Round Table of Arkain

[Shar Dundred]

So much hate, remember that this leads to the Dark Side.
And remember that Rahandir may throw a meteor on you.

 

[LISBOAH]

And please tell him he deserves to get his body cut in half by the fleshtearer, after which Harmos should cast a level 50 Rain of Fire on his body to make sure he is permanetly dead.
Lying is bad, so he better not repeat the same lie twice.

To kill Aridon, you would require either another of the Four or a spell compared to a nuke. Or maybe both, and then send whatever remains to a black hole.

So much hate, remember that this leads to the Dark Side.
And remember that Rahandir may throw a meteor on you.

I am already on the Dark Side.

Good luck. I watched 'Armageddon' and 'Deep Impact' and know the plot of FF7, which grants me Instant Immunity to Meteors

 

[Shar Dundred]

To kill Aridon, you would require either another of the Four or a spell compared to a nuke. Or maybe both, and then send whatever remains to a black hole.

When talking about the Four, think about this:
How many of them are actually gone?

I am already on the Dark Side.

You are Team Undead, Rahandir wouldn't throw anything on you. I think.

 

[LISBOAH]

When talking about the Four, think about this:
How many of them are actually gone?

The Dark One is slowly recovering.
The Demon God should be dead, but I noticed that in the map there is a fortress with his name, so maybe he survived.
The Shadowed One is dead and parts of him were absorbed by Brian. So maybe Brian is the new Shadowed One?
The last is Aridon himself.

You are Team Undead, Rahandir wouldn't throw anything on you. I think.

YAY!

 

[Shar Dundred]

The Dark One is slowly recovering.
The Demon God should be dead, but I noticed that in the map there is a fortress with his name, so maybe he survived.
The Shadowed One is dead and parts of him were absorbed by Brian. So maybe Brian is the new Shadowed One?
The last is Aridon himself.

Then tell me:
How to kill them again?

 

[LISBOAH]

Then tell me:
How to kill them again?

This is tricky. These guys are harder to kill than the Taken from 'The Black Company' series.

Overkill Options:
-Absorb all magic in Arkain to a crystal and make a gigantic bomb that kills everything in an entire continent
-Imprison them on another dimension and hoping that they kill each other
-Summon the Chaos Gods from Warhammer universe
-Summon Sargeras
-Recruit God-Slayers from the Fairy Tail universe

 

[Shar Dundred]

Jokes aside, they are not invincible, else Aridon would just wander around and kill everything that is standing in his way.
Yet, it is true that it is not easy to kill them - it is hard to kill a higher ranking dreadlord, it is even harder to kill one of them.

The Demon God tore the Dark One apart with bare hands and yet the other one was not completely gone.
At the same time, the Four were relatively young still by their standards as divine, ageless beings.
They were capable of using their powers, but had not utilized their use yet, you could say.
That is not entirely true, but you get what I am saying, I am sure.

 

[LISBOAH]

Jokes aside, they are not invincible, else Aridon would just wander around and kill everything that is standing in his way.

-If I do remember, Aridon got weakened after the blast that nearly destroyed the Demon Realm.
-He might know his limitations and doesn't wish to make himself the main target for the mortals in the entire Arkain
-He must be paranoid that some of the other Four survived

Yet, it is true that it is not easy to kill them - it is hard to kill a higher ranking dreadlord, it is even harder to kill one of them.

So basically they can't be killed by mortals' hands. The cannon built by Marin couldn't even kill Kersidar... and apparently the Ogre commanding the Dominion forces too.

 

[Championfighter25]

it is hard to kill a higher ranking dreadlord,

2 shadows and 1 Brian walk into a gate of hell, stand there, green thing comes out, Dreadlord dies. Sounds easy to me.

Spoiler

I know the Purificator heavily injured him, making it much easier for him to permanently stay dead.

 

[LISBOAH]

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I know the Purificator heavily injured him, making it much easier for him to permanently stay dead.

Yes, but still... The Purificator that can destroy everything on a large area and fire at stuff until the Void could only injure him, and he was still hard to defeat in the final mission.

Aridon or any other of the Four would not only survive the blast but most likely have very few minor wounds.

 

[subzz]

Sorry guys I was off grid for few months. Has @Shar Dundred started his work on 2 nd orc book? Thanks.

