-The Ten Lulmandments-

[Aeroblyctos]

So the thing is: We have to change whole administrators and replace it to a better and more active one.

 

[busterkomo]

Quit dodging. There is no one that could possibly do a good job who would actually want to in the first place.

There is no one you think could do a good job. For all you know, there could be someone with 10 posts who would be an amazing moderator. You have to respect that not everyone shares the same idea of qualities moderators should have.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

For all you know, there could be someone with 10 posts who would be an amazing moderator.

Maybe that 10 post guy should post more, make himself known, and garner some respect. Then I might see him for his capacity as a moderator. I have spent a long, long time working with and getting to know what makes for a good moderator, which is a very quantifiable concept. I do respect that not everyone thinks the same way, but trust me when I say that no one has revealed themselves as a proper candidate.

 

[Pyritie]

No..not drastic changes, or even measures.

Really now. Non-drastic anything won't do anything here. We need something big to get out of this mess.

 

[Naze]

Really now. Non-drastic anything won't do anything here. We need something big to get out of this mess.

But people won't accept drastic changes... =/

And if drastic changes includes renewing the staff, Hakeem said you already did that and it didn't worked.

 

[En_Fuego]

Imo, you all should make a list of 10 normal members who would be good moderators (excluding people like Hawkwing who already served) since you think there are people who are ready to be 'promoted' up.

 

[Pyritie]

But people won't accept drastic changes... =/

And if drastic changes includes renewing the staff, Hakeem said you already did that and it didn't worked.

Directors, anyone? That was a drastic change and it certainly helped clean things up a bit.

 

[Naze]

hmmm.. yeah, maybe the staff would accept a drastic change, as a slow change has it's chances of fading away proportional to the time it needs...

If it helped clean things up a bit, I don't know, I only saw Hakeem saying several times it isn't that effective.

Imo, you all should make a list of 10 normal members who would be good moderators (excluding people like Hawkwing who already served) since you think there are people who are ready to be 'promoted' up.

Okay, an idea. But do you think that what we need are new staff members? They'll just join the staff members and get dismotivated to do their job, and the problem will appear again.

Maybe that will help clean things up a bit, but... then the same problem will come.

 

[En_Fuego]

As far as I can see, you guys care less about what the moderators want. You care more about cleaning your section up.

You have to choose one or the other. You can't have both in this situation. It's just not how the internet works.

 

[Pyritie]

We're just users, you know. Much of what we want, the users want too. :3

 

[Vegavak]

Well, Vegavak, the heads already got changed many times, but that didn't solve our problem.

You're mistaken, Naze. The head has never been changed.

 

[brad.dude03]

So the thing is: We have to change whole administrators and replace it to a better and more active one.

I think this is the dumbest thing I've seen in this entire thread.

If you're not going to be serious, then don't bother.

 

[Hakeem]

But people won't accept drastic changes.

You know, I don't think this is all that true.

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I would like to think that by now we all should realize the problem is coming from the admin level.

It's not that the admins are abusing their power, or an unqualified to be admins, but the problem is that some of the jobs an admin is required for are not done. Our admins are fine, but it seems like none of them are going to take charge and do the things we need done. Things like: a full staff assessment, a tangible punishment system, increased communication, general maintenance, all the problems people are mentioning in these threads.

We need either our admins to step up, or we need a new admin who can step up.

But people won't accept drastic changes.

Would any of you accept it from one of the current admins?

 

[bounty hunter2]

What kind of changes are we talking about? Beside the fact they are drastic.

 

[Vegavak]

You know, I don't think this is all that true.

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I would like to think that by now we all should realize the problem is coming from the admin level.

It's not that the admins are abusing their power, or an unqualified to be admins, but the problem is that some of the jobs an admin is required for are not done. Our admins are fine, but it seems like none of them are going to take charge and do the things we need done. Things like: a full staff assessment, a tangible punishment system, increased communication, general maintenance, all the problems people are mentioning in these threads.

We need either our admins to step up, or we need a new admin who can step up.

If you're willing to let these age old admins, who haven't been stepping up for quite some time, the power to not step up again in the future.

A purge is needed. And not a weak one.

 

[Hakeem]

What kind of changes are we talking about? Beside the fact they are drastic.

Basically everything that has been mentioned in all the threads.


I don't see how not taking action makes you unworthy of your powers. When nobody does anything is when problems arise. As long as there are people who are doing what is needed, the ones who aren't can have powers or not without affecting things. Hence, why not let them have their powers? It can only help when they do use them.

 

[PurplePoot]

Basically everything that has been mentioned in all the threads.


I don't see how not taking action makes you unworthy of your powers. When nobody does anything is when problems arise. As long as there are people who are doing what is needed, the ones who aren't can have powers or not without affecting things. Hence, why not let them have their powers? It can only help when they do use them.

