Strife of the Elves V2.14

[arphax214]

why the map title change?

 

[N1ghthawk]

I wanted to avoid similiarity with the stand-alone RTS Demi-god game. Primarily for two reasons. One to avoid comments like the first few on this map and two to make it so you could search google and such for this map much easier.

 

[ravewarheit]

Suggestion:
Try to make the ability hotkeys more intuitive.
Hotkeys should help you cast skills faster, but going from one end of the keyboard to the other doesn't help at all.

I suggest picking one side of the keyboard (per hero), then focus on the keys on that side. Keep the hotkeys close together.

Also, avoid using "P" as a hotkey, for obvious reasons.

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I also think you should focus on adding more heroes, items and quests, rather than tweaking the terrain and other miscellaneous stuff. Balancing also comes after adding heroes and items.

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Bugs:

Fix the Naga quest.

 

[N1ghthawk]

I have changed the hotkey of any abilities that used "p" as their hotkey (except those that are passives) and additionally attempted to rearrange the hotkeys of each hero to one side of the keyboard. I will pay more attention to this in the future to make it easier for players.

Also, the Naga Anarchist NPC now correctly gives the Lord of the Tides quest.

Now that I have built a core to the game that I am alright with, future updates will likely contain new items, heroes, and quests along with minor glitch/bug fixing and balancing. I am already in the process of designing the general concepts for new items and heroes.

Thank you for the report and suggestions, +rep

 

[Hemske]

Hey there, just played your map here . Nice one, to be honest, better than many AOS out there. It was fun, only tried 1v1 though, hopefully the map will be even better with more people .

Here's a short review with positive/negative comments.

Negative

-You get the aggro of creeps/towers all the time, with no reason, i can have a creepwave that is attacking a tower, but when i just come near it, it starts to attack me, same with the supercreeps (at least the big turtle one).
-Lack of heroes, truly this was the worst with the map, you will get tired of the heroes after a couple of games, 10 heroes for an AOS isn't enough (but i guess you are aware of that, and surely are working for more heroes)
-I thought that you are over-using special effects, maybe chill on them, i mean, the environments are beams and energy and all kind of stuff everywhere, gets a bit too much. Also, the creeps spells have more effects than some of the heroes :O, the creeps shouldnt be so focused as they are now, you only see creepspells everywhere and can't understand what the heroes are doing sometimes.
- No quest log? I gained the quest, but didn't find anywhere i could look for the progress of them or anything. You really should add that.

Positive

-Fun
-a bit original at least, some stuff and things that makes it "not-so-unoriginal". (different points, quests, insignias, upgradeable towers, creeps, etc.)
-Good choice of icons and models (even though the "pick skill" icon is a bit undefined, hard to see when i have a skill point or not :S)
-Nice environment, and feeling, a magic woods, really soft feeling
-innovative items
-The ability to be able to crit with attacks/SPELLS, it's great.
-will probably be really fun after a couple of updates

Things to Add

Things to add/change (my personal opinion, do what you want with it)

-Quest log (as stated earlier)
-less effects on the creeps spells
-more different and fun upgrades for the creeps/towers/etc
-Maybe different events triggering at random times of the map? Like spawns 10 chickens that hides over the map, kill them for extra gold, etc, etc.
-MOAR HEROES
-didn't see many end-game items, most of the items was kind of expensive, but still pretty crap. (maybe just that i didn't find the awesome items, might be that )
-look over the grammar and spelling once more, was some typos.
-add player commands, like -ms to check your hero's movement speed and stuff like that

Other Notes

-I was able to life steal on the towers and buildings.... (played as the skeleton/death guy) That is not okay.
-I would love to help you with ideas/suggestions (or icons, still improving, but am beginning to get kind of good at iconmaking, i think ), just lend me a pm if it is anything you need.
-Keep up the work, more updates!

 

[mouseman89]

-You get the aggro of creeps/towers all the time, with no reason, i can have a creepwave that is attacking a tower, but when i just come near it, it starts to attack me, same with the supercreeps (at least the big turtle one).

units attack other units first, instead of buildings( even if the buildings attack if there in a middle of attacking a tower, if you go close to them they will target you, just how wc3 works...

 

[Hemske]

I didn't really got what you meant, but it is not correct, and even if it would be correct, that can be fixed with some basic triggering. (for example dota, creeps/towers changes attacktarget to me only if i attack another hero) But maybe i was unclear with what i meant, thanks for pointing that out.

I mean like this; If two normal creep waves is attacking each other, and i just go close (just standing besides them, not even attacking them) to them during their battle. They just ignore the creeps they are currently attacking to attack me. And that is not how it should be, they should at least finish their target before beginning to attack me.

