Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[AIagremm]

Of course you can

 

[izaiphovias]

I agree with Alagremm, WoW models, forbiden or not, won't be good.
Most of them looks strange in WC, their graphic details don't fit with WC normal models, having normal and WoW models together isn't a good idea, it will make the game weird. We have modelers, we don't need WoW... =]

 

[AIagremm]

Yes I am xD

I mean that we dont need 'em! We gots modellers, baby!

 

[arthas_king]

About the Nagrand flying ''isles'' we could use the flying Hrllfire Peninsula Rocks, re-skined with grass, a ''Sunken Ruin'' tree and a waterfall effect, with a small lake at its center, just an idea

 

[AIagremm]

No need arthas_king! ^^
We are making Draenor before destruction. The flying rock appeared when the world and gravitation were shattered. But the campign ends when the Dark Portal is opened, long before Draenor became Outland.

 

[arthas_king]

Dang, at least i gave you somenice ideas, hmm next one:
How about an Ogre Mill that is a centaur tent texure, then at the 2nd floor a hust and at its bottom 2 wolves moving the lever and logs of wood outside the tent, hmm a nice lumber mill idea .

 

[AIagremm]

Wolves moving the lever is kinda strange, but everything else is quite good. We might use this

 

[arthas_king]

Add an ogre laborer instead of wolves!

 

[Joss]

Wtf? Wolves? Everything else sounded alright, but where the hell did that come from?

 

[AIagremm]

Who knows... but I also though bout the laborer.
He sleeps when the building is not working, and when it wokr he cuts a big log in front of him! Ok, I know Im a genious alright? xD

 

[Joss]

That works, seeign as how ogres can be ratehr lazy

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, I think they are the only units ingame that have the sleep animation.

 

[Joss]

Actually, they are. Ya know, where they sit down...kinda odd for sleeping, but, w/e

 

[arthas_king]

Nais!I can help at drawing bw, i aint that good at ogre drawings and orc faces but i can help btw will the ThunderLord Clan play a role?They pwn hard!

 

[Joss]

Idea for ogre upgrades building: the warsmith. He has a tent setup with a slab of stone outside where he grinds rocks into weapons and carves wood for their clubs, axes, and other weapons.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, when I heard about them I thought:
Wow, now that a clan with one awesome name! I wonder who are they. Then I found out that they stayed on Draenor, and were all killed
yes, if we will find a role for them I promise they will be in.

BTW, Joss your idea is great.

 

[arthas_king]

Yeah, they are my favourite peeps, at least their stronghold still stands and some peeps survived, a role for Fenris Wolfbrother(Fenris the Hunter) can play a good role as an agi hero

 

[AIagremm]

And their spirits still walk the earth, seeking redemption...

 

[arthas_king]

Yeah, and they did oneof the biggest contributions at the Horde, the Raiders!Well as far as i know the Warsong and Shattered hand had 1337 Grunts, Burning Blade had blademasters, Stormreaver had warlocks, bonechewers had shammans(i think), while i know that ThunderLords agreed with BoneChewers to stay at draenor or something like this but others didnt wanted and crushed em at a civil war lulz.

 

[Joss]

Idea for ogre hero: the Warmonger. The Warmonger carries a great club in one hand and a legendary axe in the other. Heavily armored and with an average attack speed and slithjly above average dmg, he's the Ogre's balanced defence-to-offense Hero.

 

[AIagremm]

Nice Joss!

But you forgot about one thing arthas_king. About the mighty warriors of the Shattered Hand.

 

[arthas_king]

Lets stay on lore please

Edit:Another idea for Orc Hero:Elder Shamman
These mighty heroes of the horde have mastered the elemental magics, while they kindly ask the spirits to tend the wounder, they use that power for their clans safety, using a spiky fistand leather armor, these elder warriors help the Horde with their magics and inteligence, slow attack speed, fastmana regeneration, good hp regeneration and good health.

 

[Joss]

Idea for Ogre Hero: The Magic Master. The Magic Master is a two-headed ogre magi, one of the few of his kind. He is a very good buffer, and can summon a horde of Netherspawns to do his bidding. Acts as the Ogre's mage Hero.

 

[arthas_king]

Ogre Magi were created after Gul'Dan stepped on Azeroth(i think).

 

[AIagremm]

No, ogres aint good at magic, Netherspawns wont fit because there was no nether, and two-headed ogres appeared only in the Second War.
But its good that you want to help the project.

 

[arthas_king]

Check my edited post too!

 

[AIagremm]

Pretty good, but Im having problems with thinking about the orcs. Im starting to think that Bloodpact is bad idea. We need to deside, uncorrupted orcs or the green orcs need to be a campign race.

 

[arthas_king]

Shamans are not corrupted

 

[AIagremm]

Thats the point of my thoughts.

 

[arthas_king]

If that's the point then why you said about bloodpact shamans are wise elders, clean and fair!

