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Proposal for More Responsible Staff Members

Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by ~Void~, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. Direfury

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    Things were fine before all the trolling began, though. Those types of members were largely restricted to the request and map development sections, and were, atleast for me, out of sight, and out of mind. This is a site for WC3 modding and mapping, not a daycare.

    Cater to the most important group, not the loudest or most aggravating.
     
  2. anarchianbedlam

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    vermi has brought up some very good points, we need staff members who are willing to help people without trolling. I genuinely do support vermi for a staff position, and I would appreciate it if others would support him as well
     
  3. Crayons

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    correct.

    but sadly ineveitable due to some recent actions.
     
  4. Kingz

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    Just a quick question, how is someone who makes this comment:

    About this:

    A mature person?
    Sorry but a mature person doesn't make fun of other people tragedies, let alone jokes about it.
     
  5. anarchianbedlam

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    kingz, clearly it was a joke, everyone knows that it was a joke, vermillion is still a lot more mature than any other candidate for moderator membership
     
  6. Crayons

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    yes it was a joke.

    still offensive though.
     
  7. Crazed_seal2

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    takakenji is pretty mature when you think about it.

    However. How do you even become a moderator?
     
  8. The Dark Wizard

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    Not by asking or nominating other users, the staff will contact a person should the staff feel that the person in question deserves a mod position.
     
  9. Karawasa

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    It was a joke in very poor taste. It speaks negatively on his supposed maturity. If he is one of the most mature this site has to offer...good luck, you will need it.
     
  10. Fussiler1

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    hmm that doesn't bode very well ..
     
  11. Crayons

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    this marks the end of this moderator application thread.
     
  12. Kingz

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    Not mature enough, if he still thinks he should be making that kind of jokes.
     
  13. Karawasa

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    To bring the thread back on-topic, what just happened is exactly the problem. Maturity is different based on who you ask on this site. Perhaps the majority of people here would consider the guy who made the horrible joke mature. They'd be wrong in my book but since I don't have any say it doesn't matter. If the userbase is immature itself, I find it hard to see how staff selection can remedy that.

    By the way, he may be an asshole and self-serving but TDW is actually mature compared to most people here.
     
  14. Crazed_seal2

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    Ass kissing gets you no where. So I would just stop it.
    Fact is, we all have a small amount of childishness. And children of course, are the most childish. Age doesn't determine maturity, but it does affect it in a way.
     
  15. Karawasa

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    What the fuck? Thanks for the laugh.
     
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  16. Direfury

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    Overall, moderators are supposed to focus on their job, not trying to earn other members' respect, that's best left to regular members who need that sort of elevation. An example, TDW more or less shouldn't care what any of you people think of he's doing his job, which, right now, is complying with "Zero Tolerance" and making sure everyone else follows along.

    On another note, maturity isn't just restraint, it also involves just a little sense, and an even temper, Kingz. Lashing out, in public or private, over something incredibly minor isn't a good example of how mature you might be. Maybe next time, you should probably just send whoever a message when they get your shorts in a twist.


    That aside, if you all really do believe that moderators have to be our babysitters, maybe, just maybe, after the other staff members have come up with a list of potential moderators, specifically community, contest or general forum moderators, a poll could be brought about for us to vote on. Considering these moderators are pretty well forced to put up with us, they're the only ones we really need to know about.

    Resource moderators on the other hand, don't have to say a word to us, as long as they rate resources fairly, or show the general modding community what kind of quality they're looking for, as a benchmarker, through fair ratings, and some useful advice on resources that are rated as 'Lacking'. Favoritism and excessively high standards don't really have a place in the resource sections.

    Moderators are basically observers, with the power to remove the unwanted elements, or keep the peace. They're not elite members, or a police force. They are supposed to be passive until their hand is forced.
     
  17. The Dark Wizard

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    Well spoken.
     
  18. Kitabatake

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    There is no authority without respect.
    A moderator without respect is just another powerabusing moron in the eyes of the community.
     
  19. Asomath

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    Not quite. A moderator is also a user, and as such, should actively seek out to be a part of the community. They SHOULD, like Kitabatake said, try to seek out the respect of the user base. Its not that he shouldn't care what people think of his job... its just that he and other moderators CAN NOT let that impact him doing his job. They still should desire to improve relations with the community as best as possible.

    ~Asomath
     
  20. Kingz

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    My maturity isn't in question, since i never had a desire to deal with other users as a moderator/administrator, you on the other hand have been brought up in this thread as someone who is mature enough to qualify to be a moderator or someone who is mature enough for other moderators to look up to?

    Your maturity however was in question, and i wanted to point out that the words you spoke in that thread show you aren't mature as you were presented to be in this thread afterall, at least not from my view of point, but hey, it's my opinion and if i am the only one feeling so there is no harm done.