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[The Nightmare Book]

Looking forward to play and showcase on youtube!

EDIT:
Oh, jeez, it's coop? Well, probably will try to play it solo...

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Played it as Barbarian - SOLO and managed to get to the first boss

Spoiler: spoiler

Evil Eye

The map is hard enough, as I felt it, and I like that difficulty!
Some questions here - are barbarian works like Warrior from WoW, getting mana/energy by being hit or by his hits?
Also spamming the [Q] button isn't good, it impacts AOE well but Barbarian has only [W] for a single target, [E] I used as a speed boost mostly.

Looking forward to complete map at full!

 

[Gray_Fox]

Played it as Barbarian - SOLO and managed to get to the first boss

Spoiler: spoiler

Evil Eye

The map is hard enough, as I felt it, and I like that difficulty!
Some questions here - are barbarian works like Warrior from WoW, getting mana/energy by being hit or by his hits?
Also spamming the [Q] button isn't good, it impacts AOE well but Barbarian has only [W] for a single target, [E] I used as a speed boost mostly.

Looking forward to complete map at full!

Yes the map is intended for about 3-4 players. The Barbarian and every STR hero gain Mana through attacking and being attacked.

I agree about the Q spell, the heroes and their abilities have room for improvement and I am thinking of ways to improve/overhaul them. I struggle a bit with it so I am open to any suggestions/ideas

In any case thank you for playing the map and for your feedback!

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Yes the map is intended for about 3-4 players. The Barbarian and every STR hero gain Mana through attacking and being attacked.

I agree about the Q spell, the heroes and their abilities have room for improvement and I am thinking of ways to improve/overhaul them. I struggle a bit with it so I am open to any suggestions/ideas

In any case thank you for playing the map and for your feedback!

Well, in case of some lonely people like myself - maybe add some scaling / difficulty modes for solo? Like bosses would be weaker enough to be still hard, but killable solo.
You can look how Diablo 3 done scaling in co-op: bosses and world scales according to players amount, more players - higher stats.

 

[Anostaj]

Always love your maps, only thing i had some kind of issue with was during the frost dragon fight, he flys up into the air and your camera zooms out but he is invunerable and its literally all you can target is him and not the tombs or the risen frost zombies not sure what ya could do about that but it was hilariously frustrating but amazing map

 

[Gray_Fox]

Always love your maps, only thing i had some kind of issue with was during the frost dragon fight, he flys up into the air and your camera zooms out but he is invunerable and its literally all you can target is him and not the tombs or the risen frost zombies not sure what ya could do about that but it was hilariously frustrating but amazing map

I'll see what I can do about that! Thank you for the feedback and for playing my maps!

 

[deepstrasz]

1. Kasper Aran autoselects the backpack which isn't able to use-buy his items. Manually choosing the hero works.
2. Would be nice for gold to be autopicked since it's shared anyway.
3. Being able to buy the Ghostbloom later kind of kills the uniqueness of the starter item choosing.
4. At first I thought this would be a sort of War Chasers reskin seeing the same initial place. In the end it kind of is, even the tank part is here.
5. By any chance was the infested village inspired by places like the Conflagration from Grim Dawn?
6. Some houses may spawn creatures outside the playable or reachable zone if they're too near doodads like the hound one right to the left of the flesh golem boss.
7. You can definitely range kill the spiders before the gates open.
8. Dodging the nerubian boss' emergence from underground spikes seems impossible even if you're moving or not standing on the dust parts.
9. Like how you reused already played map parts for new content, albeit for a short while.
10. A Mana Bloated Risen was stuck in two Dalaran tower doodads right at the first corner past the bridge of the tank circuit zone. Another one in the Dalaran building doodad just before the second bridge and an Embraced Newborn past this bridge. A worm and another risen to the left of the second tower past this bridge in the south, stuck in the column doodad. Two other worms more to the left, after the tower past the iron fence. More risen blocked in the southwestern corner from the first protector.
11. Corrupted Ancient have turn animation bugs. Use the fixed ones instead: Rooted Corrupted Ancients attack animation bug
12. You can select the NE SFX or whatever it's called after destroying the corrupted protector boss.
13. It's fine when you gain full HP on level up but after reaching the max level you can't do that anymore so it would be nice for that to still happen somehow based on kill number or something, I dunno.
14. Loving the doodad spiders and crab on the walls of things.
15. Warlock's Skull doesn't create a health stone during the fight with the boss of the land of the dead when the fire nerubian summoned unit dies or expires.

Overall, good material.
Approved.