 

[mouseman89]

if its a tower... they come off and attack you but for the units... i have no idea.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Thanks for the feedback. I am working on a patch atm that will include the following:

- 11+ new items (all either end-game or beginning items)
- Bug fixes (including some important fixes to the Worgen and Shaman heroes)
- 2 new heroes
- Removed the archer creeps' cone ability

On a side note:
- you can use -stats to check your ms, spellpower, and spell crit
- you can use -quests to check the killcount for your quests (but I am considering doing a quest log so as to also include descriptions)
- i'll see what I can do about implementing a tower intelligence

 

[Hemske]

Thanks for the feedback. I am working on a patch atm that will include the following:

- 11+ new items (all either end-game or beginning items)
- Bug fixes (including some important fixes to the Worgen and Shaman heroes)
- 2 new heroes
- Removed the archer creeps' cone ability

On a side note:
- you can use -stats to check your ms, spellpower, and spell crit
- you can use -quests to check the killcount for your quests (but I am considering doing a quest log so as to also include descriptions)
- i'll see what I can do about implementing a tower intelligence

Sounds nice

About the stats and quests, oh, well, then it was just me that didn't found out how to see it then.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Sounds nice

About the stats and quests, oh, well, then it was just me that didn't found out how to see it then.

Patch has been implemented I actually ended up adding 3 new heroes and removing a total of three creep abilities. I am really psyched about the new items ;0

 

[Raging Ent]

Will check out nighty!

 

[RouGe_WiZaRD]

wohohohohoho this map can be ranked from average to best.........
i have played the older version 5 times and its a good map............

good luck on this project

 

[ravewarheit]

Nice update.

Here to report some things (again) though.


There's a spot on the right side of the Ancient of Lore in the middle lane where you can get stuck after teleporting.

Major glitch in the Ogre Idol item. It doesn't give the +22 spellpower, and if you drop the item, it actually REDUCES spellpower PERMANENTLY.

The Pocket Clock is too glitchy. Really. Every time I use it, every hero in the map gets their position randomly switched. It also resets its own cooldown.

Blacksmith's Devastate skill deals more damage than it should. The explosions overlap and actually deal damage twice (maybe even 3x, I'm not sure).


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That's all for now.
Other than these bugs, I liked the update with the new heroes and items.

 

[Raging Ent]

I dunno, maybe it was just me but creeps and towers always focussed my hero? That's gonna be a pain when laning..

 

[N1ghthawk]

@ ravewarheit

There's a spot on the right side of the Ancient of Lore in the middle lane where you can get stuck after teleporting.

Fixed.

Major glitch in the Ogre Idol item. It doesn't give the +22 spellpower, and if you drop the item, it actually REDUCES spellpower PERMANENTLY.

Fixed.

The Pocket Clock is too glitchy. Really. Every time I use it, every hero in the map gets their position randomly switched. It also resets its own cooldown.

Working on making this smoother.

Blacksmith's Devastate skill deals more damage than it should. The explosions overlap and actually deal damage twice (maybe even 3x, I'm not sure).

Fixed.

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Will update here in an hour or so.

Thanks for the report mate, +rep ;8



@Naro

I am still working on a tower intelligence (implementation isn't difficult, but making a fair design is)

 

[Raging Ent]

But not just the towers did, the creeps did as well =o

 

[N1ghthawk]

But not just the towers did, the creeps did as well =o

Well the creeps just have the normal WC3 AI, which means they don't try and focus on heroes - maybe your just unlucky ?


EDIT - btw, solved both the watchmaster problems

 

[Raging Ent]

I am *tries a emo hairdo*

 

[N1ghthawk]

I am *tries a emo hairdo*

Or a four-leaf clover


EDIT - Map has been updated

 

[Spoontoobig]

Increadible game...

 

[Black.Tige]

Too bad I'm unable to play it -.- but maybe you can help me

If i try hosting the game in localnetwork with a friend and we start it, it always says : "You have been lagzord(disconnected)"
to the one who did not host it.

 

[hardcore]

You should really fix the teleport locations I get stuck really often.
Actually there are at least 2 places where you can get stuck by walking in...one happened to me and another to ai.
Beside that i like the new items and the terrain still looks great.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Increadible game...

TY

You have been lagzord(disconnected)

There is a newer version after the one you have, but DLing it won't fix your problem.

Are you by chance using a mac?

You should really fix the teleport locations I get stuck really often.
Actually there are at least 2 places where you can get stuck by walking in...one happened to me and another to ai.
Beside that i like the new items and the terrain still looks great.

I'll see what I can't do

 

[EditorJustin]

Very good map have made

 

[N1ghthawk]

Very good map have made

thanks mate, and ty for the rating

I will likely update with a new version this weekend that will include some rebalancing, new low-level items, bug fixes, and perhaps a new hero.

 

[Black.Tige]

Hm no I'm not. I got Xp and my mate uses Vista.
We also tryed the latest Version but it seems to be a quite specific problem because when we tryed it with 3 people playing only one gets disconnected.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Hm no I'm not. I got Xp and my mate uses Vista.
We also tryed the latest Version but it seems to be a quite specific problem because when we tryed it with 3 people playing only one gets disconnected.

I'll see what I can do.

You've ruled out a problem with a specific connection on your end?

