The Ultimate Terraining Map, Volume 4!

Pharaoh_ · Nov 7, 2012

The Hive has changed a million faces, the model creators have improved themselves, but the terrain creators are still eager to shape their own worlds!

It's time to move on from the Ultimate Terraining Map 3.0 to 4.0!

Everyone is now free to contribute to the official release of this map!

The models that you suggest must be followed by a test map, a list of textures [if needed (full paths)] and a presentation image.
The models cannot be exported from other games and they have to follow the Site's Rules.
The authors of the models must all be credited in the Test Map and your post alike; however, you still need to follow the author's personal set of rules. That being said, you may not upload a model here, in case their author has clearly forbidden its distribution in another site (if it is taken from another site).
Don't suggest models that are already part of the Ultimate Terraining Map 3.0.
Do not edit models to fit the purposes of this map.
Do not trust the material of other maps, bearing the title of Ultimate Terraining Map 4.0. The official release has not been made yet.
Even after the map's creation, you are still inclined to suggest model updates and additional material for the map. Every now and then, the Ultimate Terraining Map v4.0 will be incorporated with massive updates.
You are free to defy the validity and legality of a suggested model, as long as you have evidence.
Irrelevant posts will be deleted.
The suggested models will be ultimately implemented in the map, if they go along with the following points:
- Usefulness (Determines whether the resource will find any uses by a terrainer in a possible terraining venture or scenario and how it will possibly prevent further searching)
- Modelling Accuracy (Determines the quality of the resource)
- Modelling Disability (Determines whether the resource is bug free)

SpasMaster · Nov 7, 2012

It's about time... :grin:

Lordkoon · Nov 7, 2012

Time to dig out the old foldiers of models.

fladdermasken · Nov 8, 2012

Not to be a spoilsport but you guys do understand that routing out models to add is not the challenge here, right?

What really made UTM ultimate was how everything was neatly organized. And trust me, that is going to be countless hours of grunt work and detail slavery in the object editor. Just know that people have tried many times before and gave up long before they even made any decent progress. If you really want to take it upon yourself to do it, make sure you don't half-ass naming conventions and important shit like scaling and pathing.

This was me and my input.

HOooDy · Nov 8, 2012

We Can Help Each Other.

Adiktuz · Nov 8, 2012

so far, I didn't cared much about pathing and scale settings on the UTM because I tend to change them anyways... but yeah, naming really plays a big role... I love how organized the doodad list was...

Vladadamm · Nov 8, 2012

What about... a tool ?

Adiktuz · Nov 8, 2012

what tool?

Vladadamm · Nov 8, 2012

Max Escape Creation, you can set the terrains-types and put the terrains ingame with it.

Adiktuz · Nov 8, 2012

okay, but how is that related to the UTM? because the UTM mainly consists of doodad models not terrain types...

Vladadamm · Nov 8, 2012

We add commands on the MEC system to being able to create and place doodads and destructibles in-game. And like this we could create the terrain directly from UTM.

Adiktuz · Nov 8, 2012

we do terrain directly from the UTM right? and I think terrainers use the WE picture of their terrains using the game-view mode instead of actually running the map...

as for playable maps, hmmm...

but anyway, how does it work? if we still need to give the positions of doodads, scale etc, I cannot think of how it will be better than doing them directly on the WE...

and will the creator of the tool actually allow you to add such things? and if yes, who will add those commands? It's not a simple thing to do...

Vladadamm · Nov 8, 2012

I think yes, if we ask him.

Imo, it's better if you want to do playable terrains cause you can see how it is ingame (for example, if you move units, will the units have enough place to being able to pass ?)

Adiktuz · Nov 8, 2012

so it lets you "test" it without opening the map in wc3???

Vladadamm · Nov 8, 2012

kinda, but that's true, it's not so much useful for terrains.

Lordkoon · Nov 8, 2012

One thing that the UTM was lacking was modern warfare/futuristic decoration sets which was limiting the choices of terrain creations. People should focus on a theme that needs improving/ or does not exist. One can not be called ultimate if lacks all the possible choices.

HammerFist132 · Nov 8, 2012

Okey then, I have found very useful models by Sin'Dorei300, demonic well and ne well, they are simple but nice and done in warcraftish mode.
Btw does anyone of us can create it or we just suggest, and can we only do update to current utm 3

Celaquil · Nov 8, 2012

Everything Fladder said aside, wouldn't this map be the most laggiest thing ever?
- I mean, hell, UTM 3.0 was nearly unbearable, I can't imagine a beefier map would be any better.

I guess born of that statement is the question: Do you intend on making a new map, or to build on top of the already existing UTM?

And even so, every terrainer with some small amount of self-respect has their own variations of the UTM anyways, no need making a new one I'd say.

Then again, sure, if you see some need in going through the awfully tedious business of making a new UTM that many have tried and all have given up, run for it.

