Spells & Systems Mini-Contest #18

[Justify]

There are millions of ideas
inwarcraft.de had some TIOs for a long time (trigger it out), the last one was about some sort of movement detection system.
Whenever a unit moves in a triangle, rectangle or a pentagram it should show a message or something and which it was quite fun^^
I think there would be enough stuff to do :O

 

[xD.Schurke]

There are millions of ideas
inwarcraft.de had some TIOs for a long time (trigger it out), the last one was about some sort of movement detection system.
Whenever a unit moves in a triangle, rectangle or a pentagram it should show a message or something and which it was quite fun^^
I think there would be enough stuff to do :O

amen

 

[Palaslayer]

argh what a horrible idea!!! plz, dont do that to me...

 

[spiwn]

A harvesting system: a system similar to Blizzard's lumber harvesting system, not neccessary about lumber - any destructible could do( strone, food etc), allowing tha map maker to detect when the resource has been harvested by the worker and when it has been deposited.

 

[Palaslayer]

too difficult. what do you wanna harvest from? doodads? the system would have to include all of them and only units can be targeted by abilities....

I*d really like to have the results soon..

 

[xD.Schurke]

only because it's for you too difficult doesn't mean that otheres would wouldn't be interessted in such a theme

 

[Palaslayer]

this would limit the spells and systems contest to the good scripters

i do not say i cannot do it, but a lot of people here couldnt...

 

[spiwn]

too difficult. what do you wanna harvest from? doodads? the system would have to include all of them and only units can be targeted by abilities....

not neccessary about lumber - any destructible could do( strone, food etc)

I can't seem to find the big difficulty.

P.s. You are thinkingg too much inside the box, who said anything about targeting something with an ability. That is how Blizzard did it, not how we must do it.

 

[xD.Schurke]

you know, in a contest you always should give 100% and also in the spell&system mini contest you have to do a good script elsewise you can't win, and that would be the same for systems, you can create a system in many diffrent ways, some are better some are not in the end the best would win...
so what is the big diffrence between system contest and spell contest => nothing, also not that good scripters could make it

 

[Kingz]

I think systems are too much time consuming...
Anyway i am still for a spell combo idea...

 

[xD.Schurke]

systems doesn't take much more time then spells

 

[Kingz]

Depending on the system...
And a contest system where everyone tries to make the best one, yeah it would took pretty much of time...

 

[xD.Schurke]

the usual 2 weeks would be enough

 

[Kingz]

Considering you have free time, some of the contestants here uploaded there spells on the last day or day before so i think system contest is not a good idea...
Still i don't care put it in a pool and we will see...

 

[Palaslayer]

stacking theme!!!

 

[Dynasti]

My beard is growing faster than the review of these contest spells

 

[Zack1996]

Lets have an "Item Selling" Theme. You create a system to sell items, simple?
Anyway, I can't wait for the results even though I didn't participate...

 

[spiwn]

Yeap, a trade system.
And some more: inventory system, skill system, attribute system, combat system, a Large-do-it-for-you spell system

 

[xD.Schurke]

Yeap, a trade system.
And some more: inventory system, skill system, attribute system, combat system, a Large-do-it-for-you spell system

some nice ideas, but I think your last point realy would take a long time

 

[Just_Spectating]

If the Speed Mapping contest results are up before this one, I will start to lose some patience.

 

[-JonNny]

What ? have a bit more patience
There are many spells in this contest and if you cant find any time because of your RL its kinda hard
i mean... im waiting for more than a half year for the results of the Spell Olympics on Wc3c for now , 2 month ago they said that they did not even start in the first 4 month... the end of this contest was ~2 weeks ago

 

[Paladon]

Believe me, judging contests is hard.
And spells are definitely not easy to judge.
I judged a Paired Mapping Contest last year here, and it was a though piece of work.
The contest had three entries.
And here..are more.

Just have a bit patience, you are not able to accelerate the judging process by posting how excited you are to see the results.
We all are.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

You should be glad someone is actually hosting this contest.

 

[-Berz-]

Gimme, gimme results NOW! -.-'

As I said, Hanky has a real life, give him time.

 

[Palaslayer]

i wont

 

[Paladon]

i wont

You will.

 

[Palaslayer]

i have to i guess, eh.

 

[Paladon]

i have to i guess, eh.

You will.

 

[Just_Spectating]

spam?'

So we can't start a new one till this one is over huh>

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Just_Spectating, you can start one yourself. It won't have the same award and it will probably not be stickied, but it will let you and the others do something else while you wait.

 

[Palaslayer]

eh, are the results already out in another thread and i missed them?

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Hanky will concentrate on this contest this week (at least so he said). Keep in mind that he is a really busy man!