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[Gray_Fox]

1. Kasper Aran autoselects the backpack which isn't able to use-buy his items. Manually choosing the hero works.
2. Would be nice for gold to be autopicked since it's shared anyway.
3. Being able to buy the Ghostbloom later kind of kills the uniqueness of the starter item choosing.
4. At first I thought this would be a sort of War Chasers reskin seeing the same initial place. In the end it kind of is, even the tank part is here.
5. By any chance was the infested village inspired by places like the Conflagration from Grim Dawn?
6. Some houses may spawn creatures outside the playable or reachable zone if they're too near doodads like the hound one right to the left of the flesh golem boss.
7. You can definitely range kill the spiders before the gates open.
8. Dodging the nerubian boss' emergence from underground spikes seems impossible even if you're moving or not standing on the dust parts.
9. Like how you reused already played map parts for new content, albeit for a short while.
10. A Mana Bloated Risen was stuck in two Dalaran tower doodads right at the first corner past the bridge of the tank circuit zone. Another one in the Dalaran building doodad just before the second bridge and an Embraced Newborn past this bridge. A worm and another risen to the left of the second tower past this bridge in the south, stuck in the column doodad. Two other worms more to the left, after the tower past the iron fence. More risen blocked in the southwestern corner from the first protector.
11. Corrupted Ancient have turn animation bugs. Use the fixed ones instead: Rooted Corrupted Ancients attack animation bug
12. You can select the NE SFX or whatever it's called after destroying the corrupted protector boss.
13. It's fine when you gain full HP on level up but after reaching the max level you can't do that anymore so it would be nice for that to still happen somehow based on kill number or something, I dunno.
14. Loving the doodad spiders and crab on the walls of things.
15. Warlock's Skull doesn't create a health stone during the fight with the boss of the land of the dead when the fire nerubian summoned unit dies or expires.

Overall, good material.
Approved.

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Description Guide - Maps
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Map Description Generator [1.2]

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The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

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How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps
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Hey, thanks for the review and approval!
I will work on the points and feedback mentioned, thank you for the input.

I wasn't thinking of grim dawn when I made the village but looking back on it I think my mind was subconsciously influenced by it, I've played that game alot

 

[A]mun]

Tried the map real quick alone (will play soon with a bunch of friends).

Seems like a solid continuation of your former works - hope it won't be too easy with a group.
More later
edit:
3h of dungeon crawling later:

• + custom music, very atmospheric
• + boss battles (flashy stuff! and the meteor of impending doom on boss 2 got us once or twice)
• + better/more itemization than before (could still use some more interesting choices)
• + secrets (shadow fragments? might have to replay at some point)
• + enjoyable tank ride (not like in the original warchasers, where it could ruin the experience since it was too tight and permadeath)

minor: silver chests hold too many mediocre items like the new magical, charged abilities (maybe add another tier to them?)
medium: many abilities are a reskin, somewhat flavored default abilities, but still interesting enough
other than that no real nuisance/negatives

We beat it as:
25 knight
27 archer
29 shaman

 

[Blasterixx]

I just finished the map solo and It WAS EPIC!
I played using the latest version of Deforged, here is the replay, it took me 2 hours to complete it.

Spoiler: Review

- I remember playing this with some other players in the past and I remember saying that this map has a tone of potential, but besides that one other time I have never played the map since, so this is the second time I've played this map and the first time I play it solo and to my surprise, it went quite smooth solo, I can even say it was quite easy, almost too easy

I think you could add some extra difficulties to the map or if not just slightly raise the difficulty level overall of the mobs and bosses.

From the entire map, the only thing that "gave me trouble" so to speak were the rifts, since I couldn't manage to kill the given number of monsters under the timer I failed most of the rifts, I was surviving just fine inside them, but the timer made it impossible for me to finish the quest since I just couldn't kill the monsters fast enough, I guess these rifts are build to be completed with more than 1 player in mind, which is fine.


- My hero was Diezzle (Siegecrafter), a really enjoyable hero with great spells. I noticed that he gains mana from any damage he deals to enemies, which meant I never ran out of mana during fights. I really appreciate this feature, as I find it frustrating when my hero runs out of mana after only a few spell uses in RPGs or other war3 maps. This makes the game boring since a hero without mana can only rely on auto-attacks, which takes away from the fun of the map. That's why I love maps like yours that offer players almost unlimited mana for their hero's spells.

There was one thing that bothered me tho, his ultimate was pretty weak, I believe the E aoe spell was dealing almost as much dmg, if not more, than the ultimate and was on a much shorter cooldown, because of that I suggest slightly boosting his ultimate, you could also make it deal dmg based on agility, that would help it a bit more.

- I can say without a shadow of a doubt that this map is the best of its kind, and by that I mean the best Warchasers type map, i played tons of different versions of warchasers maps over the years and this one takes the cake, it is truly the best and the real successor to the original Warchasers map (which is one of the first custom maps made in War3).


