Wiki

[~Void~]

What LOTR crap?

 

[Linaze]

I like the entire idea of the wiki, as long as it remains warcraft and only warcraft related, not fucking DnD or LotR etc, that'd just be... meh, that's what it'd be.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

You people are downplaying the usefulness of searchability like you have faith in the parts of humanity that use the internets.

 

[Nichita_00]

A wiki? That'd be great, if it will be clean and stuff.
I agree with tutorials (I say that there should be one tutorial for one thing, 1 tutorial for 'how to skin', 1 for 'how to do a model' etc; Also, tricks and tips on how to '' should be on one page, for example 'how to make xeffect' should be on the same page on 'how to make yeffect'.

And I agree that we should have user pages and wiki links. It would be great.
For example, we could have the history of the site, etc.

I vote for a wiki. And I want to have a page about myself

 

[Dr Super Good]

I would like it purly as a depository for all the JASS knowledge that has been discovered over time. Like any bugs with certain natives or what they are capable of. Equally well it should have articles on the various object editor fields, again with their limitations and details describing exactly what it does.

 

[Hawkwing]

What LOTR crap?

My idea was to have up a Wiki with articles about website users (not necessarily the Hive's), characters from stories and movies such as Lord of the Rings, Warcraft, custom roleplay themes (my Dawn and Twilight, for example. I'd love to have a Wiki to deposit information about it)...

Yarly.

 

[Hakeem]

Social Groups are...if I am correct...soon to be indisposed >.>

They provide concrete features that do not exist elsewhere in the forums. Therefore I see no reason to get rid of them and I see reason to keep them.

 

[Elenai]

Yarly.

I resent every bit of what you said.

 

[Traxamillion]

Meh, i dont see why people are making this such a big deal, the wiki cant hurt and cant benefit really, its just another thing to keep users entertained.

 

[busterkomo]

This wiki idea is fine, but only if it stays about WC3 modding, and nothing straying from that topic.

 

[Traxamillion]

I think it could deal with the userbase as well, like mini-bio's about the user 's here.

 

[busterkomo]

Yeah, that would be fine. Something along the lines of the history of THW would be nice as well.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

I liked DSG's idea. I need some detergent or something, my hands and keyboard feel dirty after typing that.

 

[Hawkwing]

This wiki idea is fine, but only if it stays about WC3 modding, and nothing straying from that topic.

Yeah.

Meh, i dont see why people are making this such a big deal, the wiki cant hurt and cant benefit really, its just another thing to keep users entertained.

Exactly. If there's no reason not to do it then why stop yourself from doing so?

I resent every bit of what you said.

Why?

 

[Rui]

I'd approve of that sort of stuff, but I don't want all that Lord of the Rings crap on there.

If you want that then go here, or something.

If we accept more than one lore, there's nothing wrong in accepting them all.
Don't tell me it's just because it's Lord of the Rings.

They provide concrete features that do not exist elsewhere in the forums. Therefore I see no reason to get rid of them and I see reason to keep them.

They are bugged, at the moment. I'd keep them away until vBulletin releases a patch that fixes them for good.

 

[Elenai]

Why?

I am a Tolkien fanatic of course...

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I just don't see 'why' a wiki is a bad idea. If it causes trouble...take it down...If it succeeds, horray for progress!

And besides, it would be a great place to store things for 'general reference', without having to go through the littered posts of hundreds of users in dusty old threads that more often than not, lack, in what you specifically need. And with a wiki, all parties will be able to input their 'tips, tricks, information, lore, etc' like one massive conglomerate post of knowledge. The collective 'HIVE' mind's knowledge.

 

[Linaze]

A THW wiki is a great idea.
A random wiki with all kinds of lore etc. would suck, that'd make it a lore wikipedia with some warcraft tutorials really.

 

[BearMan]

Why do people even care? IF the Wiki would become reality then don't use it, it's that simple. And IF the Wiki wouldn't then.. well.. continue with what you are doing on the forums. (Yes ladies and gentlemen, it's that simple)

I don't mind having a Wiki at the hive, but I don't think I would use it.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

Why do people even care?

Because a poorly maintained wiki will reflect negatively upon the site as a whole.

 

[BearMan]

Because a poorly maintained wiki will reflect negatively upon the site as a whole.

Users shouldn't care for that, it's not their/ours problem.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

Who are you to tell users what to care about?

 

[BearMan]

I'm not telling them. I'm just sharing my own previous experience. And what's with the attitude man?

 

[bounty hunter2]

Because a poorly maintained wiki will reflect negatively upon the site as a whole.

Example please? Speculation. Anything, a fact perhaps.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

And what's with the attitude man?

I'm not sure. If I knew what attitude you were referring to I'd tell you. Sorry if you assumed there was one.

Example please? Speculation. Anything, a fact perhaps.

I hate using the website that hosts my maps as an example, but it has a poorly maintained wiki that I can't remove that makes the site look really dumb. Clan Valor & Zeal Homepage since you need an example and don't believe me. Now come the hell on, you know that what I said is true. :/

 

[bounty hunter2]

As a speculation I meant "Why do you speculate/guess/have proof/whatever that the bad Wiki would degrade the site?"

I am sure you are telling the truth I just wanted to see an example, since I was almost sure you have one. And you do, a badly maintained Wiki would degrade the site, but I am sure The Hive could properly maintain it. And if not I am sure deletion isn't that hard. I'm sure 80% of the active users wouldn't even notice something had happened.

