Diablo III

[Anachron]

Agreed, won't use SC II Editor 'till it has OOP.

 

[Catch_ya]

'till it has OOP.

Agree.
Hope Vexorian will make it, lol. It could be possible if it is setup like the Warcraft 3 coding.

 

[redmarine]

Guys, please don't go Off-topic.

 

[Catch_ya]

Sorry for that.

 

[Berb]

Guys, please don't go Off-topic.

When I search The Hive Workshop for "Off-topic" your post comes up first.

Sorry for that.

Hey! No more off-topic! You damn kids and your radio!

 

[Gausslander]

If only the SC II Galaxy editor would be out...

Good things come to those who wait.

 

[syltman]

Stop the off-topic here ffs.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Yeh seriously. I hope our "problems" are now solved and we can stay on-topic.
And no more advertising of systems unless I ask for that ;P

Also I've now found a way to prevent units from attacking automatically.
I may release another version in a couple of days.

 

[Deolrin]

Awesome, definitely waiting.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Regarding the hotkeys. Do you want the keyboard keys to fit to the icon grid?

So "move" "stop" "hold position" and "attack" is
Q W E R ?
Though that's of course your choice as I cannot change these I would keep attack as "A" probably and set patrol to "R"

I'd then like to set the spells to SDFGH or SDFXC so they're easier to reach.

 

[arphax214]

ok nice dude thats my fav hotkey..^^

 

[Deolrin]

I'm kind of used to them at the moment to be honest. It's just a matter of practice.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Well I'd certainly like to keep them as they are. I think just switching the middle- and forefinger from DF to ER or C as it is currently is much better.
At least I prefer using especially these 2 fingers ;X

 

[Deolrin]

D and F(Blink and Arcane Orb, isn't it?) are the only two I really use.

 

[redmarine]

Well, I'd prefer QWER since they are closer to the WoW ability keyboard layout. It is simply just more natural especially on keyboards since you'll want to have your hand as far away from the center as possible.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Why? I think SDF ER CV are quite well placed for the left hand.
After all when typing correctly you should have your left hand on 'asdf' normally.

Edit: For those who are interested I could maybe add some script that can be added to the customkeys.txt
Guess that would be fine... :X

 

[redmarine]

Why? I think SDF ER CV are quite well placed for the left hand.
After all when typing correctly you should have your left hand on 'asdf' normally.

Edit: For those who are interested I could maybe add some script that can be added to the customkeys.txt
Guess that would be fine... :X

ERDSFCV would be quite confusing if they aren't arranged like the abilities themselves. It simply doesn't feel natural for me at least. If you choose QWER you'll only need to hold those buttons and nothing else. You don't need to move your fungers up and down between ERSDFCV. And it also resembles the cast key layout in World of WarCraft.

PS: you don't have to ruin any commands such as the stop button.

But then again, this is just my opinion.

 

[Berb]

Well that's why you don't use A, S, H, or P (attack, stop, holdposition, patrol); anyways I find it far more natural when the hot-key is occupied by one of the letters in the ability name. Simply using Q-W-E-R I find to be more confusing in cases where two abilities share some sort of functionality, or need to be used in quick succession.

I think its entirely based on personal preference though, I'm not going to say there's a right way of doing it, but it seems to me being the really fast typer that I am that Q-W-E-R confuses things more than using letters from the ability names.

 

[JakeCake]

the demo is quite good, but way too hard for 2+players. The systems are awesome, but I'd like even more hack'n'slash, not so many tuff' units. Some of them have a lot of hp, and the heroes does only have aoe spells which make just one of them hard to kill.. Please reduce the number of high-hp units

 

[AKAIMAX]

the demo is quite good, but way too hard for 2+players. The systems are awesome, but I'd like even more hack'n'slash, not so many tuff' units. Some of them have a lot of hp, and the heroes does only have aoe spells which make just one of them hard to kill.. Please reduce the number of high-hp units

Once you level up high enough, the strong units die very easily. It all depends on which skills you choose and how you use them. And any new updates? Is this game being worked on?

 

[syltman]

Once you level up high enough, the strong units die very easily. It all depends on which skills you choose and how you use them. And any new updates? Is this game being worked on?

Na_Dann has been offline for quite a while now on my ICQ. However I think that his life is keeping him busy from working on the map right now. But perhaps he has been working on something, dunno.

 

[snacki]

For a leap you can use this to determine the height s= Vo*t+(0.5a)t²

"now i understand this leap system..thx i just learned this at school 3 days ago and i didn't think that school might help me until now xD"

I was impressed about the map, the phsysics are awesome and the projectile system luv them
the terrain also looks good but i can see that it's not "finished"

Good luck with your project!

