Also, while most leaks were cleaned, (Entire Map) leaks to my knowledge (It appears to create a new rect). The spell was not MUI.​
• Overall Aspect: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell well.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell matched the theme well.​
• Total: 21/28 points
  
  The spell in general was done decently, but the triggering mainly could use improvement.​

raft_pl - Dark Explosion

• Idea: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was rather original.​
• Triggering: 8/10 points
  
  A ridiculous number of array indexes were allocated to achieve MPI, which wastes memory. Additionally, the spell was not MUI. Otherwise, the coding was decent.​
• Overall Aspect: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell well.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell matched the theme well.​
• Total: 26/28 points
  
  The spell was generally well done. I suggest you look into making things totally MUI in the future.​

marven15 - Mirage

• Idea: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was fairly original.​
• Triggering: 7/10 points
  
  Way more locals were used than necessary. Locations were used where they were rather unnecessary, and coordinates should have been used instead. Structs are far safer than Handle Vars, and should be used when available. There were a few leaks present. ==true was used in redundant situations. Some functions (like SetUnitState) could be replaced by more efficient ones (in this example, for the life, SetWidgetLife). Finally, some BJs were used.​
• Overall Aspect: 4/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. The tooltip was rather long-winded, however, and could get the reader lost fairly easily.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell well.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell fit the theme well.​
• Total: 24/28 points
  
  The spell was fairly well done. When using Jass, be sure to exploit all its advantages, and the same with vJass!​

Just_Spectating - Dark Sector

• Idea: 3/5 points
  
  The spell was basically a variable damage Fan of Knives.​
• Triggering: 7/10 points
  
  Simple formulae could replace trees of if-statements. Additionally, some actions in these if-trees could be moved outside them to reduce trigger length. Many triggers (FX21/FX22/FX23) could have been combined. An array was unneeded and wasted memory.​
• Overall Aspect: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. The tooltip was short and informative.​
• Visual Effects: 3/5 points
  
  The visual effects were rather overkill, clogging up vision.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell fit the theme well.​
• Total: 21/28 points
  
  The spell was fairly decently done, however, the triggering, theme, and visuals could all have used some revision.​

Ciebron - Orb of Darkness

• Idea: 1/5 points
  
  The spell was basically a variable damage shockwave, and was also almost exactly like DotA's such spell on Keeper of the Light.​
• Triggering: 7/10 points
  
  You inlined TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ by using another BJ, this one being called 16 times instead of once! vJass should be used for passing data through timers since the Handle Vars are known to be unstable rather randomly, sometimes, which can lead to bad consequences. You leak triggeractions. Locals are overused in some cases. Ball_Move and Ball_Damage should be combined for efficiency.​
• Overall Aspect: 4/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. The tooltip lacked much information.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell fit the theme well.​
• Total: 20/28 points
  
  The spell was fairly well done, but the idea was rather unoriginal. The Jass was fairly good but could use work.​

donut3.5 - Haunting of the Damned

• Idea: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was original.​
• Triggering: 9/10 points
  
  Locals were slightly overused. SetUnitX/Y should have been used instead of SetUnitPosition, for speed reasons. You leak dummies (those that cast the curses).​
• Overall Aspect: 5/5 points
  
  The spell was applicable in a variety of situations. The tooltip was concise and informative.​
• Visual Effects: 5/5 points
  
  The visual effects fit the spell.​
• Theme: 3/3 points
  
  The spell fit the theme well.​
• Total: 27/28 points
  
  The spell was quite well done, but watch out for leaks!​

 

[Eccho]

Wow dang, I sure lacking in my triggering =)
Anyway I suppose there are more spell contests coming up; then ill be back

Congratz to to DiscipleOfLife. It was indeed a very nice spell.
All other spells was ofcourse great as well._.

Hm should I protest? What do you really mean when you say the spell is not Mui?
My understanding of Mui has always been that it works for mupltiplayer with multiply players using it in the same time. Did I miss something here?
I thought my spell was mui, thus I tested it with some friends and it never occured any conflicts or bugs.

Anyway, Im glad I didnt won. Ill have better luck next time (hope it fits the theme im currently thinking of).
Ah speaking of next tme, when will that be? or am I not allowed to know that ^^?

/regards

 

[PurplePoot]

Wow dang, I sure lacking in my triggering =)

I probably should've given you 6, but I don't know, it was right on the edge.

Hm should I protest? What do you really mean when you say the spell is not Mui?
My understanding of Mui has always been that it works for mupltiplayer with multiply players using it in the same time. Did I miss something here?
I thought my spell was mui, thus I tested it with some friends and it never occured any conflicts or bugs.

MUI = Multi Unit Instanceable. Your spell was MPI, Multi Player Instanceable. MUI implies it is usable by an indefinite amount of units on the same player. Yours was not, due to the use of global arrays that worked by player number.

Ah speaking of next tme, when will that be? or am I not allowed to know that ^^?

You're not allowed to know that, since I don't either

 

[Just_Spectating]

GJ Dof

 

[PurplePoot]

On a sidenote, Disciple becomes the first person to have won more than once! Congrats to him!

 

[Eccho]

I probably should've given you 6, but I don't know, it was right on the edge.

MUI = Multi Unit Instanceable. Your spell was MPI, Multi Player Instanceable. MUI implies it is usable by an indefinite amount of units on the same player. Yours was not, due to the use of global arrays that worked by player number.

You're not allowed to know that, since I don't either

okay then everything seems fine
Ill think about that next time

Eccho obeys PurplePoot by jamming himself in the wall trying to inflict a such pure headache that Eccho never will use Mpi-only again, or globals, or Bj:s without thinking before he acts ...

That really hurts-.-

Edit: And yes once again congratz ^

 

[Just_Spectating]

lets go to the Spells&Systems Mini-Contest Thread everyone and decide the next theme!

 

[GhostWolf]

Congratulations DiscipleOfLife.
You all stop using GUI and expect to make MUI abilities, FOOLS !
Now go learn Jass and vJass and make awesome spells. This is an order !