Edit: It would basically be an experiment that could either increase the offers of the site, or do nothing. But that's your point, right.

 

[Linaze]

If someone came to this wiki and found LotR lore, why the hell would that reflect positively towards a Wc3 community. Name a valid reason, and I will consider changing my mind, but until then, my mind in set on that this idea should be wc3 related and only wc3 related.

 

[Elenai]

Why not? We have threads in off topic that are related to other things...shall we remove off topic?

 

[Hawkwing]

Shall we remove off topic?

The Off-topic forum is horrible enough as it is, we don't need to add it.

 

[Linaze]

Every community needs an off-topic forum "for the lulz", a wiki however, does not.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

[HIGHLIGHT]The Off-topic forum is horrible[/code] enough as it is, we don't need to add it.

D:

 

[Asomath]

Im a writer, I like to write.

Give me a a wiki that needs information, I'll write for it.

If you give an Asomath a keyboard...

~Asomath

 

[Kwah]

Wiki is not needed. And won't help.

 

[Elenai]

Wiki is not needed. And won't help.

Proof plox.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

Wiki is not needed. And won't help.

You say that like having one single unnecessary feature is going to ruin THW.

 

[Traxamillion]

its not needed, but it doesn't take away fromt he site either.

 

[Deathcom3s]

It's not going to completely ruin the hive, and the benefits far outweigh the cons, how few the pros and cons may be. If the users of the hive want to help, and contribute useful info to the wiki, then it's helped the site, if they haven't, then it didn't work out the way we planned, but how does it really hurt the hive?

 

[Hakeem]

The collective 'HIVE' mind's knowledge.

I believe we have found the name.

Why not? We have threads in off topic that are related to other things...shall we remove off topic?

There are some fundamental differences between a forum and a wiki. Forums are for talking and wikis are for publication, for lack of an immediately better word. It's the difference between talking about random stuff and publicizing random stuff. If we allow The Hive Mind wiki to have articles about anything, we would just end up a copy of something like Wikipedia. It's only by restricting it to a specific subject that our wiki would have any use at all.

That said, I do not think we should focus on having things like Lord of the Rings in our wiki. There are wikis dedicated to Lord of the Rings where you can go for that specific subject. Our wiki should be restricted to Hive related things, such as users, events, and of course, Warcraft III modding.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

It wouldn't hurt to make a Hive wiki. I really doubt there would be anything worth putting on it, but if you have the resources and the hype, why not?

 

[Rising_Dusk]

its not needed, but it doesn't take away fromt he site either.

If the wiki isn't maintained properly, it will reflect negatively upon the site. Just like how unmaintained and neglected forums become a point of shame for the site. (See: JASS forums) If people can take care of it, then have a ball. It is not difficult to grasp.

Anyways, Hakeem is right.

That said, I do not think we should focus on having things like Lord of the Rings in our wiki. There are wikis dedicated to Lord of the Rings where you can go for that specific subject. Our wiki should be restricted to Hive related things, such as users, events, and of course, Warcraft III modding.

Absolute truth.

 

[Ralle]

The only con I can see is people editing it for lulz.
I made a vote for this.

I am not taking any responsibility for the wiki if we get it.

The topic is this though: Hive, Wc3 and SC2

 

[Linaze]

Woaw, you came in and saved the wiki there Ralle.
"You heard your cheiftain, clan! Hive, wc3 and sc2, not lotr or dnd!"

 

[Bob27]

I say give it a go, I mean if people just start using it for lolz it can just be removed.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

I say give it a go, I mean if people just start using it for lolz it can just be removed.

Unless he-we-shall-not-name gives the Wiki-power away to someone else because he has already a forum to run.

 

[Hakeem]

So are we going for it or not?

 

[Rui]

I don't know, really. I'd go for it, but I wouldn't like to have it restricted to Warcraft III stuff.

Because of that, I was willing to go for an independent wiki, and I wanted to talk to Deathcom3s about it, but it seems somebody guessed my thoughts and murdered him.

 

[AJalex]

If you can get a host and a domain if you want i can help you with the wiki.

But there is a catch, a wiki needs a really good MySql management because with time the database will get ... HUGE (1-2 gb, Wikipedia's db is ~10-11 gb) and a good management team to remove the unwanted pages.

Or even simpler request one at Wikia

 

[Hakeem]

If you want other subjects, Wikia seems to be the place to go. If The Hive Mind Wiki is open to all sorts of subjects, what makes us different than Wikia anyway?

 

[Teh_Ephy]

The only con I can see is people editing it for lulz.
I made a vote for this.

I am not taking any responsibility for the wiki if we get it.

[HIGHLIGHT]The topic is this though: Hive, Wc3 and SC2[/code]

This from DSG's post, and it doesn't seem broad enough to go anywhere else.

I would like it purly as [HIGHLIGHT]a depository for all the JASS knowledge that has been discovered over time. Like any bugs with certain natives or what they are capable of. Equally well it should have articles on the various object editor fields, again with their limitations and details describing exactly what it does.[/code]

 

[KingDedede]

Remember the last Hive Wiki? It was thrown away. (Well I dont really know what happened) But it went ka-blam. Although I like the idea of the lulz there really wouldnt be a purpose for a wiki.. Unless its to show all the people, and who they are.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

The last "Hive" wiki was a joke from the start, and is still running. THW has disassociated itself with the wiki, but it still exists.