Because you don't have more than one admin assigned to a task, there are no backups.

 

[Hakeem]

The inactive ones can be the backups.

 

[PurplePoot]

But the problem is that right now they're the main ones.

 

[Xlightscreen]

this all reminds me of a 3rd world country where everybody wants everything. You got the people that are mad at the current leaders and protest anytime they can. you got the chaos people who just feed off the madness of it all. Then you got the people who don't want to deal with it so just say there is nothing wrong and people are being to serous.

You honestly just can't tell who can be a good moderator and who cannot. Anybody here can give a reason why they would be a good moderator and people will never know tell you see what there actions result in.

I think the best way to figure someone out is by there writing. So I think anybody wanting to be a moderator have to type a 2 page essay on why they think they would be a good moderator and what they will do to improve the hive community.

 

[Airandius]

this all reminds me of a 3rd world country where everybody wants everything. You got the people that are mad at the current leaders and protest anytime they can. you got the chaos people who just feed off the madness of it all. Then you got the people who don't want to deal with it so just say there is nothing wrong and people are being to serous.

You honestly just can't tell who can be a good moderator and who cannot. Anybody here can give a reason why they would be a good moderator and people will never know tell you see what there actions result in.

I think the best way to figure someone out is by there writing. So I think anybody wanting to be a moderator have to type a 2 page essay on why they think they would be a good moderator and what they will do to improve the hive community.

A 2 page essay? zomg.
I didn't even had to write anything for my previous job.
They just said, so you want to help? Me so: yeh.
They: Like oke welcome to the club. xD

Basically I don't think writing a 2 page essay is going to work because you could also just lie and stuff.

Main problem: Not enough moderators.
Solution: Get more moderators.
How? Yeh, still working on that part.

 

[Zombie]

this all reminds me of a 3rd world country where everybody wants everything. You got the people that are mad at the current leaders and protest anytime they can. you got the chaos people who just feed off the madness of it all. Then you got the people who don't want to deal with it so just say there is nothing wrong and people are being to serous.

But in the 3rd world counties, people actually have a valid reason to protest, unlike here :/

You honestly just can't tell who can be a good moderator and who cannot. Anybody here can give a reason why they would be a good moderator and people will never know tell you see what there actions result in.

Yes, you can. That's why the mini-mods should be brought back.

I think the best way to figure someone out is by there writing. So I think anybody wanting to be a moderator have to type a 2 page essay on why they think they would be a good moderator and what they will do to improve the hive community.

In an essay, people can write all the lies and bullshit they want to. The best way on detecting tallent would be bringing back the mini-mods, as pointed out before.

 

[Xlightscreen]

acutely wow your right i completely forgot about min-moderators. as it sounds like a good idea didn't we replace them with directors?

 

[Pyritie]

acutely wow your right i completely forgot about min-moderators. as it sounds like a good idea didn't we replace them with directors?

Lol no, we basically replaced global moderators and admins with directors and got rid of minimods.

Personally I thought minimods were very useful. :/

 

[Vegavak]

They should have been called something besides mini-mods. Mini-mod gives off the wrong impression, seeing how they were just resource help.

 

[Xlightscreen]

We should start a poll then on rather or not we should re-establish mini-moderators

 

[Linaze]

Well, the way I see it, if mini-mods were to be taken back, they should be given more power than they had before, seeing as all they could do is what every random can at the current moment. I'm not saying they should be able to approve maps, but perhaps give them the power to "graveyard" maps that simply don't meet the (extremely low) standards of the Hive at all. If they ever were unsure about a map, they would just post a review and vote for approval or not. This could remove one burden from the moderators shoulders, seeing how they wouldn't have to test and review as much crap as they have to do now. So basically what I am saying is the following: Take back mini-moderators, and give them power only to graveyard maps, and not approve. I know that I wrote this as though only map mini-mods should be taken back, but perhaps that is the only section where the moderators require an extra hand? Please post your comments on this idea.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Well, the way I see it, if mini-mods were to be taken back, they should be given more power than they had before, seeing as all they could do is what every random can at the current moment. I'm not saying they should be able to approve maps, but perhaps give them the power to "graveyard" maps that simply don't meet the (extremely low) standards of the Hive at all. If they ever were unsure about a map, they would just post a review and vote for approval or not. This could remove one burden from the moderators shoulders, seeing how they wouldn't have to test and review as much crap as they have to do now. So basically what I am saying is the following: Take back mini-moderators, and give them power only to graveyard maps, and not approve. I know that I wrote this as though only map mini-mods should be taken back, but perhaps that is the only section where the moderators require an extra hand? Please post your comments on this idea.

If they just do their damn jobs and stop whining about extra payment, then I'm OK with it.