I have answered this on another thread in Site Discussion.Oh god. Rui always deletes/closes threads/posts without askin people. Sometimes its ok and sometimes its not ok. (We are doomed)
I have answered this on another thread in Site Discussion.
The moderators do not ask people if they can close the thread or not. If the thread contains spam, swearing, or provocations (like your thread did), then the moderator has all the right to close it. And you do not have the right to ask it to be reopened.
Just a side note: watch out next time you decide to rampage through the forums asking for your thread to be opened. I ignored your respectful private message for being just that.
Let's see if I can make it clear: your ENTIRE thread was filled with junk. That's why I closed it.So if i provoke other people in their threads, I can get the thread closed? Its just plain wrong when im just giving facts of people being wrong when they are trying to flame me or my project.
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It is old. But it also dances.
You don't have to do any work, but I guess you're OK for these status - if you are a (good) map reviewer, active or not, your vote should count.So long as I don't actually have to do any work; I'm unlikely to do more than briefly touch WC3 for two months.
You REALLY should have asked me first though.
No. Like I said, minimods are users with the ability to vote for approval or rejection of users. They are unable to cause any real damage. Their work will be watched over, though.Question and a comment.
Question: Was there a specific basis upon which the minimods were chosen?
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No. Like I said, minimods are users with the ability to vote for approval or rejection of users. They are unable to cause any real damage. Their work will be watched over, though.
You don't have to do any work, but I guess you're OK for these status - if you are a (good) map reviewer, active or not, your vote should count.
{Edit} And sorry about not asking you first.
you're just a moron, accept it
And then you ask me if I have something against you. His argument had already received a reply.you're just a moron, accept it
OK. I have sent you an invitation to join the social group.Well, I'm not afraid that they're going to do damage; I think they're all respectable people. Moreso important is if they're going to review. Reason I was wondering was because I wouldn't mind help reviewing maps, though this whole issue is entirely up to you. Perhaps somewhere people can apply?
I never actually removed your status. There you go.Well, in that case, I'll ask for my position back. I'm just too busy to do work, for mainly the same reasons as griffen, but I'd still like to consider myself a good map reviewer.
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That is wrong. The minimods' point is not to moderate the Map Section. I am requesting at least 3 minimod reviews to approve a map. The minimods can do nothing but vote for approval or rejection. They cannot change the status of a map.Minimods for map moderating is a ridiculous idea, and you didn't even ask the people beforehand. Not only does that scream bias based on reputation, but it says that you did it on a whim and without any precursor thought into what it would achieve. What do you hope to achieve by giving mod-inactive users the ability to influence the approval status of maps?
I had more in my mind, but Ralle has a few plans that I did not know of, and I have yet to speak to him about them.I could've thought of a half-dozen more useful things to do for your promotion hitch.
I apologize, but I don't understand. The only thing I changed in my attitude is that I'm actually replying to users' complaints regarding my job.Your attitude's totally changed in the past few days too as a result of the promotion. Sheesh, I wish someone that got promoted here would just act like a normal, unchanged, and respectable human being. Is that really so much to ask?
Actually, my counter-argument is more concerned with what good this does. So there are some minimods, hooray, but... That doesn't solve the problem. Just the same as if you added 3 new map moderators, you just add a few minimods and expect it'll right itself? The devil is in the details, Rui, and I know that you're well aware of it, so I've no need to elaborate.Rui said:I know your counter-argument will question some the minimods' competence, but I already have a plan for that as well.
What I can tell you for now is that I know, more or less, the experience level of each of the minimods appointed, and I know, regardless of the number of minimod votes, when to trust (or not) a review.
Ah, the only two that posted here (as far as I can tell). Still, you should always at least make a motion to contact users before implementing them in something like this, regardless of their standing. It's just good business.Rui said:Out of all the minimods mentioned, only Ash and Captain Griffen were not contacted.
Maybe you're just representing yourself better now than before, what with posting a lot more often in the only area of the site I frequent. Who am I to judge? I withdraw my previous statement.Rui said:I apologize, but I don't understand. The only thing I changed in my attitude is that I'm actually replying to users' complaints regarding my job.
So in other words, minimods are useless except en masse. Let's think here, what if those minimods were mods? Then rather than require multiple minimod reviews and a mod to check it over, one person would handle it all. Nice. I guess this falls back to the "can you trust these people with mod status" question, but seriously.. If you can trust them to represent "respected users of the staff" as minimods, they damned well be qualified for the full mod position. Otherwise, they're only a blemish upon the title and the staff (just like a bad mod), regardless of technicalities.Pyritie said:Rising, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. All that being a minimod means is that your map review gets put into an easier-to-access place. Instead of having to look through user comments for decent reviews, the map moderator can just look at the minimod review if s/he needs a quick overview.
So in other words, minimods are useless except en masse. Let's think here, what if those minimods were mods? Then rather than require multiple minimod reviews and a mod to check it over, one person would handle it all. Nice. I guess this falls back to the "can you trust these people with mod status" question, but seriously.. If you can trust them to represent "respected users of the staff" as minimods, they damned well be qualified for the full mod position. Otherwise, they're only a blemish upon the title and the staff (just like a bad mod), regardless of technicalities.
HT said:There are people that are just assholes, like myself.
No, all should be made public. It is an opinion, and you can't do anything about it. And if I think someone is an asshole, I will damn straight say it.
And you have every right. There is a fine line between those that you should, and should not say it to or in front of, though. You don't want to tell Ralle he is a di*k ass mother f*cker (Not implying anything At All), or you might find yourself faceing a community with one less of a user. Masiah has a point when he says there are some things left better unsaid (And this was probably one of themHappyTauren said:And if I think someone is an asshole, I will damn straight say it
There are people that are just assholes, like myself.