[Campaign] Tales of Silventria Mechanics Thread

[Lord Aiden]

Well fine I'll look into the testing, but dont blame me if it turns out differently from what u had in mind

 

[Lord Siler]

That's fine, I didn't have much in mind, this was your idea after all

As far as abilities go I'd suggest giving him self Heal and something like Haste maybe (I'm not sure if there's a Hero haste, but there is something called frenzy which a certain character has)

 

[Lord Aiden]

Ok, any other suggestions?

 

[Lord Siler]

Maybe something like a 3 level dark summoning?

 

[Lord Aiden]

Does that already exist or do I have to modify the spell myself

 

[Lord Siler]

Blake already made it, for a certain summoner hero...look into custom > special > Hero

 

[Lord Aiden]

Neat, but this one seems op, 4, 8, 12 ...wouldnt you rather give him something like feral beasts instead, or would you rather have him summon 12 units to your base outta nowhere

 

[Lord Siler]

Up to you, feral spirits would be ok in my opinion, although I would prefer you'd be more creative

 

[Lord Aiden]

Heck you guys made tons of abilities, but half of them wouldn't fit on the hero, and the others are just too op, where you guys designing abilties specifically for some heroes?

 

[Lord Siler]

Blake was, I just designed abilities to work for almost any hero,
hey why dont you just give him orb of darkness? that would fit nicely

 

[Lord Aiden]

Ok, the one that allows you to hit flying units plus adds 10, 20, 30 damage to your attacks right

 

[Lord Siler]

Bingo

 

[Lord Aiden]

Seems like a cheap ability, only adds damage and makes your attack ranged

 

[Lord Siler]

True in a sense, let me think for a second

 

[Lord Aiden]

........take your time

 

[Lord Siler]

Ok, I looked over some things, try giving him protect and/or dark haze

 

[Lord Aiden]

What about that stun ability? The strike one?

 

[Lord Siler]

Rasler has a sword not a warhammer

 

[Lord Aiden]

We can just modify the icon and the description

 

[Lord Aiden]

Thought about having something like discharge, but this wont really work

 

[Lord Siler]

That ability is too good to use for a traitor!

 

[Lord Aiden]

lol

 

[Lord Siler]

But seriously, what's wrong with endurance aura? why do you wanna replace it so bad?

 

[Lord Aiden]

idk---

hey what about envenomed weapons ?

 

[Lord Siler]

Do you have any idea how OP that would make him, just look at how the assasin hero's hp had to be nerfed severly to balance for this

 

[Lord Aiden]

lol, that went from 1175hp down to 1075hp

 

[Lord Siler]

More like from 1250 to 1075

 

[Lord Aiden]

wow, why didnt u just nerf the ability?

 

[Lord Siler]

ask Blake

 

[Lord Aiden]

I will when he's around

 

[Lord Siler]

Anyway you could replace the aura with evasion, I think that'll suite him better

 

[Lord Aiden]

How about this, I'll see what I can do then I'll tell you the results

 

[Lord Siler]

Ok

 

[Lord Aiden]

I gotta run

 

[Lord Siler]

So when will we have those results then????

 

[Lord Aiden]

later on tonight or tomorrow

 

[Lord Siler]

Look I'll send you list of abilities, let me just focus for a bit, I'd really appreciate if you would test them if you dont wanna come up with your own

 

[Lord Aiden]

OK

 

[Lord Siler]

alright I'll e-mail you some of them in an hour, when will you be getting back?

 

[Lord Aiden]

In around 3 - 3.5 hours or so

 

[Lord Siler]

Alright man, see you

 

[Lord Siler]

Ok, try this, and I'll add more

Strike for Q
Self Heal for E
Evasion for R

 

[Blake8]

Ok after doing some delicate balancing I found some abilities that seem to more or less fit

Shockwave
Lava Spawn
Evasion
Doom (rune)

Shadowmeld is going to be at 1,1

 

[Lord Aiden]

Why shadowmeld all of a sudden?

 

[Blake8]

Makes him more effective at night, but we might change this to either a basic critical strike, maybe a weak command aura (10%) or weak endurance aura, idk

 

[Lord Aiden]

You know I realized we're spending too much time on this, but either way here's what I discovered after what was probably an hour of painful testing:

For the most balance and effectiveness

Q = Shockwave
W = Feral Spirit
E = Orb of Darkness
R = Doom

Default = evasion

 

[Blake8]

Ok, but no orb of darkness, we need to give him something else

 

[Lord Aiden]

What about

Q = Strike
W = Shockwave
E = Feral Spirit
R = Doom

Default = evasion

 

[Blake8]

It's not called strike, its called heavy blow, lol

 

[ArchDuke]

so you guys are arguing about a character's abilities for a whole page