Obama vs Mccain???

[MySpaceBarBroke]

no differnce to me, both will not make world piece

1. You mean neither.
2. Do they have to?

 

[Hakeem]

It's the most anti-Republican year, ever. And the Republicans do what? They put up one of the most unpopular Republican (with republicans). Genius. It's like they planned to discredit John McCain.

Sarah. Palin.

What did you think they were doing? Actually trying?

And if you people didn't realize, if the Democrats put up a turnip, it would have beat McCain.

I so totally would have voted for a turnip is a major party put it up.

Do they have to?

Yes.

---

Arvedui, see you in 2024. I'll be in the anarchist party, nominating turnips.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

It's great Obama won.This is an epic victory against racism.

 

[Steel_Stallion]

Unless someone shoots him a day later

 

[brad.dude03]

This is an epic victory period.

Americans, I'm so fucking proud of you. Alright, so you didn't demand a recount for Al Gore.... and you didn't vote for John Kerry... but you finally did the right thing for your country and for the world by electing Barrack Obama. Congratulations to Obama, and congratulations to America, for making this epic victory happen.

 

[PurplePoot]

About the time that Virginia went Obama and Texas and Kansas were close, it was clear just how badly McCain screwed up.

Anyhow, epic victory speech by Obama.

 

[nastyboy_44]

Obama won, it means new America and new world economy.

 

[Ash]

Obama won, it means new America and new world economy.

I really do hope that was sarcasm.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Ash, even if it's not sarcasm by him just check his signature, it says: "I'm Stupid, You're not". That tells us everything we need to know.

 

[Arvedui]

Sarah. Palin.

What did you think they were doing? Actually trying?

That was my point, actually lol..

I so totally would have voted for a turnip is a major party put it up.

And I would have voted against the turnip, just on the basis that turnips smell bad.

Arvedui, see you in 2024. I'll be in the anarchist party, nominating turnips.

Sweet, my first political opponent to assassinate.. I mean.. discredit.. I mean.. beat.

 

[Ash]

Sweet, my first political opponent to assassinate.. I mean.. discredit.. I mean.. beat.

You could have made that so much better

 

[Arvedui]

Lol I know, I got 3 hours of sleep leave me alone XD

 

[The Last Istari]

You should've seen what it was like here.

We were holding our breaths during the whole thing.

 

[Falconeye]

You should've seen what it was like here.

We were holding our breaths during the whole thing.

Jesus Christ you can hold your breath for a long time. On another note, it was obvious Obama would win. Well now we can expect drastic reform in the economy

 

[Angry_Bovine]

All hail total Democrat party control in the US Government.

 

[SuPa-]

no differnce to me, both will not make world piece

I hope Obama doesn't, or else he's the Antichrist!!!

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Gentlemen,

We have just dodged a very, very huge and deadly bullet.

 

[brad.dude03]

Indeed we have. Thank god the American public prevailed.

 

[SuPa-]

But now all the McCain supporters are screaming "OBAMA'S A SOCIALIST" which is rather annoying

 

[HappyTauren]

I say. Shoot em?

 

[SuPa-]

Well, Obama does actually have some socialist ideals, but that doesn't mean their bad. America has basically labeled any form of government besides "democracy" bad, despite we ourselves not being one... lol

As for McCain, he's just a scary old man! (And no one wants Palin to freaking be the vice president... NO ONE)

 

[The Last Istari]

If McCain had been elected, I seriously would've considered if the Mayans called it right with 2012.

 

[DarkePacific]

I say. Shoot em?

Omg! That's terrible!

 

[punwisp]

Well, Obama does actually have some socialist ideals, but that doesn't mean their bad. America has basically labeled any form of government besides "democracy" bad, despite we ourselves not being one... lol

As for McCain, he's just a scary old man! (And no one wants Palin to freaking be the vice president... NO ONE)

Rofl, we are a democracy.

 

[SuPa-]

Noob, the United States of America is not a democracy. Think before you say such things. We are a democratic republic, which is slightly, and yet extremely different at the same time

 

[XS-Archangel]

I'm glad that Obama won.
But to be honest I don't like American system, with two parties same as british.

 

[punwisp]

Noob, the United States of America is not a democracy. Think before you say such things. We are a democratic republic, which is slightly, and yet extremely different at the same time

We are a Democracy, period lol. We created our own Democracy, because most other kinds fail =O.

And yea we are a Democracy... Just the 3 branches balancing out each other, and having things be the "peoples" choice, makes us a democracy.

Here are some simple definitions
# the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives
# a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them
# majority rule: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group

 

[donut3.5]

We are a Democracy, period lol. We created our own Democracy, because most other kinds fail =O.

And yea we are a Democracy... Just the 3 branches balancing out each other, and having things be the "peoples" choice, makes us a democracy.