 

[Black.Tige]

Hm its just that we always play via hamachi in local network and i know there can be some truble with such connections and Warcraft.
But it works just fine with other maps and just this one appears not to work.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Hm its just that we always play via hamachi in local network and i know there can be some truble with such connections and Warcraft.
But it works just fine with other maps and just this one appears not to work.

I'll work on this :9

If anybody else is having network problems please inform me so I know

 

[CyberDuelX16]

I like the direction this map is going in, keep it up!

NOTE: I don't seem to be having the connection problem, i mainly use Battle.Net and Garena (Are those effected)

Review - Strife of Elves V2.13

Things I Liked ---
[+] - Nice Selection Of Heroes
[+] - Loved The Spells
[+] - Shiny Special Effects =D

Things I Disliked ---
[-] - Maiden Heal Too Powerful (Especially on Heroes)
[-] - Tower Regeneration (Maybe make a building that regenerates it, so that when it dies the tower stops regenerating?)
[-] - Units Too Strong At Start

Bugs ---
[-] - Recipe Shop 3 Quest (Either you put the animation on the wrong unit, but if you didn't there's too many items that he sells so the "Interact" function was replaced)

 

[N1ghthawk]

Thanks for the review mate

Next version will have the tower regeneration as a game mode and not as an automatic function. I am also slightly boosting base hero damage and slightly nerfing the health, damage, and armor of all creeps in the beginning (though there will be a more advanced upgrade system available).

Bug has been fixed and will be in the next version.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Sounds good.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Things I Disliked ---
[-] - Maiden Heal Too Powerful (Especially on Heroes)
[-] - Tower Regeneration (Maybe make a building that regenerates it, so that when it dies the tower stops regenerating?)
[-] - Units Too Strong At Start

All have been fixed/rebalanced.

Bugs ---
[-] - Recipe Shop 3 Quest (Either you put the animation on the wrong unit, but if you didn't there's too many items that he sells so the "Interact" function was replaced)

Too many items lawl . Quest will be moved to Recipe Shop 1 in the next version.

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If i try hosting the game in localnetwork with a friend and we start it, it always says : "You have been lagzord(disconnected)"
to the one who did not host it.

I am still scowering through the triggering to find something that could possibly cause this. If you happen to read this, would you mind checking to see if it was always the same player slot that was disconnected.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Glad to be of help =D

 

[Black.Tige]

It was not the same playerslot but the same player always got disconntcted.
I played it with someone else and it worked fine.

 

[N1ghthawk]

It was not the same playerslot but the same player always got disconntcted.
I played it with someone else and it worked fine.

It may have been a problem with his comp that prevented him from playing my map specifically b/c it is stuffed with so many effects and other pretty colors.

On a side not I have implemented a new hero stat in the next version called "magic defense" that works in the exact opposite manner of spellpower and decreases ability damage done to you. I have also implemented two new items to supplement the new stat.

 

[Lungdrache]

Nive map! Nice Idea!

 

[N1ghthawk]

Nive map! Nice Idea!

Thanks mate

 

[CyberDuelX16]

I'll play the update in a bit =D

 

[N1ghthawk]

I'll play the update in a bit =D

Please inform me of any bugs, problems, or errors if you find them

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Will Do!

---Saved for Review---

 

[dead-man-walking]

Well, this Map is pecking awesome. I like how "small" are heroes on the beginning, and getting stronger and stronger as time passes through (Unlike one popular AoS Map *coughdotaCOUGH*). Although sometimes I feel that the AI is pure stupid (But challenging at times, 'specially Warlock). And to top, the Terrain. Oh my god. That's a natural talent.

The small number of heroes doesn't really matter, as they are properly balanced. Spells are also nicely Triggered (Although the Maiden's Carrion Swarm variant's damage is pure Weh-Teh-Feh).

I forgot to give a Rep. And a 5/5 Rating. Keep it up.
(And maybe make an RPG or something)

 

[CyberDuelX16]

(And maybe make an RPG or something)

I was thinkin that too! =D

 

[Ryvawolf]

When I select this name in custom games. It doesn't load it for some reason. This happened for many maps I tried to play so I would like an answer on why.

 

[N1ghthawk]

When I select this name in custom games. It doesn't load it for some reason. This happened for many maps I tried to play so I would like an answer on why.

Since your having problems with multiple maps, this should really be in the WE question thread, but have you checked to make sure you've updated War3 and downloaded all the patches?

 

[Drazhar]

This map is awesome dude, like it a lot more than DoTA . As such, you have to work with your team more, where as in DoTA everyone is kinda just out for themselves.

Have you considered adding more heroes?

love the map, keep up the good work

 

[Ssilhouette]

Nice, looking for more new heroes.

 

[MogulKahn]

I played with Blacksmith and I think this skin fits better for him http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...king-blp-86473/?prev=search=dwarf&d=list&r=20 ,because current BS looks like dead undead dwarf ( I think this is DK dwarf skin) !
And you have proper icon for this skin, now your BM have painted Avatar icon !

 

[hayatesasaki]

ROFLMAO!! XD
"Q: I find this game boring and a lot like DotA a boring and generic AoS type map.
A: Your doing it wrong"
lol nice