Music Contest #3 - Schizophrenia

[Disasterpiece512]

Quick WiP. It pretty much captures the general idea of the song, but I plan to take it waaaaaay further.

 

[lexalex]

@Lich Prince is that a problem?? Yes I thought about some rap songs I listened, that sounded "mad"...and where it is writing that I'm allowed only with orchestral, non-beat music?!

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Orchestral? Have you listen to my wip? Nothing orchestral miles near it.

 

[lexalex]

I did Watchman, and I love it!...
But it wasn't my point...my point was, that is no limit in the style, and he said mine sounded like rap, yes it kinda does, because it has that Kicks and Snares and Hats, mixted into a Beat!...but I do not see the problem in that

Edit: BTW, I've been working on the song lately, and here is what I came with!
Edit 2: WherewolfTherewolf I motivated my style pick!

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

All he said was "your piece sounded like a rap beat"
That pretty much doesn't carry any connotation or emotion at all, it's not like he was calling you out or anything

 

[Disasterpiece512]

WIP NAO number 2.

I really like where this is going. Feedback and criticism pl0x, kk?

 

[Krl70]

I've made some piano base in Noteworthy, but I am having trouble making it MP3, so I can't give you an WIP just yet.

 

[deepstrasz]

Snapping at Lich Prince: Is there a WIP deadline ? (chuckling).

 

[Devine]

http://soundcloud.com/smoke_your_veggies/schiz-private/s-3a7fR
This is my WIP. It's supposed to be a kind of sad/miserable beginning of the track.
After that, it'll go kinda nuts (like my entry in the last contest).
I'm not sure how I'll do this but meh
I still might do something else though.
Genre: Electro (Sorta influenced by trance)
I'm trying to get better at producing, not really composing, so I'm going to put a lot of effort in the production whereas the composition might be... shitty

 

[Krl70]

This is not very schizophrenic in my opinion. It sounds more like some sort of dance tune.

 

[Devine]

This is not very schizophrenic in my opinion. It sounds more like some sort of dance tune.

Read my description.
This thread is nothing for you. You better stay out of it. You are going to trigger a shitstorm so big that this thread will end up a drama.
I can see it coming. Not that I'm going to flame you or anything, it's just that... LEARN TO READ.
Also, if you can't see past genres, you shouldn't comment at all for your opinion is an intolerant and neglectable one.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

If anybody causes ANY drama on my watch, I'm going to cause a world of pain...

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

But a music contest without drama would break tradition!

 

[Disasterpiece512]

I AM A REBEL! TRADITION MEANS NOTHING TO ME! IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZ0RS AT DRAMA!

But seriously. This contest has actually had enough drama about it BEFORE it began because of the theme selection.

 

[Krl70]

Allright, I've tried to record my WIP for quite some time now, and I've finally made it. Here is the base theme that I will be working my way around, a piano, and an Organ so far. It's very short right now, though.

 

[Ganondorf]

I... need.... a.... custom.... Chat.... ICON. I AM ENTERING!

 

[Krl70]

Do you know squat about music creation?

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Do you know squat about music creation?

Nobody asked you how much you know about music creation before you joined. If you read the rules, vast musical knowledge isn't required to join.

Stop trying to cause drama or discourage the competition. If you trigger a shitstorm, I swear I shall have you disqualified somehow.

@JetFangInferno: OMG NEW AVATAR THE WORLD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!

 

[Krl70]

Nobody asked you how much you know about music creation before you joined. If you read the rules, vast musical knowledge isn't required to join.

Stop trying to cause drama or discourage the competition. If you trigger a shitstorm, I swear I shall have you disqualified somehow.

@JetFangInferno: OMG NEW AVATAR THE WORLD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!

Well. I am in no way trying to cause drama. But what I meant was, if you don't know how anything about music, you really aren't in a very good position to win.

And how on earth are you going to get me disqualified?, I mean, wouldn't it be like, very hard.

 

[Sephalo]

I'll do my best to judge it all fair. No worries.
I've got quite much of musical knowledge since it's my study.
On the other hand the result is by far more important then if the theory behind it is all true. But if I have the feeling the person making the music had no clue making it he get's some minus points. Then if that same person succeeded in making the song really good or suit the style very good then I could scrap those minus points.
Just trust me that I'll do fair judging;-)

 

[Disasterpiece512]

@Teuncreemers: I trust you will do just fine. If it's not too much to ask, It would be great if you would have wouldn't have any delays with your judging, when the time comes.

