Starcraft II Second Beta Phase – Patch 16 (v0.19.0.15976)

[Mille25]

i dont care about if bnet works or not, but if it would be atleast online i could authenticate my account and use the editor... but like this i cant do anything. i hope this evening it will be online ~~

 

[viiva]

I don't think a mod will keep updating this thread, just go to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121265
That thread is updated every 5 minutes.

 

[Tleno]

wat

Oh my, they added so much portraits! Even campaing ones! Even the Tauren marine! And some terran robo-dog! And... some crazy marines with animals masks... well, probably those are members of some elite marines quad or something...

Edit: Okay, since I noticed Pyritie already mentioned that I'll tell what I really wanted to say: Fucking Furry Marines!

Oh, anf those achievemnt icons can be used as just icons too, so that colourful or one-colour icon problem is solved!

 

[Dr Super Good]

EU servers are still down, I can't help but feel like they are treating Europe as if it is the developing world.

 

[Rui]

That's one way of looking at the situation, DSG. They could also be treating us above America; the Americans get to eat the bugs first and we Europeans will have it working just fine when it's open for us.
But, like I said, the reason they haven't opened our server yet is most likely because the storm of complaints they're getting is already big enough. Open the other servers, and here's a tornado.
I know the cons succumb to the benefits, but see things for their positive side: at least Battle.Net will be functioning better by the time we're allowed to use it. Which shouldn't be so long; if they're indeed trying to avoid more complaints, they probably don't want to face a typhoon for noticeable unfairness.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Oh my, they added so much portraits! Even campaing ones! Even the Tauren marine! And some terran robo-dog! And... some crazy marines with animals masks... well, probably those are members of some elite marines quad or something...

Not a robot, I think that's one of Mengsk's bulldogs. I have a desire to see portraits animated. Plain picture isnt fun.

 

[Hero_Lief]

I can't update drivers, Stathisdjs and Billy_The_Cat, because I'm not on Windows. It's not as simple.

 

[Rui]

I was going to suggest driver update as well. It is very possible that it is the cause.

 

[Tleno]

It would be lame if I required an internet connection to edit/make maps. Sometimes when my internet is down all I do is work on a map :/ Meh...

Same here. If there's only a need to verify it once it shouldn't be a problem.

Yup, vertification just once doesn't sound SO bad. But I still have a weird feeling about all this...

 

[Hero_Lief]

It probably IS a driver problem, Rui. I'm on Linux, however. There aren't any newer NVidia drivers (yes, NVidia makes official linux drivers), however I could try a temporary rollback to a slightly earlier version and see if it even loads.

 

[Trilby]

wat

Under the Stalker portrait, and next to the carrier.
Tassadar has returned :O

 

[Hero_Lief]

Ohh, I can update. Turns out I'm running 195.36.24 when the newest is really 256.35. Time to update.

 

[HINDYhat]

Here are some of the unlisted balance changes:

Taken from another SC2 forum


Creep Tumors take 30 seconds before it can create another Creep Tumor, up from 15. bug?

lololol posted that:
Zealot buildtime increased from 33 to 38 and cooldown increased from 23 to 28.
Reaper buildtime increased from 40 to 45.
Psi storm cooldown decreased from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds.

Units get trapped by Force Fields considerably easier it seems (confirm?)

BUG: Changelings appear red to opponents after morphing to "blend in" with enemy.

Neural Parasite lasts about 12-ish in-game seconds.

Roaches can no longer move under Force Fields while burrowed!!!!

The 2 Roach Warren upgrades, Glial Reconstitution and Tunneling Claws have had their hotkeys swapped. it's now T and G, respectively. argh

Infested Terrans lasts 30 seconds (up from 20).

Infested Terran spell can now be cast while Infestor is Burrowed.

Stalkers can no longer blink up cliffs blocked by rocks without vision, nor are they able to blink across unpassable terrain (i.e. can no longer blink to islands)


Replays speeds are now Normal-Fast-Faster-x2-x4-x8 (before I think it was Slower, Slow, Normal, Fast, Faster, Faster x3, Faster x6. correct?)


Cybernetics Core now has a research animation.

