@GhostWolf could you give some references for the claims your making? Namely that masks are ineffective, Fauci's leaked emails proving he doesn't believe his public statements, WHO saying not to use masks, and doctors getting censored. Also, I think it's worth acknowledging that yes, many organization did double-takes on statements they gave. A part of science is updating your opinion based on new information.
@maddeem
1: That COVID Deaths are over-evaluated due to false positive
tests for the virus –
This is describing problems there were in the initial wake of the virus, this isn't really relevant now with the rapid tests. The link gives a myriad of reasons for this too, it wasn't just due to false positive rate.
4: That COVID only marginally affects the youth -
Long-covid is happening even amonst youth, so while the death rate is marginal among youth, multi-year long disability is not something you can just dismiss. There are fates worse than death, and honestly my heart goes out to anyone with long-covid because that sounds so miserable.
9: That mRNA Vaccines have a chance of causing Heart
Inflammation -
As does Covid. Most vaccines have very good safety profiles. next, the amount of mRNA (which is already an extremely benign substance) in this vaccine is very small, on the order of micrograms. most of that mRNA won't even get translated into protein. the very small amount that will, will be made into the "spike" protein of CoV, which will, somewhat surprisingly, raise an immune response. You'll get a polyclonal antibody response.
Anyway, the only theoretical risk is if the epitope (the binding site of the virus; but importantly, kind of like a 3d shape the antibody is attracted to) has structural similarity to an important protein in the body. then you'd have some cross-reactivity/immunogenicity. i think that's very unlikely and the risk/benefit is clearly in not having covid vs. a one in a million autoimmunity event.
16: That Adverse Reactions and Deaths due to the Vaccine are
underreported
If you are familiar with VAERS, you would know that reporting for side effects can be done by literally anyone. Sure, the rates are underreported but for any of the serious side effects, I'm fairly certain the rates are fairly accurate. Especially for death lol.
@Amigoltu
Speaking seriously, nobody is buying these boogie-man stories about the supposed "horror" of this "disease". If people do vaccinate, it's only to get various restrictions alleviated.
..long covid sounds awful. Have you not heard about this yet?
sorry for reply format, not trying to waste too much time on this thread. (=
@maddeem
1: That COVID Deaths are over-evaluated due to false positive
tests for the virus –
This is describing problems there were in the initial wake of the virus, this isn't really relevant now with the rapid tests. The link gives a myriad of reasons for this too, it wasn't just due to false positive rate.
4: That COVID only marginally affects the youth -
Long-covid is happening even amonst youth, so while the death rate is marginal among youth, multi-year long disability is not something you can just dismiss. There are fates worse than death, and honestly my heart goes out to anyone with long-covid because that sounds so miserable.
9: That mRNA Vaccines have a chance of causing Heart
Inflammation -
As does Covid. Most vaccines have very good safety profiles. next, the amount of mRNA (which is already an extremely benign substance) in this vaccine is very small, on the order of micrograms. most of that mRNA won't even get translated into protein. the very small amount that will, will be made into the "spike" protein of CoV, which will, somewhat surprisingly, raise an immune response. You'll get a polyclonal antibody response.
Anyway, the only theoretical risk is if the epitope (the binding site of the virus; but importantly, kind of like a 3d shape the antibody is attracted to) has structural similarity to an important protein in the body. then you'd have some cross-reactivity/immunogenicity. i think that's very unlikely and the risk/benefit is clearly in not having covid vs. a one in a million autoimmunity event.
16: That Adverse Reactions and Deaths due to the Vaccine are
underreported
If you are familiar with VAERS, you would know that reporting for side effects can be done by literally anyone. Sure, the rates are underreported but for any of the serious side effects, I'm fairly certain the rates are fairly accurate. Especially for death lol.
@Amigoltu
Speaking seriously, nobody is buying these boogie-man stories about the supposed "horror" of this "disease". If people do vaccinate, it's only to get various restrictions alleviated.
..long covid sounds awful. Have you not heard about this yet?
sorry for reply format, not trying to waste too much time on this thread. (=