 

[Championfighter25]

@subzz I suggest you read the latest news on the Arkain News Network
Also, these things may interest you, if you haven't seen them already:
Worldmap of Arkain
The Official Arkain Timeline [SPOILER]
The Tales of Arkain thread also has 2 new short stories you should check out.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Speaking of Tales of Arkain:
Arkain News Network

 

[LISBOAH]

Speaking of Tales of Arkain:
Arkain News Network

Just read it.

Spoiler

Wow hearing Marin's part made him somewhat similar to Shockwave from Transformers. He is a scientific genius that follows an arrogant warrior that believes his cause to be right, and most of his actions are done out of logic.
So I guess the Golden Guard will either go and join the Dwarves or maybe join the Kingdom of Kerrel once things with Gardon go south?



Coming up next: Sir Praxeus and the Holy Grail! Starring Sir Praxeus, Tanara and Nysara. And as guest stars, King Arthur and his knights, played by Monty Python!

Is Nysara related to Lisara? Because their name is kind of similar.

Irony at its finest. Sir Praxeus, the one that should embody Light at its finest,has become a pawn for the very Darkness he sought to destroy.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Spoiler

Is Nysara related to Lisara? Because their name is kind of similar.

Irony at its finest. Sir Praxeus, the one that should embody Light at its finest,has become a pawn for the very Darkness he sought to destroy.

Spoiler

They are not related, no.

And maybe it is a demoness not following the path of darkness but light without knowing it yet?

 

[Championfighter25]

Spoiler

uncounscious -> unconscious
occured -> occurred
A noice -> A noise
Praxeus had head -> Praxeus had heard
refering -> referring
but your are pure -> but you are pure
suceed -> succeed

Guess a substitute to what Rahandir said in 14B needed to be added.
Really surprised she would help him survive. Maybe there are quite a few demons who aren't so bad after all, even if she *may* kill him when he is no longer needed.
Kind of funny how when I read the name the first time, I thought she may be a demon in disguise, mainly because the name didn't sound like that of an angel, and it turned out she was.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Spoiler

Maybe an angel by heart and Demon only by appearance?

 

[LISBOAH]

Spoiler

Maybe an angel by heart and Demon only by appearance?

Spoiler

That would be great. That would mean that not all demons are evil.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I imagine Nysara looking something like this:

 

[LISBOAH]

She seems like a mixture between a human, a demon and a bird.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Remember that she took am angelic like look when she met with Praxeus.

 

[LISBOAH]

Remember that she took am angelic like look when she met with Praxeus.

This is why people shouldn't trust angels. Inside those beautiful faces and bodies that irradiate light and hope, there might be some dark and twisted demons.
For note. I am not referring to literal angels.

And even genuine angels can't be fully trusted. After all Lucifer/Satan was an angel once.

 

[Shar Dundred]

To be fair, as stated in the story, if she had shown her true form, she would have been ignored or even attacked and Praxeus would have chosen a path that would kill him.

 

[Championfighter25]

Convoluted demon plans are convoluted.
Maybe the temple located in the Cold North could have a future part to play in Praxeus' story.

 

[LISBOAH]

Convoluted demon plans are convoluted.
Maybe the temple located in the Cold North could have a future part to play in Praxeus' story.

The young knight will find only death in the Cold North...

 

[Shar Dundred]

Temple in the Cold North?

 

[Championfighter25]

Ok, it's probably a tower and not a temple by the looks of it, but that doesn't mean it still can't play a part in Praxeus' future story.

 

[Championfighter25]

Spoiler: Thoughts on ''Cold War''

The story is told in a weird way to try and discredit both the human kingdoms and the Zyainor empire. Wonder who's the person writing it?
I wonder why Zyainor empire's using so many apostrophes? It's as much of a core part of their empire as black dragons are at this point.
Their school of necromancy will sooner or later see it's destruction. Sad they seem to repeat what history taught them is a bad idea once again.
And yeah, Kerrel is doomed. And if Dorten survives the initial invasion, there is a bigger chance of him dying of old age than seeing his kingdom gain independence once again.

In the next spoiler tag, are errors I've found in ''Cold War'' and all your other short stories.