@Krl70
I understand that, but you aren't in a good position to judge if others are appropriate to join the contest. People might take that as hostility and could snap at you, causing *DUM DUM DUM* drama. Also, last contest, Pyritie and Whenwolf, the host, disqualified AoP as a judge because of the drama he started, so I'm guessing it's quite possible to do that with contestants too. If you want to give any criticism, criticize the contestants' WiPs/songs, not the contestant himself.

 

[Krl70]

@Teuncreemers: I trust you will do just fine. If it's not too much to ask, It would be great if you would have wouldn't have any delays with your judging, when the time comes.

@Krl70
I understand that, but you aren't in a good position to judge if others are appropriate to join the contest. People might take that as hostility and could snap at you, causing *DUM DUM DUM* drama. Also, last contest, Pyritie and Whenwolf, the host, disqualified AoP as a judge because of the drama he started, so I'm guessing it's quite possible to do that with contestants too. If you want to give any criticism, criticize the contestants' WiPs/songs, not the contestant himself.

Allright. But can we just end that conversation here?

@Teuncreemers: Sounds good. Happy judging.

 

[Devine]

Also, last contest, Pyritie and Whenwolf, the host, disqualified AoP as a judge because of the drama he started

Actually, that was me.
AoP wasn't disqualified or anything, he emoquited because of trollbait and butthurt.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Actually, that was me.
AoP wasn't disqualified or anything, he emoquited because of trollbait and butthurt.

True, but he just beat Pyritie to it. I clearly remember him posting "AoP, you're no longer judging because of the shitstorm you've caused".

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Devine, you're in my territory now, and if you start again.....

But nevertheless, Teun's a reliable judge and we'll probably get a few more judges, especially towards then end when some people just don't have the time to enter themselves but can still help by judging.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Devine, you're in my territory now, and if you start that again.....

But nevertheless, Teun's a reliable judge and we'll probably get a few more judges, especially towards then end when some people just don't have the time to enter themselves but can still help by judging.

I think you should generalize that first sentence.
*cocky statement* My friend Whenwolf here happens to be a mod and a contestant so try not to anger him or he'll EAT YOU!

Also, I have no doubt that Teun will prove to be a good judge, but regarding others, I think we should pick the best and most reliable, not just anybody.

 

[deepstrasz]

Waldbaer was inspiring. Samuraid has talent too.

 

[JetFangInferno]

Chill out guys. Getting a little ridiculous.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Chill out guys. Getting a little ridiculous.

I second that. Let's try not to start any discussions about judges in this thread, lest we risk triggering another AoP-like shitstorm. I'll handle the judges.

 

[Devine]

http://soundcloud.com/smoke_your_veggies/schizophrenia-wip-2
Watyathink?
The dubstep part needs some work and I need to balance the instruments more.

 

[JetFangInferno]

Sounds pretty awesome, Devine. Here are some remarks:

(1) From 1:08 to 1:36, there is little progression within the piece because it's just bouncing back and forth between the previous melodies.
(2) From 1:36 to 1:50 I really like how the "insanity" starts weaving itself into the melody by slowly rising in volume and distorting the pitch.
(3) At 1:50, though this is just a personal preference, I think you can build up more strongly into a dramatic bass drop, followed by some harder beats plus what you already have. I think you may find inspiration from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDtpK3Xd330.
(4) Your dubstep part is not very strong compared to the previous parts. From my interpretation, the dubstep part is where insanity kicks in so it needs to really sound crazy. Maybe a little more grit to the bass and more "oscillations" would be nice.

 

[Devine]

Sounds pretty awesome, Devine. Here are some remarks:

(1) From 1:08 to 1:36, there is little progression within the piece because it's just bouncing back and forth between the previous melodies.
(2) From 1:36 to 1:50 I really like how the "insanity" starts weaving itself into the melody by slowly rising in volume and distorting the pitch.
(3) At 1:50, though this is just a personal preference, I think you can build up more strongly into a dramatic bass drop, followed by some harder beats plus what you already have. I think you may find inspiration from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDtpK3Xd330.
(4) Your dubstep part is not very strong compared to the previous parts. From my interpretation, the dubstep part is where insanity kicks in so it needs to really sound crazy. Maybe a little more grit to the bass and more "oscillations" would be nice.