 

[Kingz]

I can't belive this hapens to me everytime i do something...
Anyway what happened? I came to an idea to implement dynamic index recycling and loop index reduction and i did, actualy it took me 20 minutes to do so -.-
And when do i get the idea, right after the contest, *sigh* my spell would be at least 50-100% more efficent if i did that right away...

 

[Mage_Goo]

well, i'm use half of my time to develop my own MUI system. And it not even finished.

 

[Kingz]

I have seen it and it looks complex, do you plan on using all those triggers?

 

[Paladon]

That's the way it happens

Believe me, i am ashamed for my first spell submission (mini contest).

EDIT: And i am developing another mui system as well.

Arrayed arrays. Double arrays.
Very useful.

 

[Kingz]

Nice, GUI right?
Anyway i think the current state of my indexing can't be any better, it uses the basic of Paladons and:
-recycling of indexes, example(1,2,5,4,3,...,5,3,2,1)
-loop index reduction, example(if maximum number array in a loop isn't used it gets reduced immediatly)

I tested this on my missile system, spawning 6 missiles per cast as quickly as i can the index value never reached 60.

 

[Paladon]

Nah, vjass and gui.

 

[Kingz]

I knew it, cause i tried that in GUI already(i had an idea with an Gamecache but meh i learned the normal indexing) and it can't be made in GUI only and i know you don't really need indexing in vJass due to structs.

 

[Mage_Goo]

Nah, vjass and gui.

You must be a very well talented triggerer. I have learned JASS a bit and getting confused. But you have learn vJASS, very great.....

I have seen it and it looks complex, do you plan on using all those triggers?

Of course! It use some minor function like arranging array, get the lowest integer, etc.

 

[Kingz]

Well good luck on that, both of you^^
@Anyone interested
I am soon gona start a challenge agains MistAssass, just waiting for it to get aproved.
The theme is sacrifice and anyone interested is welcome to comment about the spells when they are done.

 

[Paladon]

Hehe.
I am talking about doubled arrays.
Arrayed arrays.

Structs are single arrays.
And i will use the following way:

I will store all variables (units,groups,effects,..) in strings!
The string will contain a specific code then, and the system reads the string code.

I have no idea how to handle that exactly, but i may find a way if i try around

EDIT:

You must be a very well talented triggerer. I have learned JASS a bit and getting confused. But you have learn vJASS, very great.....

I have never learned Jass xD

I used to use GUI and switched to vJass in some hours.

 

[Mage_Goo]

Hehe.
I am talking about doubled arrays.
Arrayed arrays.

Structs are single arrays.
And i will use the following way:

I will store all variables (units,groups,effects,..) in strings!
The string will contain a specific code then, and the system reads the string code.

I have no idea how to handle that exactly, but i may find a way if i try around

Let me guess, you use prefix to check what type of that variable, am i right? Like Unit_Name to unit, etc. it must be very great!

I have never learned Jass xD

I used to use GUI and switched to vJass in some hours.

Great, i want to switch like that too, but i can't.

 

[Paladon]

It is easy.

I simply started by making a GUI trigger (respawn).
Then i converted it into the custom text.

Then i started optimizing, avoiding bj functions, all the lines.
Voila, i learned a bit Jass.

Then i investigated the differences between Jass and vJass.
Thus i optimized the code even more and that's it.

I spent 3 hours, but that worths it.

 

[Mage_Goo]

It is easy.

I simply started by making a GUI trigger (respawn).
Then i converted it into the custom text.

Then i started optimizing, avoiding bj functions, all the lines.
Voila, i learned a bit Jass.

Then i investigated the differences between Jass and vJass.
Thus i optimized the code even more and that's it.

I spent 3 hours, but that worths it.

Like other says:
Don't create a GUI trigger then optimize it, create it from scratch is more faster.
I learn JASS just like your way, but I'm seriously getting confused afterward

 

[xD.Schurke]

paladon, arrayed arrays hmm... it sounds like 2D arrays and they already exsist in vJass ;D
integer array bla [10][10]

 

[Paladon]

Like other says:
Don't create a GUI trigger then optimize it, create it from scratch is more faster.

Of course i do it from scratch. It's just how i learned it.

paladon, arrayed arrays hmm... it sounds like 2D arrays and they already exsist in vJass ;D
integer array bla [10][10]

Nah, another kind.
I am planning to store a couple of variable information into a string, offering an "Encode" function and a "Decode" function.

 

[Eccho]

Why didnt I learn Jass in a few hours >.>?

 

[Paladon]

I tried it before by using tutorials and i gave it up.

It was suddenly really easy.

 

[Eccho]

Yeah... now I cant understand why it was so hard^^