[Campaign] Tales of Silventria Mechanics Thread

[Lord Aiden]

How about we have both and either have them as brothers, or one is superior to the other, like Rasler is the higher up and Haldan has to follow his orders, lol

 

[Lord Siler]

Lol, imagine you are given a choice which one is the traitor, and they're both backstabbers in the end, so both choices are right and wrong at the same time, like the final mission of human book 1 of arkain, only either way a traitor escape, now that would be too funny

 

[Lord Aiden]

Never thought of that, but it definitely does not make it less funny

but what about seriously having one as the person in charge and the other as his follower/subordinate

 

[Lord Siler]

Go for it, these are your ideas after all, just remember to test it before actually stopping on something, you could have some of the abilities switched around, add others etc. Theres a certain feeling you can give the player when hes going up against this traitor that this guy will do anything to win, maybe give him spell shield as an ultimate and add dark summoning as a default? I think it would reflect his personality more since traitors often hide behind others rather than attack directly or run into battle weapons drawn, but again this is just my opinion

 

[Lord Aiden]

Good opinion, I'd rather he had Granite Gollem as an ultimate though, but you do have a very good point regarding the hiding behind others

 

[Lord Siler]

Another idea

Give him spirit link as a default

Ability 1 - Energy bolt
Ability 2 - 3 level dark summoning
Ability 3 - Enchanted Armor
Ultimate - Summons 2 or more medium gollems or other units

Or maybe switch it so that he has self heal for ability 2 and the 3 level dark summoning instead of enchanted armor

 

[Lord Aiden]

That's really good, thanks for all your help man

 

[Lord Siler]

np, I like messing around with abilities

I'd say I'm better at this than I am at both terraining and developing storylines

 

[Razorfang]

i see u guys making some progress

might i suggest something; remember that blood shield idea blake had? the one where you hide the divine shield in the 0, -11 position and have a triger active it only when a specific ability is cast, that is an ability that kills a friendly unit, maybe u should give rasler the traitor this one,

what u think

 

[Lord Siler]

Completely forgot about that one, might be a decent idea since we have worked out the mechanic, I thought it was supposed to give the hero mad armor though, thanks for the remind

 

[Blake8]

Originally it was suppose to metamorphose the unit into an identical unit surrounded in a red glow which had a much higher attack and defense, it was supposed to be called "Blood Ritual" or something like that

 

[Rem]

I liked the alchemy abilities much more =)

wish we'd develop some

 

[Razorfang]

alchemy?

 

[Rem]

You know the abilities that create special sphere or runes that have give off powerful auras that boost your friends stats, some good abilities =)

 

[Razorfang]

o i think Apostle was working on those before he went mia, so idk how much of it actually got developed

 

[Rem]

I see, well too bad . . .

Hopefully someone else will pick up the slack and finish them

 

[Blake8]

@Rem I think I have some wip saved where those things were being developed, but they're not particularly powerful or anything, I can try to find and send you the files if you wanna work on them, they're just abilities that are a nerfed version of curse - they summon a gem or something of that nature that has an aura, some of them are way too easy to destroy though, pm me if you want the files

 

[Blake8]

@Lord Aiden I think you got the wrong model for lord rasler, Haldan had a slightly different footman model

 

[Lord Aiden]

I believe you're right

 

[Blake8]

Ye I have no clue what the "real" Haldan model is, hopefully we can identify it

 

[Lord Aiden]

@Colonel Aster : Big Thanks

meet the new Rasler

 

[Blake8]

Nice

 

[Rem]

if you give the character a good story it wont matter what model you use. besides i think the original model with the maul looks better

 

[Blake8]

@Rem I fully agree

 

[Lord Siler]

Hows this for Rasler:

Lord Rasler was formally a humble captain in the ---- region of Milrein, however has risen up the ranks by driving rebel forces from the region, and has now been put in charge of the ---- as well as extracting magics from ancient runes and artifacts found it in. He is well respected for his military accomplishments by the general populace but his research into magical runes and artifacts receives much distrust and criticism from the mage community.

 

[Colonel Aster]

Ok, why the obsession with Rasler all of a sudden?

 

[Lord Aiden]

Well he's based on a real person, and I think it fits in quite well

Picture this:

You fight with Rasler on your side either as one of your heroes, or as one of your allies' heroes, then in another mission his entire force either changes sides and fights alongs with the rebels, you simply see that he's fighting with the rebels from the start, or maybe something like you expect to get him as reinforcments but instead he comes and fights against you with the rebels, the third option would be best imho

 

[Colonel Aster]

I think the best scenario would first be able to control him, then in another mission you would be able to control him until you complete a quest after which you have to wait some time and he along with other rebels tries to blitzkrieg your base, that would show his true backstabbing nature

 

[Lord Aiden]

Interesting. That could work

 

[Colonel Aster]

You just need to give him some memorable abilities (or atleast one memorable -uncommon- ability)

 

[Lord Aiden]

Got any suggestions

 

[Colonel Aster]

as Siler would say @San once again we need your presence

 

[Lord Aiden]

I think I get it, summon multiple invisible units ? is that it?

 

[Colonel Aster]

Be creative man, me and Blake would spend hours comming up with abilities, it would also take hours to actually make them

 

[Lord Aiden]

What about a doom ability that summons some sort of powerful unit?

 

[Colonel Aster]

Come on you can do better than that, look at the lists we use to make up abilities

 

[Lord Aiden]

Ok,

A doom ability that "summons" a floating rune that attacks the enemy, has mana burn and has an aura that reduces their attack by 50%

 

[Colonel Aster]

Well Done!

that looks like the perfect ability for our traitorous friend

 

[Colonel Aster]

What shall you call this ability?

 

[Blake8]

Mark of rune ?

 

[Lord Aiden]

sounds good

 

[Blake8]

You know we should really have these conversations in chat rather than here

 

[Lord Aiden]

You and Aster are the only ones who are really in chat most of the time, rest of us are around but during different times of day, that's why the thread is rather more convenient

 

[Rem]

Aiden is right you know. much easier to respond here than wait on u guys in chat

 

[Blake8]

Ye, you're right, didn't think about that

 

[Lord Siler]

Might wanna give Haldan, if we ever do create one that volcano ultimate if we do have a Haldan

 

[Lord Aiden]

Yellow or orange dreamlord?

 

[Lord Siler]

I think yellow would fit more, but orange does seem to look cool

 

[Lord Siler]

btw,,,what about the sandstorm idea? Deals some damage to reduces the ability of a unit to strike his target by 33%

 

[Lord Aiden]

it's decent (6/10) but the previous ideas are much better