Here are some simple definitions
# the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives
# a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them
# majority rule: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group

No, we aren't.
We are a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. A democracy is a government run purely by the people. We are not such. We have representatives to represent the people. This is not a direct democracy. This is what we call a democratic republic.
It, as Supa- said, is not a democracy, it is very close, but yet very different.
If you must know, a pure democracy is essentially communism.
--donut3.5--

 

[punwisp]

Dont even try to compare Democracy to Communism, Democracy isn't communism. If it was we wouldnt be trying to get pple not to use communism, and we are still a democracy period, the governement is in control BY the people, the representatives represent the people, what do you think that means? They don't do what they think, they do what the people of there state think, Yes its a democracy. Otherwise, everything everywhere wouldn't call this country a democracy, how this country runs make it a democracy...

Ok yea if you want to be technical all the people don't control the government and crap, but theres a reason, doing it this way is more efficient, but its still run "BY' "THE" "PEOPLE" Fact

 

[The Last Istari]

I thought Communism was represented by a leader and his lieutenants so to say.

Or am I thinking Socialism?

 

[donut3.5]

Dont even try to compare Democracy to Communism, Democracy isn't communism. If it was we wouldnt be trying to get pple not to use communism, and we are still a democracy period, the governement is in control BY the people, the representatives represent the people, what do you think that means? They don't do what they think, they do what the people of there state think, Yes its a democracy. Otherwise, everything everywhere wouldn't call this country a democracy, how this country runs make it a democracy...

I can control the government? No? But you said the people control it. I am a person. Therefore I should be able to do what I want in the government, by your logic.

representatives represent the people, what do you think that means?

What do I think it means? I think it means that we're a representative (or republic) democracy. In fact, you even said the key word: REPRESENTATIVE.

Democracy isn't communism.

Both are governments where the people are fully in control.
You're just used to the biased slander which states that communism = dictatorship = bad and democracy = good.
Communism isn't a dictatorship by the pure ideals. It is essentially based on "communes" (hence communism), or a community government run by a community of people. Oh gee, sounds familiar.. A government run by the people.. oh yeah, democracy!

Otherwise, everything everywhere wouldn't call this country a democracy, how this country runs make it a democracy...

Democracy is easier to say than Democratic Republic. But it is a democratic republic.
EDIT:
Here's proof:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_democracy

The United States of America is a Democratic Republic.

Deny it all you want, but you're wrong, I'm right.

Istari, Communism is Socialism, essentially, except in Socialism the government has control of all property (what's yours is the government's), and in Communism, the idea is nobody has control over property (what's yours is the next person's)
--donut3.5--

 

[punwisp]

I can control the government? No? But you said the people control it. I am a person. Therefore I should be able to do what I want in the government, by your logic.

What do I think it means? I think it means that we're a representative (or republic) democracy. In fact, you even said the key word: REPRESENTATIVE.

Both are governments where the people are fully in control.
You're just used to the biased slander which states that communism = dictatorship = bad and democracy = good.
Communism isn't a dictatorship by the pure ideals. It is essentially based on "communes" (hence communism), or a community government run by a community of people. Oh gee, sounds familiar.. A government run by the people.. oh yeah, democracy!

Democracy is easier to say than Democratic Republic. But it is a democratic republic.
EDIT:
Here's proof:
Republican democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deny it all you want, but you're wrong, I'm right.

Istari, Communism is Socialism, essentially, except in Socialism the government has control of all property (what's yours is the government's), and in Communism, the idea is nobody has control over property (what's yours is the next person's)
--donut3.5--

On the first part of your post, now your not being serious or realisitc, BY the people, as in a whole, in which what they all commonly want or want to do. Sense there are so many people, they can't just tell them to raise there hands for a yeas or no, thats millions of people, thats why we have congress, and the house of representatives, which represent the people, and what they want.

EDIT: Nice, you use wikipedia as a source, also funny the title of the link was "Republican democracy"

Ok, so lets erase everything in all textbooks throughout history, correct every person who says democracy, and tell them that it isn't. Pfft You realize how many forms of democracy there are? Democratic Republic is one of them. Should see all the other forms of democracy are. Also that source states thay are pretty much the exact same thing, including our form of democracy. So sure tell me that I'm wrong, just makes you ignorant and blind. Doesn't matter what kind of democracy we have, we are still a democracy. Also, next time, use a better source then wikipedia...

 

[The Last Istari]

Thing is, Congress really doesn't listen to us that much.

2000 Presidental election anyone?

 

[donut3.5]

On the first part of your post, now your not being serious or realisitc, BY the people, as in a whole, in which what they all commonly want or want to do. Sense there are so many people, they can't just tell them to raise there hands for a yeas or no, thats millions of people, thats why we have congress, and the house of representatives, which represent the people, and what they want.

