How long will Warcraft 3 last?

[w3.player]

But overall, I still do believe that Warcraft III would still become a popular game, or at least a commonly played classic game even as the years go by, it's quite hard for most players I know of to completely give up on this wonderful game

Entirely true

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I've seen many new games starting to rise in different servers as well, who says DotA is Warcraft III's only good game, I'm sure more and more players would come to it even after DotA 2, who knows, it could just be another stepping stone

 

[w3.player]

Indeed... making so said... copies of maps from Warcraft like Dota 2 and League of Legends may only make the Warcraft players more ambitious to play in the name of their beloved game.

 

[SA Dashie]

So basicaly saying that some people would think that if a game like Dota was made on Wc3 there can be many other maps that are way better or atleast that is what I think that some will therefore giving the way better maps a chance whiles making Wc3 a new future that can be more or less popular but with new players but I don't know what could happen.
Also remember that another reason why Wc3 Isn't as popular as it would be is that alot(most) of the Wc3 players don't even know about WE.

 

[w3.player]

No person can make an accurate prediction... we aren't oracles (unlike Medivh ).

But still we must have faith in the will and hearts of the Warcraft players that they will not just let it down in such "dark" moments.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

That's why the constant 'advertising' of their maps and further development by others would allow other players to know and get more interested about the World Editor in Warcraft III due to their curiosity and maybe some ambition to make another awesome map.

 

[Dynamiczx]

That's why the constant 'advertising' of their maps and further development by others would allow other players to know and get more interested about the World Editor in Warcraft III due to their curiosity and maybe some ambition to make another awesome map.

that's what bought me into the world editor

 

[SA Dashie]

I just wondered how the custom maps where made so I searched for how I can make one myself.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Judging by the leak of Dota 2 (Which looks a little... Plain), I would gladly say that Warcraft III would live longer than expected, hehe, since it has more features for custom maps (Like DotA) compared to the other games.

 

[Mizeak]

Until Warcraft 4 i think. :I

Edit: lol what a bumb.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Yep, Warcraft III would definitely last for a long time, preferably forever.

 

[Razosh]

Because of the fans WarCraft III will live on.

 

[DEAD FiSH]

Actually modding keeps games alive. No source code, community dies.
Blizzard didn`t released any of it`s and North`s source codes, but instead just a level editor with Warcraft III that was further expanded with Frozen Throne.
No source code, no advanced modding. Community will die!

Please keep in mind that Blizzard Entertainment were porting games in the beginning, which means they had many source codes to learn from and even steal, they are bitches that didn`t released any of their source codes

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Blizzard did say that they would keep Warcraft III updated though, and considering the vast amounts of newer tools and such for Warcraft III modding, I do believe that Warcraft III would live on for a long time (Kinda like forever) with advances in it's technology

 

[Razosh]

Yepp WarCraft 3 wount go down untill the human race has

 

[saphiree]

WC3 is down. If you go to b.net or garena no one plays any new maps any more. Its just dota and a few other maps hosted by bots, and brainless zombies joining them.
If you go host anything non-standard no one will join :S

 

[Vunjo]

WC3 is down. If you go to b.net or garena no one plays any new maps any more. Its just dota and a few other maps hosted by bots, and brainless zombies joining them.
If you go host anything non-standard no one will join :S

That is cause of n00bz, not cause of game. Still, even if no new maps are active, old maps make warcraft 3 live.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Not true, actually, considering I just played a lot of other maps a while ago today, as well as noticed that even more new maps are being hosted today, which could mean that Warcraft III is kinda growing more than it's shrinking, contradictory to the belief to some.

 

[Vunjo]

Not true, actually, considering I just played a lot of other maps a while ago today, as well as noticed that even more new maps are being hosted today, which could mean that Warcraft III is kinda growing more than it's shrinking, contradictory to the belief to some.