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Hi there,
had some private troubles and was (and am) really stressed for my finals. So I overall didn't feel comfortable hanging on much on the PC and Mod Wc3.

But as I've passed my first test decently I may mod a bit here and there perhaps. However it'll take another month before I'm capable of spending enough time on this again.

 

[RaiN.]

Exams are hitting us all hard xD

 

[Rommstein]

Hey, I was testing the map (btw, really good job, it is a nice project), and after a jump, I was stucked somewhere I should not be. I opened the map, here is the location :

I also made a little video so you can see exactly where I am.

Hope you won't have many problems to fix it. Good luck.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Thanks, like that kind of feedback^^
Well you shouldn't be able to jump down there in the first place. So I'll see if I forgot any pathing blockers :>

Edit:
By the way I'm running in serious problems regarding the selection system I had in mind. So that you never lose control of your hero.

First problem is something that cannot be fixed. The event for a unit selection is about 0.5 seconds delayed. That's a bit annoying.
On top of that I'm not sure if I should display a units stats inside a multiboard or not. I could do this but it drains a bit (maybe that won't really matter) more performance but also slows down working progress as I got to do a lot with arrays and saving object editor values.
So now there's the question whether it's even necessary to display the units stats within a multiboard. I mean you'll recognize how high their health, damage etc. is anyways while fighting them.

I think I'll put 1.0c up soon so you can tell me whether you like it or not. Currently I myself think it feels stubborn and yeh, I rather dislike it. Though the original idea of never losing control / selection of your hero fits the real Diablo style.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Bumb.

Updated to 1.0c - tell me what you think.

I also added a changelog to the first post.

 

[redmarine]

Basically force select the heroes once spawned and then disable the player's ability to deselect. That's what we did.

 

[Rommstein]

TEdit:
By the way I'm running in serious problems regarding the selection system I had in mind. So that you never lose control of your hero.

First problem is something that cannot be fixed. The event for a unit selection is about 0.5 seconds delayed. That's a bit annoying.

What do you think about disabling selection for all units ?
I know a friend of mine made a system allowing you to do it, even if the unit's still targetable by spells or attacks. I remember I needed it for a system some times ago, but finally I found another solution to my problem. So I don't know if it can do what you want, but you should try.

Here is the system : SetUnitSelection.

Hope you'll find a solution. ;-)

Good luck.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Basically force select the heroes once spawned and then disable the player's ability to deselect. That's what we did.

Well how to disable that ability to deselect?

Edit:
At Rommstein, regarding the side-effects that are mentioned in this thread that way is out of question for me. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[redmarine]

• Selection - Select Heroes[(Player number of (Triggering player))] for (Triggering player)

• Custom script: if ( GetLocalPlayer() == GetTriggerPlayer() ) then
• Game - Disable drag-selection functionality (Disable drag-selection box)
• Game - Disable pre-selection functionality (Disable pre-selection circles, life bars, and object info)
• Custom script: endif

Taken out of context but that's basically it.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Oh didn't know s.th. like this exists. Gonna try it out, +Rep!
Edit: Must spread first ;p

Edit2: Hmm I'm yet not able to deactivate de-selection with those two functions. And when I use EnableSelect(false,false) I cannot select any unit or still all. But being able to have the hero selected and deny any attempt of selecting any other unit doesn't seem possible.

Edit3:
Only way I could go now is by making it periodic. Every 0.04sec the hero is selected in case another unit is selected. :/
But periodic stuff like that always costs a fair amount of performance and is never the "good" way to do it ^^

 

[Conlan]

Keep in mind that this mod is the best Diablo 3 mod available. The others are surely GREAT modes too, especially with terrain (they really rock). But your mod have an epic gameplay, first time i've seen in WC3. You update really slow (i understand youre busy, i just graduated last year), and im a bit impatient I hope you'll make items like you did on your first demo -why did you remove them anyway?-
Good job

 

[syltman]

Keep in mind that this mod is the best Diablo 3 mod available. The others are surely GREAT modes too, especially with terrain (they really rock). But your mod have an epic gameplay, first time i've seen in WC3. You update really slow (i understand youre busy, i just graduated last year), and im a bit impatient I hope you'll make items like you did on your first demo -why did you remove them anyway?-
Good job

It looked awful and just took up space.

 

[Conlan]

Do you mean, my comment looked awful and just took up space? Why?

 

[Deolrin]

I'm quite certain he meant about the attachable items.

 

[syltman]

I'm quite certain he meant about the attachable items.

yeah this is what I meant, sorry.