Thank you for proving my exact point.
Since I doubt you're smart enough to realize that you DID prove my point, here's why:
-I was purposely being sarcastic and unrealistic to mock you.

they can't just tell them to raise there hands for a yeas or no

Exactly, read on:

which represent the people

How many times do I have to say this?
REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY = PEOPLE REPRESENTED.
You're repeating yourself over and over again, and each time you say it, it proves my exact point.
--donut3.5--

 

[Anti_Bodies]

Both Are Governments Where The People Are Fully In Control.
You're Just Used To The Biased Slander Which States That Communism = Dictatorship = Bad And Democracy = Good.
Communism Isn't A Dictatorship By The Pure Ideals. It Is Essentially Based On "communes" (hence communism), Or A Community Government Run By A Community Of People. Oh Gee, Sounds Familiar.. A Government Run By The People.. Oh Yeah, Democracy!

Istari, Communism Is Socialism, Essentially, Except In Socialism The Government Has Control Of All Property (what's Yours Is The Government's), And In Communism, The Idea Is Nobody Has Control Over Property (what's Yours Is The Next Person's)
--donut3.5--

Exzactly

 

[Vegavak]

I can control the government? No? But you said the people control it. I am a person. Therefore I should be able to do what I want in the government, by your logic.
--donut3.5--

You downsized people to person. Broad and vague to specific. Technically, your logic argument falls through.

Just sayin'.

 

[donut3.5]

You downsized people to person. Technically, your logic argument falls through.

Just sayin'.

It was supposed to fail as logic. Nice try though
--donut3.5--

 

[punwisp]

Aight, I'm done arguing about this so this doesn't get really our of hand, everyone calls it a Democracy, everyone, period. Even the creators of this specific democracy says so, it may not technically be one, but it is, it may not directly be one, but it is. So just accept it as it is, until people start calling it Democratic Republic and not Democracy, then just leave it be. I'm done aruging about this.

 

[donut3.5]

Anyone who knows anything about governmental systems don't call it a democracy, and when they do, they're saying it as an abbreviation for representative democracy.
Just look at the Wikipedia article I posted. It gives concrete proof that you're wrong.
--donut3.5--

 

[punwisp]

I told you I'm done, and I hardly would consider wikipedia a"concrete" proof source lol.

 

[DarkePacific]

Who cares OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!! X D! America for change

 

[donut3.5]

Then use your brain and go to the cited sources.
--donut3.5--

 

[punwisp]

Then why don't you just "stop" I told you I'm done arguing, that means you need to stop, which you just keep talking.

 

[The Last Istari]

Then why don't you just "stop" I told you I'm done arguing, that means you need to stop, which you just keep talking.

Of course, because you know when you're beat so instead of admitting you're wrong, you say "I'm done."

Rather than walking away, it just seems a lot like you're retreating with your tail between your legs.

Just admit it, Donut's got you beat.

 

[brad.dude03]

No you keep replying with your ignorant comments, egging him on. He's trying to inform your sorry ass, but since you're so hostile in your ignorance, I don't think it's possible.

You can't save them all, Donut.

 

[punwisp]

No, the reason I'm saying I'm DONE, is so you PEOPLE don't keep going on and this doesn;t get out of hand, which it was starting too. so just STOP! What part of that don't you understand? What your trying to to is egg me on, I'm not admitting I'm wrong or right, I really don't care, I still call this a democracy, I don't care if it is or not, LEAVE IT AT THAT. Stop trying to continue this and making this into something I didn't want it to become.
Hostile? Wtf you guys doing? Being nice? This isn't about winning or losing, just simply STOP posting about this and we can get back on topic, seriously, its simple, just STOP. Just don't reply to this, its very simple. I've already said I'm done with that subject. Period, so YOU guys stop egging it on.

 

[Arvedui]

Fail thread fails?

Close it, the election is over.

 

[The Last Istari]

Before it gets closed, I'd like to put in one last word.

President Obama FTW.

 

[SuPa-]

This thread is now full of rainbows and the laughter of little children
Since some of you noob puppies can't act mature, try going to Something Else. TSK TSK TSK

Anywhozer-whats-it, Obama has won, McCaine got owned... in conclusion

(if you're against this, YOU'RE RACIST, HA!)

In all seriousness, I'm quite happy with the election's outcome. And my homestate has, for the first time in 44 years, had a democratic outcome =D (which really shows how much McCaine screwed up)

 

[Dreadnought[dA]]

Attention all black people, you are required to turn in your race cards and you don't ever get them back even if Obama gets shot. (If he does get shot they'll probably demand platinum race cards)

Tell me if I'm wrong