Larvae no longer count as a Unit (doesn't show up in the Unit display tab while watching replays or Observing)

Overlords (and i'm assuming the other race's dropships) now move to pickup units. Meaning, if you have some unit/s selected then Right-Click an Overlord, both the units and the overlord will meet up to Load, rather than just the unit/s moving, just like SC1.

Critters now roam the maps.

Attack Cooldown values listed in tooltips, when mousing over weapons.

Overlord Generate Creep sound effect seems much quieterLast edit: 2010-07-08 19:45:51


Not listed but also noted in the thread

Spawning pool build time decreased by 5

Barracks build time increased by 5

 

[Arhowk]

Lol. for NA, everything is working except leauges. Loll. if any1 wants2 add, my no. is 672

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

'Oh noes, what will i do w/o reapers as if i use them so much' >_<

We have critters, nice. They are playing volleyball with the Infested Terran ability it seems. I cant make any associations using numbers for identifiers, maybe will be my bday

If the servers are that screwed up, it is possible they won't open the Europe and Asian servers so soon.

So maybe it is the same old blizzard doing delays, something tells me EU bnet must have started and something went wrong ^.^

 

[Just_Spectating]

the critters are awesome

 

[mrzwach]

Infested Terran is lolwut. At first it was good, then they made it suck, and now they are buffing it so that it is even better than before they originally nerfed it?

On a side note, the way Terran units load/unload from Medivacs now is pretty awesome.


Also, they added a bunch of new animations for some units. For example, Ghosts have a "spell" animation which is basically the ghost attacking with a lightsaber or some shit. I'm pretty sure marines got a new animation, but I don't have the editor open for me to check.

Another note: screenshots have a different naming format. Pretty sure its timestamped or something now.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Sigh..... Still down....

Why are they treating Europe like its a developing world?

 

[Hero_Lief]

It's not a driver problem, it's a problem in WINE. I updated my drivers, and it got worse. It wouldn't even open in the first place. I suppose I have to wait for retail with OpenGL rendering.

 

[Nillere]

Why are they treating Europe like its a developing world?

Aye, it's pissing me off

 

[HINDYhat]

Sigh..... Still down....

Why are they treating Europe like its a developing world?

They aren't.

They're treating it like it's a developing continent.

 

[Doctor-Pepper]

Ye, blizzard rlly likes europe. 1st getting us excited about the new updates and then keeping us 3 days without World Editor, because u need to use a login that doesnt work.
I also dont care about BNEt so much, but i do have a deadline in few days for our team map, and we are all use the GB servers.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Sigh..... Still down....

Why are they treating Europe like its a developing world?

Yes and you can't enter their beta forums, so a completely squelched Europe /maybe because on the west they need to get some skill advantage/

 

[Doctor-Pepper]

True, US rlly does need some advantage time to keep up with europe. But i dont think 2 days will cut it

 

[Statharas]

Hah. Silly Americans... We got tons of maps we need to make compartible with the new version of the beta. You have to find how to create a unit via triggers.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Good to know that I must not update if wanting to use editor further.

 

[Just_Spectating]

Good to know that I must not update if wanting to use editor further.

its not that,

you can still use the editor, it's just that some of the data editor values that you may have preset in one of your maps you have been making before could have gotten fudged up.

luckily i didn't make tooo many, and i fixed everything. the editor still works.

 

[Billy the Cat]

its not that,

you can still use the editor, it's just that some of the data editor values that you may have preset in one of your maps you have been making before could have gotten fudged up.

luckily i didn't make tooo many, and i fixed everything. the editor still works.

You need to log in to Battle.net to use the editor. Battle.net is out of service on 2 out of 3 servers so you can't log in and therefore not use the editor if you update if you aren't on the right server.

 

[Just_Spectating]

You need to log in to Battle.net to use the editor. Battle.net is out of service on 2 out of 3 servers so you can't log in and therefore not use the editor if you update if you aren't on the right server.

bummer.

NA server works though.

 

[Rui]

Even though the server hasn't opened for us, this message now displays on the left board:

We are aware of the issues that are affecting players, and we are actively investigating the issues at this time. During this time the service may be restarted to address these issues. Thank you for your patience.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Finally some progress. Hopefully it will be online soon asd otherwise it will be Monday for us before we see the new patch working (can not test it until then).