He probably meant the Europe rooms. Because it is true, whenever I host a random new map which I found on THW, nobody joins. And nobody hosts new maps anymore (This is the story of Europe RPG Rooms, I do not know for other rooms)

 

[Dynamiczx]

He probably meant the Europe rooms. Because it is true, whenever I host a random new map which I found on THW, nobody joins. And nobody hosts new maps anymore (This is the story of Europe RPG Rooms, I do not know for other rooms)

That is why i only enjoy playing with friends

 

[Vunjo]

That is why i only enjoy playing with friends

Friends = The only people you can play a random map with.

 

[aider]

Everything is more fun with friends A co-op game has to be extremly shitty to not be fun with a friend

 

[Gyrosphinx]

Warcraft III will last until I and many others are gone from this world. It will live on in our hearts and on our dusty hard-drives as long as it is still possible. I have that relationship to Warcraft III and Starcraft 1 (I still shed a tear when Stukov dies and when duGalle kills himself, not to mention when Arthas kills his father and when Grom Hellscream dies. (Yes, I'm an emotional guy who gets emotionally attached to video game characters.))

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Well, many players still do play it, and considering the fact that there are newer and better maps daily, even if I do play other games, I wouldn't want to quit this awesome game called Warcraft III.

 

[Dynamiczx]

Friends = The only people you can play a random map with.

and Friends = The only people with who, trolling is legal

ok,back on topic...ummm, i don't think i have anything else to say,as i will say the same thing
but still,i think wc3 will last forever,like sc1,like age of empires 2...

 

[DEAD FiSH]

Blizzard did say that they would keep Warcraft III updated though, and considering the vast amounts of newer tools and such for Warcraft III modding, I do believe that Warcraft III would live on for a long time (Kinda like forever) with advances in it's technology

Blizzard released only a World Edit software with a game straight out of a box. Tools came from the fans, and they are staying there.

 

[Razosh]

Blizzard released only a World Edit software with a game straight out of a box. Tools came from the fans, and they are staying there.

So I'm stayed correct then when I said that the fans make the game anyhow the fact the fans make the tools make the game twice as good

 

[w3.player]

Warcraft III, a game of mystery, of action, of adventure, of life and death... and many other elements which have made our lives more fantastic will forever have a special place in our hearts, the devoted players that love it and play it.

As one wise man said "When the mind is enlightened, the spirit is free and the body matters not" >> in a normal explanation... warcraft has reached a point of "enlightened" because of the comunity that has updated it and made it so fun over the years... therefore even if it's "body" as in the actual game will die... it's "spirit" will forever exist freely and living in our hearts.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Although, Blizzard did a rather good job on it, and I do believe that they would be really successful in the future, despite some problems games could pose. Well, Warcraft III would be one such example of their previous successes, which until today, still lives and is rather active to many I know of.
So yeah, it practically wouldn't die, it'll probably be the one game I'll always return to whenever I'm bored of the others.

 

[eubz]

It will not die... I can see so many downloads in the map section... it tells that many are still playing warcraft 3

 

[The Juggernaut]

To be perfectly honest, I think with the release of Dota 2, a large portion of people who use WCIII will stop using it, because so many have Warcraft III just to play DotA.

I would say 5 years is about how long it will take for Warcraft III to become a game played "back in the day".

 

[Xian]

To be perfectly honest, I think with the release of Dota 2, a large portion of people who use WCIII will stop using it, because so many have Warcraft III just to play DotA.

I would say 5 years is about how long it will take for Warcraft III to become a game played "back in the day".

I agree a lot
but many still play other custom maps and not "dotards"

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Although, IceFrog did mention about updating the Warcraft III version of DotA, which could actually mean that the population would continue to play it, just that they'll most likely be juggling between multiple games.
So yeah, in my opinion Warcraft III kinda wouldn't die, considering the possibility of greater maps being made and so on, and yep, it will live forever.

 

[Vunjo]

Well, the question is when we ask ourselves "Is Warcraft 3 alive?", we should also mention if it means 1 of these facts:

Old maps are being played all the time

OR

New maps are being hosted

People usually stick to old maps, for some reason, they don't want to try new maps. But, there are tons of downloads on epicwar, so if they find a good new map, it might be the key to make warcraft 3 live.