 

[Conlan]

Lol, i apologize for my English.
About item attachments, i liked them, but you know better... But i suggest keep weapon system this simple and unique. I like the way each weapon have a single unique effect.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Well in the end those weapons weren't even the best visually. Of course some weapons fit and look awesome but many of them are out of proportion, have weird lighting, have a bad attachment spot and I haven't got icons for most of these weapons.
On top of that it is incredible much work downloading, importing and testing all these models. That was a whole bunch of wasted time for me :/

 

[Conlan]

Well, map making is about experiments and wasting countless hours, days even weeks. But as i said, you know better. I enjoy everything you make.
By the way, single player can be easier i think.

 

[ShrEad-ER]

Well, map making is about experiments and wasting countless hours, days even weeks. But as i said, you know better. I enjoy everything you make.
By the way, single player can be easier i think.

I'm pretty sure that if he had time, he would waste it on this
Exams suck! Luckily, i only got tests to do XD

Selection problem:
I think i'm gonna try to make that selection-thingy
Just wait... hmm... half an hour at max XD

EDIT:

Trigger

• Initialization
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Game - Enable selection and deselection functionality (Disable selection circles)
    • Game - Disable drag-selection functionality (Disable drag-selection box)
    • Game - Enable pre-selection functionality (Disable pre-selection circles, life bars, and object info)

• Selection Refresh
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.01 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • Unit Not equal to SelectedUnit
      • Then - Actions
        • Selection - Select Unit for Player
        • Set SelectedUnit = Unit
      • Else - Actions

• Unit Selected
  • Events
    • Player - Player Selects a unit
  • Conditions
    • (Triggering unit) Not equal to Unit
  • Actions
    • Set SelectedUnit = (Triggering unit)

Just change the periodic timer to something else
Should work. But i think you would need to create a lot of player specific variables... lol...
Forgot to take that into account before making the trigger. But i guess you would be able to modify it for your needs ^^

BED TIME!! 8D!

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Thanks for the effort but I code my stuff in JASS and know how to do that. It's just not possible the way I want to do it... as always you gotta make a compromise when working with the world editor :X

And the compromise currently is doing it periodically which is always bad performance wise x.x

 

[ShrEad-ER]

Thanks for the effort but I code my stuff in JASS and know how to do that. It's just not possible the way I want to do it... as always you gotta make a compromise when working with the world editor :X

And the compromise currently is doing it periodically which is always bad performance wise x.x

That sucks :/
Then just set it to every 0.08?
And if it saves anything, set condition to only do it when it's not selected?

Sorry for bad english atm, i'm in a hurry

 

[M0RT]

I think that running "Select unit" periodacally is not as performance-demanding. The only problem here would be "flashes", when you select another unit, you will see it selected for a very short time. (Since warcraft is running at 60 FPS, selecting unit 60 times a second should be enough )

 

[ShrEad-ER]

I think that running "Select unit" periodacally is not as performance-demanding. The only problem here would be "flashes", when you select another unit, you will see it selected for a very short time. (Since warcraft is running at 60 FPS, selecting unit 60 times a second should be enough )

Well, it shouldn't take that much.
But it adds to a glass. And if that glass pretty much is full. It starts fill over.
...

But in the worst case, the flashing unit is acceptable. It has to >:O

 

[redmarine]

Oh didn't know s.th. like this exists. Gonna try it out, +Rep!
Edit: Must spread first ;p

Edit2: Hmm I'm yet not able to deactivate de-selection with those two functions. And when I use EnableSelect(false,false) I cannot select any unit or still all. But being able to have the hero selected and deny any attempt of selecting any other unit doesn't seem possible.

Edit3:
Only way I could go now is by making it periodic. Every 0.04sec the hero is selected in case another unit is selected. :/
But periodic stuff like that always costs a fair amount of performance and is never the "good" way to do it ^^

Kinda odd since it worked flawlessly on our map. What did you do different?

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Never mind. Turned out it does work. Looks like I didn't test one specific thing that I wanted to do lolz >_<

call SetSelection(false,false) does remove the current selection but with
call SelectUnit(...) you can still select s.th., which I thought wouldn't be able and forgot to test as it seems :s

Well that's good news anyways ^.^

 

[ShrEad-ER]

Never mind. Turned out it does work. Looks like I didn't test one specific thing that I wanted to do lolz >_<

call SetSelection(false,false) does remove the current selection but with
call SelectUnit(...) you can still select s.th., which I thought wouldn't be able and forgot to test as it seems :s

Well that's good news anyways ^.^

So the selection action should have been after the disable stuff?
NOOOOO!!... Almost got it >_>

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Updatedto 1.0d - Changelog is in the first post.

 

[M0RT]

1.0d won't load (corrupted while protecting I guess) - it won't even show players