Thanks for the feedback. I know the dubsteppart is a bit weak, but I'm working on it. I'm going to work on the drop too.
You're right about 1:08-1:36 too. I'll look into it ;D

 

[lexalex]

Let's see..WIP3...Tell me what you think guys!

 

[Krl70]

A new WIP:

Tell me what you think.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Let's see..WIP3...Tell me what you think guys!

The basic background sounds right, but the beat turns it into psychedelic. :/

A new WIP:

Tell me what you think.

I can't hear it.

 

[Sephalo]

http://soundcloud.com/smoke_your_veggies/schizophrenia-wip-2
Watyathink?
The dubstep part needs some work and I need to balance the instruments more.

Not bad imo. Suits the theme quite well.
Just one false note that irritates me ALOT.
(At 0.28 you add a new sound to it with 3 notes that repeat a few times. Your main 'melody' of this part is in 2 pieces. A melody line then the 2nd part a line that looks like it but is a littlebit lower. At 0.31 your 2nd part of that line starts but those 3 notes that entered at 0.28 still stay there. If you would move those 3 notes down by half a note (Dunno what note they are but if they are let's say an A, make an A flat of it then). At the moment they are just very false.)

But apart from that it looks really nice so far. Keep it up!

 

[Krl70]

Alright, here's the WIP, I could hear the other one just fine, but it had been shorted down for some reason. And also, I hear some background beeps that I don't know what is.

 

[TriggerHappy]

I can't hear yours either.
And good work Devine.

 

[Krl70]

Did you try going really loud with the volume, cause i can hear it just fine.

 

[Devine]

Alright. Here's a new update: http://soundcloud.com/smoke_your_veggies/schizophrenia-wip-3
@Teun, I noticed your comment too late.
You're very right and I tried fixing it before but apperantly, I didn't do it good enough.
I noticed your comment too late to still fix it in this version but I managed to make it sound less off by working the pitch knob. Thanks for pointing out it still sounded bad, though. I hope it doesn't bother you in this version :3. You can just skip it though, I didn't really change much in the intro, just the dubstep part.

 

[JetFangInferno]

@lexalex: IMHO, the guitar sounds really random and although it seems to contrast with the darker background by being a little quirky and more consonant, it doesn't harmonize well with the piece.

@krl70: Your piece sounds quite melancholic and sad but doesn't invoke "schizophrenia" yet. Perhaps later on you will introduce something to change this.

 

[Krl70]

@lexalex: IMHO, the guitar sounds really random and although it seems to contrast with the darker background by being a little quirky and more consonant, it doesn't harmonize well with the piece.

@krl70: Your piece sounds quite melancholic and sad but doesn't invoke "schizophrenia" yet. Perhaps later on you will introduce something to change this.

Yeah. As you might hear I ended this part with a chord. Opening to quite a lot more possibilities.

@Lexalex: Agree with JFI.

 

[lexalex]

yeah...working on it!

 

[Mech_Warrior]

Hey guys, I write music, and this sounds like an interesting concept for a song. May I join? If so, I will begin working on this immediately. The first post said you're still accepting more applicants, right?

Thanks

 

[JetFangInferno]

The contest is always open to applicants as long as they can show a WIP (Work In Progress) and submit a finished piece by the deadline. Good luck!

 

[Devine]

Alright. A new update:
Didn't change much, just productionwise.
http://soundcloud.com/smoke_your_veggies/schizophrenia-wip4/s-lLSaa

 

[wolfman]

WIP

I'm not exactly sure if it is schizo, but i tried

Please give some feedback

And also add me to the list of participants please

 

[Disasterpiece512]

I'm pleased to see so many contestants. I hope you guys will come through and finish your pieces. Also we need more judges, so I want to see more offers to judge!

 

[lexalex]

OK...WIP, WIP, WIP, WIP....WIP4...coming up right now
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BAM!
Criticism plz!

 

[JetFangInferno]

lexalex, I really like the beginning parts where it repeats because that, from my interpretation, can convey echolalia, a symptom that some schizophrenics can suffer from (because of formal thought disorder) where he/she repeats phrases constantly. I'd like to see more development and textural variance because right now it doesn't progress much. Still very interesting nonetheless!