Spoiler

Rebirth

troops had hold their -> troops had held their

man reached side entrance -> man reached the side entrance

looking forward killing -> looking forward to killing

who were still up were either had -> who were still up either had

just commited -> just committed

The quest rooms -> The guest rooms

could hear laugher -> could hear laughter
-------------------------
Diary of a Soldier

whole existance -> whole existence

As daughter of a farmer -> As the daughter of a farmer

something very importen -> something very important

friends and familie -> friends and family

fight to death for -> fight to the death for
-------------------------
Birth of a World

were seperated -> were separated

vulcanic areas -> volcanic areas

who had forseen -> had foreseen

He had forseen all -> He had foreseen all
-----------------------------
Fate's Hand

uncomfortabley -> uncomfortably

Another sacrafice -> Another sacrifice

unjust existance -> unjust existence

searched franticly -> searched frantically
------------------------------
Aftermath

are franticly -> are frantically

assauge his -> assuage his

usful or -> useful
-----------------------------
Arrival

the sacrafices -> the sacrifices

millenium -> millennium

sharp tounged -> sharp tongued

reprsentative -> representative
---------------------------------
Cold War

powerful politicans -> powerful politicians

stories anway -> stories anyway

end of war -> end of the war

eldest of the thre -> eldest of the three

colleagues approched -> colleagues approached

children seperated -> children separated


''Report'', ''Return'' and ''Survival'' don't have any,

 

[Shar Dundred]

Spoiler

The story is told in a weird way to try and discredit both the human kingdoms and the Zyainor empire. Wonder who's the person writing it?

A noble of Kerrel.

Their school of necromancy will sooner or later see it's destruction. Sad they seem to repeat what history taught them is a bad idea once again.

Keep in mind that it was Aridon who kept the mortal necromancers at bay - or at the very least, it was his command.
He is still in his sanctuary and not interacting with the outside world.

And yeah, Kerrel is doomed. And if Dorten survives the initial invasion, there is a bigger chance of him dying of old age than seeing his kingdom gain independence once again.

Wonder what he'd prefer: Die or be ruled by Zyainor?

 

[LISBOAH]

Spoiler

Gardon's strategy to cause fear could be WAY worse. He could actually have putted the heads of several slain foes hanging on the corridors and rooms.

Or like the Vikings, used the skeletons to create mugs or other stuff.

Or like a Greek tale I once heard, actually served food with pieces of the slain foes.

 

[Verb8im]

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I wasn't sure where to put it. I have a few questions about the choices from Human Book 1 and 2.

-In Book 1, if you deny Gardon's aid, and he doesn't give Salana the amulet, what happens to her in the last level? Last I played, and did that choice, she doesn't show up, which I found weird.

-What's the consequence in Book 2 if Blen killed the black dragon or not?

-What's the consequence of Zarin destroying the Darkmind clan base in Book 1? I know there's a dialogue that Rath has in the Golden Guard mission, but is that it?

 

[LISBOAH]

-In Book 1, if you deny Gardon's aid, and he doesn't give Salana the amulet, what happens to her in the last level? Last I played, and did that choice, she doesn't show up, which I found weird.

When you say last level, do you mean final mission of the Book 1?

-What's the consequence in Book 2 if Blen killed the black dragon or not?

None. They just mention it.

-What's the consequence of Zarin destroying the Darkmind clan base in Book 1? I know there's a dialogue that Rath has in the Golden Guard mission, but is that it?

I think the only difference is that Rath appears as a commander in the Golden Guard map.

Keep in mind that not all choices will actually have an impact on the story.

 

[Verb8im]

When you say last level, do you mean final mission of the Book 1?

Yeah

 

[LISBOAH]

Yeah

I always chose to aid Gardon, so I never saw this.

My guess is that since she never chose Gardon's side, she stayed neutral during the conflict between Gardon and Genethas. That is my opinion.

 

[DevZ]

If you aid Gardon in that Deryl outpost mission Silana is the one attacking Genethas' base and your base if you sided with him, otherwise I believe its Gardon attacking, since Gardon has his 70% damage increasing war aura, if you are fighting against him and he goes to attack your base . . . lets just say you wont be having fun

 

[Verb8im]

If you aid Gardon in that Deryl outpost mission Silana is the one attacking Genethas' base and your base if you sided with him, otherwise I believe its Gardon attacking, since Gardon has his 70% damage increasing war aura, if you are fighting against him and he goes to attack your base . . . lets just say you wont be having fun

Right, but I'm wondering what happens if you DON'T aid Gardon. Last time I played Salana just wasn't in the last level at all, so I was wondering why

 

[Cassandra Jones]

Well, if you don't aid Gardon, then Councillor Birram will lead the attack instead.