 

[Rui]

It seems the same message is now being displayed for Asia.
So, it is either them trying to fix the bugs that popped up for North America or Imtor was right about something going wrong.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Id say its a more generic appology. If not.....

 

[Aeroblyctos]

WARNING - To use the editor, you must now log in on your account. (Requires Internet Connection)

What dÖ fuck? What a fail.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Meh, I have permant connection like most people should. If you do not have one, what are you even doing with a multiplayer game? Yes it does have single player but that is once off activation only.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Yea, of course. But what if I want to make maps in a train without internet access? Or in a cottage for example? I especially do maps when I'm out of "internet reach".

 

[Billy the Cat]

Yea, of course. But what if I want to make maps in a train without internet access? Or in a cottage for example? I especially do maps when I'm out of "internet reach".

Same here. That's why I'm hoping it's only needed once to activate it.
Can anyone able to use the editor confirm this for me?

 

[mrzwach]

I just disconnected my router and closed/reopened my editor, works perfectly fine offline after you have validated :\

So yeah, you can edit maps offline, you just have to connect to the Internet once to validate your editor and shit.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Well, those places are becomming few and far between but I do agree that that would be pretty strict. Thus why I seriously doubt the release version will have it.

 

[mrzwach]

This version doesn't have it either. The only reason you would not be able to edit maps offline is if you had no access to the internet ever. I mean, you could probably walk into an internet cafe and validate it there or something >__>

 

[Dr Super Good]

Sorry but us Europeans can not try it for locical reasons of there never having been a server to activate with ever.

 

[Statharas]

GOD BLESS YOU BLIZZARD! Now... FIRE UP THE EDITORS BOYS!

{EDIT}
EU server is up!

 

[HINDYhat]

Good list of stealth changes in patch 16: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-vGi6hp5ZU

 

[Just_Spectating]

infestors are beast

 

[Rui]

{UPDATE}
Some people are having trouble connecting to the Europe server. Either the server's having problems or they're simply restarting it periodically, like the message informs.

 

[Billy the Cat]

{UPDATE}
Some people are having trouble connecting to the Europe server. Either the server's having problems or they're simply restarting it periodically, like the message informs.

I have been able to connect. Took me a few minutes though to do so.

kk can i log into your DSStudios acount? and if not named can i name is DSStudios

What is this I don't even?

 

[Rui]

{REPORT}
The server is definitely going offline once in a while. Interestingly, people who are already online do not get disconnected. The menus (achievements, game invitations, portraits...) are loading quite slowly at the moment.
We have also experienced a strange bug. We created a 3vs3 game as a party, and after the game ended and a few people left the party, I attempted to create a game but it wouldn't allow me. «0 players ready» it said.

EDIT (11:10 AM): The server just TOSSed me out
Everything was running slowly. Perhaps they disconnected me for inviting someone more times than necessary. ;P

EDIT 2 (11:50 AM): Battle.Net displayed this message a while ago (for Europe):

There is a temporary outage of the Battle.Net service. Please try again later.

EDIT 3 (11:55 AM): Debode reports having a «GLOBAL_INTERNAL_ERROR». It seems it's just Battle.Net's way of saying it's unavailable. I attempted to log on again and it said Battle.Net is temporary unavailable.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Same here. That's why I'm hoping it's only needed once to activate it.
Can anyone able to use the editor confirm this for me?

Good point. One of the purposes of having a gaming laptop is to go high in the mountains/forest/villa/cottage where you might not have connection and do some sc2 stuff offline. Pff blizztard

 

[Deolrin]

I didn't even have to authenticate my Editor. I logged in to SC2 and since then my Editor is activated.

 

[mrzwach]

Infestors are a bit imba now, by the way. Though I don't really think zerg need it, its nice to have 4 or 5 burrowed infestors dump 32 IT's on a guys mineral line simultaneously. Gotta love retarded Terran players that don't build Ravens.

EDIT: Also, I can't even login via the editor, I just logged in on bnet instead and that validated it.