 

[w3.player]

I personally always try new maps... which enter the area of map types i like, and if i do this... maybe others do it as well... therefore i think it might be a proof that warcraft still lives. Still, such matters need further investigation before making a final result.

 

[Vunjo]

I personally always try new maps... which enter the area of map types i like, and if i do this... maybe others do it as well... therefore i think it might be a proof that warcraft still lives. Still, such matters need further investigation before making a final result.

If there are about 5% warcraft 3 players who download and play new maps, then it's quite a fail. Also, it's logical that most of THW members do play new maps, because this is the site for it.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

And I do think that in the coming future, the development of Warcraft III (Mostly by players) would kinda improve somehow, due to the progressions made in tools, etc.
So yeah, it could very much be as alive as it was before and forevermore

 

[Super-Sheep]

And I do think that in the coming future, the development of Warcraft III (Mostly by players) would kinda improve somehow, due to the progressions made in tools, etc.
So yeah, it could very much be as alive as it was before and forevermore

The only thing Warcraft III will see in the future will be the loss of players. Tell me one recent mindblowing tool if you dont mind to. You just think that "we will find all the secrets of Warcraft III and make some uber cool stuff" but we are already at the end point.

 

[DEAD FiSH]

The only thing Warcraft III will see in the future will be the loss of players. Tell me one recent mindblowing tool if you dont mind to. You just think that "we will find all the secrets of Warcraft III and make some uber cool stuff" but we are already at the end point.

Modding keeps games alive! No source code, no better modding. Community dies.
Tools we have are poor, for instance Magos` Model Editor. Milkshape 3D exporter for mdx. And all sorts of mdl tools.
Also there are no utterly good secrets to find. We are at the edge!
And Blizzard Entertainment is jealous and won`t release the damn source code that is more than 5 years old.
Believe me with open source code, you can make anything.

 

[Dynamiczx]

Modding keeps games alive! No source code, no better modding. Community dies.
Tools we have are poor, for instance Magos` Model Editor. Milkshape 3D exporter for mdx. And all sorts of mdl tools.
Also there are no utterly good secrets to find. We are at the edge!
And Blizzard Entertainment is jealous and won`t release the damn source code that is more than 5 years old.
Believe me with open source code, you can make anything.

Blizzard is formed of humans, humans are greedy

 

[Super-Sheep]

Blizzard is formed of humans, humans are greedy

According to maintenances they also have few monkeys working for them.

 

[DEAD FiSH]

Blizzard is formed of humans, humans are greedy

Interesting is that Blizzard at the beginning was porting games for various companies. To port a game to another system you need open source code, with it you have whole game mechanics at disposal.
Funny is that now they won`t release their and North`s source codes for free non-commercial use like id Software and Raven Software did with their games.
Doom; Hexen; Heretic; Quake; etc. All these great games are open for modding and beyond it, for free.
Blizzard is ruining it`s fan base and modders who like want to make more than just a map for Warcraft III.
Hell Blizzard Entertainment is lame!

 

[Dynamiczx]

Interesting is that Blizzard at the beginning was porting games for various companies. To port a game to another system you need open source code, with it you have whole game mechanics at disposal.
Funny is that now they won`t release their and North`s source codes for free non-commercial use like id Software and Raven Software did with their games.
Doom; Hexen; Heretic; Quake; etc. All these great games are open for modding and beyond it, for free.
Blizzard is ruining it`s fan base and modders who like want to make more than just a map for Warcraft III.
Hell Blizzard Entertainment is lame!