 

[Kuras2003]

Does that thread also can be use to write ideas for next arkain updates?

 

[Kasrkin]

Any news on Arkain updates can be found in the Arkain News Network thread at the top of the LoA project forum. As for ideas we don't typically take direct ideas from the threads and I'm not sure if we ever did. That does not mean we don't listen to feedback even if I don't want him to listen to ideas on difficulty adjustment all the time.

You can talk about whatever Arkain related here in the old project thread now called, Round Table of Arkain.

 

[Kuras2003]

So I can say than Makeing Thanok a trainable demi hero is good idea but i should't expect that to be in next arkain update, right?

 

[Kasrkin]

Eh, he's pretty much a cinematic only role and when we worked on the campaigns he never really changed from that even though we had opportunities to do so.

Those who were with us before Lords of the Golden Guard was released know one such oppertunity.

 

[Kuras2003]

Eh, he's pretty much a cinematic only role and when we worked on the campaigns he never really changed from that even though we had opportunities to do so.

Those who were with us before Lords of the Golden Guard was released know one such oppertunity.

I just had idea to make him like 1 limited trainable Super elite:
Give him fastest hp regen.
more dmg and defense
and give him maybe dragon form or something?
And ad him in several missions only, I am not talking to make him in whole campaing

Is it that much trouble? (I am just courius)

 

[Shar Dundred]

It is not about being trouble or difficult, it is about me not wanting Thanok to be a playable unit/hero/demi-hero.

People have been asking many times for him to be playable in Chapter Four, ignoring the fact that you were playing as Lt. Greendale with Thanok being your ally.
The reason was the difficulty of said chapter - that was before its adjustments. Now you have Zed as a semi-hero in that mission.

Apart from me not wanting him to be playable, I don't think he is "needed" in any chapter in any way.

There is of course the possibility that we have a plan for him at some point that could be related with the fact that he was never playable so far...

 

[Kuras2003]

It is not about being trouble or difficult, it is about me not wanting Thanok to be a playable unit/hero/demi-hero.

People have been asking many times for him to be playable in Chapter Four, ignoring the fact that you were playing as Lt. Greendale with Thanok being your ally.
The reason was the difficulty of said chapter - that was before its adjustments. Now you have Zed as a semi-hero in that mission.

Apart from me not wanting him to be playable, I don't think he is "needed" in any chapter in any way.

There is of course the possibility that we have a plan for him at some point that could be related with the fact that he was never playable so far...

Thank you for informing me

 

[Lord Aiden]

So @Shar Dundred are you back to modding?

 

[LISBOAH]

I just read the 'Espionage' short story

Spoiler

So now there is an Empress. Why do I get a feeling that she is Lisara in secret?

Glad to see that the Dominion is finnaly under the control of a reasonable and efficent ruler and that Vanessa's advices were at long last listened.
Wow, they have an university! That is so cool! Take that you racist and prejudiced humans (that includes me in a way )!!

Yep. The Elves are pretty much a dictatorship that is controlled by Zyainor.

I actually support Zyainor's policy of dictating someone's position by accomplishments instead of bloodlines. While I am not 100% against monarchies, I don't like that some people are given power and influence just because they are related someone important or because they have some connections. I am looking at you Lerrig by the way!

What I learnt with this short story is that no matter someone's race, nationality or beliefs, intrigue, rivalry and conflict will always exist among societies. In the case of Rengar, Kerrel and Demons it seems that they might be on the verge of social colapse or civil war.

 

[Kuras2003]

What happend to Largoth?

 

[LISBOAH]

What happend to Largoth?

Who knows? He may still be manipulating the Empire from the shadows or maybe he went to the Kingdoms and started to spread the seeds of conflict and corruption.

 

[Kuras2003]

Who knows? He may still be manipulating the Empire from the shadows or maybe he went to the Kingdoms and started to spread the seeds of conflict and corruption.

Wasn't he emperor himself or did i just missunderstand or forget something?

 

[LISBOAH]

Wasn't he emperor himself or did i just missunderstand or forget something?

He was the emperor, yes. The true Emperor most likely was replaced after Largoth defected the undead.

But now there is an Empress.