 

[AIagremm]

That is an upgrade of the orcish race, which can be used(not necesserily)to change the units green and give player necrolytes and warlocks.
But in return his units lose health and defence points.

 

[Mulgrim]

Dang, at least i gave you somenice ideas, hmm next one:
How about an Ogre Mill that is a centaur tent texure, then at the 2nd floor a hust and at its bottom 2 wolves moving the lever and logs of wood outside the tent, hmm a nice lumber mill idea .

clefthooves would be better, but they're not from blade's edge.

 

[izaiphovias]

why the blood pact would be a bad idea?

 

[arthas_king]

I dont think its a neccesary upgrade, but a special one, btw check my extra campaing idea about the Orchish clans

 

[Mulgrim]

blood pact should be left for the last 2 stages: siege of shattrath, and dark portal

 

[izaiphovias]

blood pact will be a melee research, it will only be avaliable to custom maps, the campaings won't have it, cus there will be a camp for the shamanistic orcs and one for the horde... =]

 

[Mulgrim]

and how do you know that..? also, i'm very sure alagremm said the campaigns/mod end when the dark portal is opened, which would be about 2 chapters of "The Horde", and the blood pact was when the orcish clans drank the blood of Mannoroth, turning them instantly green, and empowering them. so the blood pact is a must have for the plot and would be a buff for what i think would be the last playable part: siege of shattrath.

 

[izaiphovias]

sorry dude, i think you don't got it... the first orcish campaing will tell the story of the shamanistic orcs (only), it will end before or when they are corrupted, then the horde campaing will start, after the shamanistic or after the draenei camp, there will be no need for the blood pact in the campaings, cus in one you will be the uncorrupted orcs (don't know what Alagremm is planing for the story of this camp) and the other the corrupted green ones (ends when the portal is opened). =]

 

[Mulgrim]

so we have 4 races 5 campaigns? and how do you even know this? =]

and by the way, the major part of the corrupted orcs is after the dark portal, in the first war...

 

[izaiphovias]

Mulgrim have you visited the FoD site lately?
There is everything about it, we discussed it there (still discussing)
It will be like this: Ogres in the tutorial campaing, a little story about the Gronn -> Orcs (Shamanistics), something about their old way of life, before the corruption -> Arakkoa, a quest seeking a way to bring Terokk back -> Draenei, don't know exactly -> Orcish Horde, the corruption and war against the draenei. It would be somethnig like this, but of course changes will be made as discussion progress.
Had you forgot that i'm a member of the group too? (not exactly a member, but a helper, whatever), this is how i know that. =]

 

[AIagremm]

Actually if you human drunk demon blood he would just become evil. Maybe grow horns.
Some races indicate their corruption: orcs - skin, elves - eyes.

And yes, xbacurix is right, the orc campign will end when the orcs will drink the blood of Mannoroth. In campign there will be no Bloodpact upgrade. However now Im starting to think that this upgrade wont fit the heroes and stuff like that. Im thinking about leaving only uncorrupted or corrupted orcs in the melee.

 

[izaiphovias]

hard decision: shamanistic or demoniac
=/

 

[Spet]

I would be more then happy to do some triggering for you

 

[AIagremm]

Hurray! Count yourself in! ^^
BTW, did you check your thread out, I had written the rest of you hero backgrounds.

 

[rcshaggy]

Hey guys.
Sorry for not coming here that much. I just had problems with some stuff.

 

[Spet]

Hurray! Count yourself in! ^^
BTW, did you check your thread out, I had written the rest of you hero backgrounds.

Oh yeah dude, they are very nice, whenever you need me to do some triggering just pm me because im very busy with Lrpg

 

[AIagremm]

BTW, how did you change your name Warlord Ajer'laroir? I almost thought that I dont know you.

{EDIT}
BTW, people check out the galleries on the site, I've posted screens of the unreleased mod Dusts of the Nether

 

[rcshaggy]

Yeah its me Arrlong. Just call me Andy my real name if you want, so its not confusing.

{EDIT}
I just seen those photos on that Dusts of the Nether place. Looks very interesting.
Will the places from the Warcraft II Draenor be in this and the Burning Crusade?

 

[AIagremm]

You mean WCII and BC locations? Well, mostly we will do it like BC.
However, WCII will not be forgotten, I promise.

 

[rcshaggy]

Good.
Well I should say I quit from the Fall of Draenor Project. I never really did anything for it and I don't want to hold you guys back from it. I'll still be a loving Fall of Dreanor supporter, but not a worker now. I'm sorry for this, but stuff just came up and I hope you guys understand. I was looking forward to working with you guys, but I cannot. Its not that I dislike you guys or anything its just my life in shitty and I hardly have any time now to enjoy without being pushed around and what not.

Well I wish you guys luck with the Campaign and this is my goodbye from the Project.