(2)Blighted Grove v1.0

[Figglewig]

Alrighty, back again this time with a Small/Mid sized map and themed around the Eastern Plaguelands. I tinkered around with the Terrain Fog and adding in Regional Weather effects. There is also a few Undead Creep camps, that could potentially add some unique play from a Paladin 1st hero for Human. Hopefully you all can enjoy it, and I look forward to any feedback.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Alright, it's me again
First :
Top left corner red camp seems fine, drop good
The 2 other red camps are fine too, tho I would have wished for a charged item at some point instead of 3 permanents
Okay never mind, aside for the lvl4 charged and lvl 2 lvl 2 charged there's barely any charged item, could definitly switch some

Would love to see marketplace and lab being switch and then turn marketplace into race
It's personnal opinion wait for more, but one lab only feels a bit poor

I feel like human road would be : expand, green near base, and then lab for shredder

Whereas, as ud, I would green green expo or green oj expo
But I'm usually getting fiends, for a 1v1 undeads tend to go early ghouls rather and still get shredder asap, so you bring more manpower to the fight

On the aethetic lvl, I feel like outland trees are really out of place, but once again thats personnal opinion

I would have loved a mixed of lordaeron summer, northrend dead trees, blighted trees and still keep most of the lordaeron fall trees

Some road tiles are too linear, check tavern and bottom right
Same for the buildings there, could spread a bit

I feel like the palette tile is nice, but once again, personnal opinion, don't like peebles, would have added village road, change water color or just not start with barren at all, village/lordaeron fall is good for plaguelands theme

Definitly seem playable, open spaces, decent creep camps, only one shop and one lab vs 2 markets

Decent work tho

 

[Figglewig]

Welcome back OnyxTheDark,

Top left corner red camp seems fine, drop good
The 2 other red camps are fine too, tho I would have wished for a charged item at some point instead of 3 permanents
Okay never mind, aside for the lvl4 charged and lvl 2 lvl 2 charged there's barely any charged item, could definitly switch some

There are also Level 3 Charged drops from the Renegade Wizard Camps at each of the Marketplaces.

Would love to see marketplace and lab being switch and then turn marketplace into race
It's personnal opinion wait for more, but one lab only feels a bit poor

I was debating on this swap too, and wanted to see feedback. My only thought for the Marketplace was to give some level of insight on your opponent, based on what items were available at the marketplace at that time vs having easier access to a shredder for either player.

On the aethetic lvl, I feel like outland trees are really out of place, but once again thats personnal opinion

I would have loved a mixed of lordaeron summer, northrend dead trees, blighted trees and still keep most of the lordaeron fall trees

I utilized the outland trees as I felt they would more closely resemble the mushrooms found in the western plaguelands. The alternative would be the Dungeon Mushroom Trees, but I felt they didn't feel alien/weird enough.

Spoiler: Western Plaguelands Mushrooms

I already included the Cityscape Fall Trees mixed into the Village Fall Trees. I think I could probably utilize some more of the Scorched Trees from the Dalaran Ruins, rather than just utilizing them in the bottom right corner.

Some road tiles are too linear, check tavern and bottom right
Same for the buildings there, could spread a bit

I wish I could just have the road tile more wispy like the angled sections compared to the horizontal or vertical, but I also wanted there to be some linearity to show structure or form (that it was crafted).

Spoiler: Tavern/Map Middle

Do you feel I should pull all of the features back away from the Tavern, to make it more open or to just move the buildings?

I feel like the palette tile is nice, but once again, personnal opinion, don't like peebles, would have added village road, change water color or just not start with barren at all, village/lordaeron fall is good for plaguelands theme

Yeah I just like how the pebbles tile mesh in with the grass and dirt tiles, especially compared to the barrens rock tile. That said, the water color is set to orange, but it doesn't appear to greatly (if at all) effect the shallow water, only the deep water. I chose barrens because I felt the pallet better brought out reds (without being outland). Also, I might be biased towards the barrens tile set, lol.

Thank you again for your feedback OnyxTheDark, always appreciated.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Alright nevermind, didn't know there were mushroom trees on plaguelands, tho a good terrain about plaguelands I know comes from an RTS map
Go check out War in the Plaguelands, decent terrain, and stratholme is just godlike

Yes, you can definitly open up a bit the tavern, so you get less possibilities of being surrounded right after buying a hero
No need to delete everything tho

 

[deepstrasz]

Disease Cloud neutral hostile units are controversial because undead do not get affected by them. Perhaps some unit with Holy Light in some other camp would be somewhat of a balance although it might be used on healing the allied neutrals instead of damaging the undead player. Regardless, Disease Cloud on green camp units is unforgiving and slows down non-undead player level up/creeping. Keep in mind it's an AoE DPS ability, not single target or instant damage.
I feel it's a lame move to change how the Granite Golem looks instead of adding a real Flesh Golem.

It's a cool map overall.

Approved.

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[Figglewig]

Thank you Onyx and deepstrasz, I took a pass through on the map tonight.

I went through and cleared up some tree line issues and little open spots in the outskirts. Then changed the easy murloc camp to not include the plaguebearer, and to still keep a "creepy vibe" added in the flesheater instead of the nightcrawler. I still wanted to keep the plaguebearers in the high level murloc camp though since I just feel like they should be included somewhere in an plague ridden map.

I also pulled the lever and changed the Granit Golem into an actual Flesh Golem. Mwuahaha lightning strike I removed the sludge minions, to compensate for the higher hp on the flesh golem.

edit:03/16/2025
I have further revised the map, adjusted the blighted side goldmine creeps (farewell Skeletal Orc Champion), cleaned up tree lines, and hit the map with the terrain gun to give more height variance. Added a former battlefield within the city walls, to balance out the available space within the area for both sides.

edit:03/19/2025
There has been further clean up work done to make the tree lines less straight and more organic.

I would also like to thank all of the playtesters who have helped make this map in such a great state.

Thank you to: OnyxTheDark, deepstrasz, Raynor88, Sunshine, mrmikemtl, and others for all their time and effort.