2-P · Nov 8, 2012

Keiji said:
Everything Fladder said aside, wouldn't this map be the most laggiest thing ever?
- I mean, hell, UTM 3.0 was nearly unbearable, I can't imagine a beefier map would be any better.

Loading times will become a pain. My UTM has twice the amount of custom doodads than the UTM 3 and it takes a fortnight to open the props/environment palette. It's like ~5 seconds on UTM 3 compared to almost half a minute on my version.

vuongkkk · Nov 10, 2012

there are some problems which are harder to solve:
- nowaday it's hard to find new war3 models and the models belong to UTM 3 are not allowed here.
- I found a few models are quite good but i don't know where they come from @@
- I saw many models that i need in many screenshot of everyone, but they seems to be not right with the site rules

David · Nov 10, 2012

Cool! I am using the 3 and I need the 4

sonofjay · Nov 10, 2012

I wonder why this is getting discussed, most terrainer usually find models that is only they need for their terrains. Since using a map with tons of imported stuffs(and hell you'll only use a few of them) then having lots of data on the object editor makes the world editor lag thus making terraining a bit harder.

Adiktuz · Nov 11, 2012

yeah, people normally just open the UTM to get the right models, export them then import into their map...

xorkatoss · Nov 11, 2012

I'm not sure if my models are good enough to be in the UTM 4.0 but ill like to suggest my Wooden Log Wall and my Skateboard models.

HOooDy · Nov 12, 2012

UTM is just for Doodads.

fladdermasken · Nov 12, 2012

Actually you are wrong in two ways:

One, they are both technically doodads if you use them as doodads. Two, UTM is for doodads that are useful to terrainers.

elredir · Nov 12, 2012

instead of just adding hundreds of new models to the utm why not just replace some of them with higher detail ones?

Celaquil · Nov 12, 2012

I reckon that'd be because agreeing on what is "better" than something else would be rather hard, considering most terrainers have their preferable ways of using the doodads they have. That, and some terrainers don't really like using "high detail" doodads, due to maintain that "wc3" look to it.

I have to agree though, setting together a better mix of more useful doodads, and rule out the absolutely useless doodads would not only, likely, make the map smaller in size, but also more efficient and better.

All this aside, I still see little point in this, people will always make their own "UTM's" and stick to that. I guess the "UTM" is really only very useful to new terrainers and people who don't terrain, but like fooling around with terraining.
- Which happens to be a diminishing race.

elredir · Nov 12, 2012

probably making this new utm will draw in new terrainers and maybe "revive" the terrain board?

Codric · Nov 12, 2012

Really? Ripping the picture from Assassins creed 3?
That's low.
No its a joke, if you sense of hummor abandons any-of-you guys.
Anyway I got nothing.

David · Nov 12, 2012

BTW make a freaking happy tauren's lava in there..There is no LAVA!

fladdermasken · Nov 13, 2012

David said:
BTW make a freaking happy tauren's lava in there..There is no LAVA!

I think a lava model was never up for suggestion because we already have a decent way to work around it.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...als-278/how-make-good-looking-lava-we-157800/

SA Dashie · Nov 16, 2012

actually Keiji said what I would off. I always set up my own sets of doodads and they always work out the best for what I want... With scavenging all over the internet that is. But yeh I guess that these utm's are more for messing around with.

Celaquil · Nov 16, 2012

Actually, come to think of it, I'd actually say making a register containing filed doodads with links to the download source a better alternative.
Of course it would need to be cataloged into sections and neatly arranged, but as previously mentioned: People like making their own "UTM"s.

sonofjay · Nov 16, 2012

^
That one.

EloTheMan · Nov 18, 2012

Maybe it can include some tutorials on wc3 terraining and the "best" ways of using some of the doodads that are included.

bisnar13 · Nov 19, 2012

i want to include my elevator and light post here

kellym0 · Nov 23, 2012

guess i better start spiting out more destructible plants!

DungeonM · Nov 29, 2012

The fact that people are still building on this blows my mind.

Cheers

Amargaard · Dec 2, 2012

So, when is this finished? I have to use it for Santa's Workshop

Pharaoh_ · Dec 2, 2012

I don't see you submitting material, at all!

Amargaard · Dec 2, 2012

I'd love to, but I'm not a modeller :l

WereCraft · Dec 3, 2012

How to join

Amargaard · Dec 3, 2012

Make some useful models and send them here, then they will be added to the map

Pharaoh_ · Dec 3, 2012

No, you only suggest models, with link, download, credit to the author, paths and a preview image. You don't have to create them, you only need to find useful, good-looking models that a terrainer would possibly need with the exception that they are not already part of the Ultimate Terraining Map 3.0.

Amargaard · Dec 4, 2012

Oh, my mistake the, sorry :b

eubz · Dec 5, 2012

Sin'dorei300 · Dec 5, 2012

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=83031
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=93622
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=109433
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=83596

eubz · Dec 6, 2012

nice model links you got there.

sonofjay · Dec 6, 2012

b2m's high res pack already have a test map.