- There is so much customization done to this map, The terrain being the most fleshed out aspect, it is just gorgeous , at first you can barely tell it is even a warchasers map because the terrain is so unique and diverse, giving a whole nother level of atmosphere to the game!

The music was also lovely, combined with the great terrain pretty much cemented the ambiance and atmosphere of the map, they combined so well with each other, it was truly a great experience!


- I loved the huge variation of enemy creatures as well, lots of unique mobs with unique skins, and there were even mini-bosses and lots of bosses with epic boss fights, I loved all of them, they were done really well!

I have only one criticism about a specific boss fight. It concerns the Fire Nerubian Spider boss fight. In my opinion, the fight was too easy. The boss should use its spells more frequently, especially when it transforms into its fiery form. Also, during this stage, the meteor that falls from the sky comes down too slowly - it takes around 10 seconds - which gives players too much time to dodge. I suggest that the meteor should fall much faster and that the boss should be able to throw more than one during the whole fight, to make the fight more challenging and exciting.

But for real tho, that whole scene was just so fucking epic, when he gets into the second stage and transforms, getting that fiery skin, accompanied by the epic music which was so on point I must say, it was truly the highlight of the entire map In my opinion, pure epicness!



-I appreciate how, as the map becomes more complete and explored stronger mobs and mini-bosses spawn in previous regions, making the map feel alive and less deserted.


- Tons of crates and destructible around the map, loved that.


- Secrets galore as well, I just recently got into playing Path of Exile, and every time I see a silver key and silver chests/doors I get super excited

I found some bigger secrets like that book in the far north part of the map that didn't do anything I think, or that one purple orb that said 1/4 something, I also had no idea what that was for since I couldn't find the other 3, I believe there should be more hints about these secrets so the players have an idea of where to search for them and when.


- The Tank part of the map was also done super well, cuz my god... every warchasers map has it...and is by far the worst aspect of the map since is always a super slow and boring slugfest, but not here, not in this map!

You managed to take the worst part of warchasers and transform it into one of the best, tho I must say, the cooldowns of that E Aoe spell can be a bit shortened since it was pretty OP with its 3 sec cd. Also, I didn't quite get the part at the end with the tree boss and those 4 colored levers, it didn't seem they were doing anything really, I just went and killed the boss without using them, I guess there must have been something there but I couldn't use them for anything, so that is one aspect that needs to be fixed for sure.



All in all, I can say I had a lot of fun playing this map and I can't wait to see what you'll do next!

My rating for this Custom Map is an 𝓢 Tier (Masterpiece) with 100 out of 100 points!

 

[stalkerfox]

Amazing map man me and my wife had a blast playing it , great work and also i have a bug plus an exploit.
the exploit is that in the sheep area you can use the mask that teleports you to enemies to kill the sheeps thefore skiping the need of finding the legit way to get into that secret area

also the sunshield hero's ultimate at level 2/3 was not doing any damage at all

but regradless of that thank you. this has been one of the best maps i played in YEARS!

 

[Tran Huu Nhan]

This is a Good Map but have a liltle Bug in Tank event , that tank have free mana make that event so ez.

 

[oilio]

@deepstrasz How to unlock the view angle？

 

[Nornil]

Played it together with friend and enjoyed a lot
Most bosses were reasonably hard and therefore fun to compete

Beautiful and lovely detailed terrain and levels
Map engages from the start with its atmosphere
Visual work there is really outstanding

Only thing which confused me a bit was resource system. Closer to the end of map we had tons of gold to roll out random rare items or just trade it for plain stat boost. This part imho popped out of smooth and rich design of map

However, overall this scenario was super entertaining. Thank you for this map! Wish it to become more popular

 

[Eat_Bacon_Daily]

Fun map! Played it with a group of friends. The boss fights were very entertaining and the decor was beautiful!
Here's my feedback:
Negative:

• The scaling is not super satisfying, you never really feel big bumps in power. I would have thrown in some mobs that scale slower than others, so you can have those satisfying power spike moments
• Not sure why you rely on the layout of Warchasers at the start, I almost didn't give the map a chance, because I thought it was maybe another slightly modified Warchasers, but after the first zone the map really becomes something new!
• Some variety in the zones might help, especially the undead village on the center left, felt kind of like a slog, a lot of very tanky monsters with nothing new or special to keep you engaged. At some point we just ran past the last 3rd of it, because it was just a lot of the same.

Positive:

• Terrain and doodads were super cool
• Boss fights were very fun and offered great gameplay mechanics
• Hero designs were great
• The story moments were engaging and not over-done!

 

[Chonky Dwarf]

Really fun map. Managed to beat it solo as shaman in about 2.5h, and had a blast.
Just one thing, if you die in the dragon fight while the crypts are up they don't disappear and keep spawning zombies. I don't know if this was intended but didn't seem like it was so I wanted to report it.