Like i said, they are greedy people, i can find no other explanation than this...They might be afraid to do this cuz they will lose their money, which they already do if they continue to do this, as no modding=no fans and games=no money but they don't realize that...and when they will do, it would be too late

 

[w3.player]

Unless a better MMORPG than wow (as gameplay and complexity) comes... they won't lose their fans and gamers... because there are too many wow players already... it's addictive to those with small minds. Yet if some big miracle appears and the wow players begin to diminish than Wc3 still has a chance, even if it will be in the form of Wc4.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Remember, humans might be greedy, but they also can change and think.
I'm sure Blizzard has some stuff in mind not known to us yet, who knows, they see the bigger picture and we players are only looking with a lot of short shortsightedness (Considering the fact that all we would want is quick enjoyment), but Blizzard could actually know that it's way better if it was done this way rather than not.

So yeah, I'd say we wait for a while, then we can make a conclusion.

To me, I'm still supporting Warcraft III and I know Blizzard has the potential to create other epic games which can easily wipe the gaming industry off their socks

PS: Also, I doubt we're in the 'end-point' of modding, considering that Warcraft III still runs on a computer and as long as somebody manages to crack some codes while still keeping it legal, I'd say it's pretty much unlimited.

 

[w3.player]

Warcraft 3 is unlimited by nature... it's basically the land of any choice, as now the editors allow you to create a map which does anything you wish, from simple RTS to RPG, shooting (i mean real shooting maps... in which you see with the eyes of a unit and shoot with a target) football, cartoons, anything...

This is the proof that shows it has one great potential > evolution. Such potential shows that it will last an amazingly long long time (probably forever).

 

[Edhel-dur]

Warcraft 3 is unlimited by nature... it's basically the land of any choice, as now the editors allow you to create a map which does anything you wish, from simple RTS to RPG, shooting (i mean real shooting maps... in which you see with the eyes of a unit and shoot with a target) football, cartoons, anything...

This is the proof that shows it has one great potential > evolution. Such potential shows that it will last an amazingly long long time (probably forever).

I returned to this thread, to check the state of things.

I was suprised to see that after my last visit, this thread was still debated.

So I decided to read through it, and as I read I wanted to stop, quote the stupid line and reply it. However I kept my composure and said to myself "Let's finish reading and then we comment upon it". As I read and read the thread got even more funnier, in a stupid way though. The thread looks like a plot for some kindergarden drama where the little kid is unable to adapt himself and take an action which involves reason.

'Oh noes, Wc3 is not played! But fear not, Wc3 is evolution, it lives... Wc3 is everything and nothing at the same time !... it is love, sex, birth, death... Wc3 is... moar then just a game... it is a physical and spiritual part of me.'

Seriously, sometimes I think people have Wc3 in their heads for brains.

Anyway, related to the... thing... I just quoted... You sir are talking out of your ass. I mean seriously, you have no clue how limited this game is. Just because you've seen some first person systems and stuff like that, you think it's not limited? How about the 8mb limit for multiplayer maps? How about the 256 limit size for a map? No, it's not 480, that size is obtained through a 3rd party software and it's not actually supported by the game, 480 size is basicly a hack, hacks do not count as hacks are a way to go around limitations.
This game is so limited in ways you can't even imagine.

"Wc3 is unlimited by nature" - mind = blown + facepalm while feeding the monkeys at Blizzard... BANANA ?

"it's basically the land of any choice" - I choose you Pikachu !

"as now the editors allow you to create a map which does anything you wish" - Hello it's me, the Warcraft Genie ! I've been locked up in the WE for ten thousand years and now I am freeeeeeeeeee. I will grant you three wishes, three wishes! (no wish for more wishes though :C)

"from simple RTS to RPG, shooting (i mean real shooting maps... in which you see with the eyes of a unit and shoot with a target) football, cartoons, anything..." - Oh My God, I really want to watch Sailor Moon again O.O Or is Sailor Moon an anime and not a cartoon :C

"This is the proof that shows it has one great potential > evolution" - should I troll the fact that what you actually wrote is that potential is greater than evolution, or the fact that Wc3, itself, as a game, as an application, doesn't really ever evolve by itself... and basicly the potential you are talking about is one of the human species who eventually upgrade (or evolve as you like to say) the application known as... Warcraft

"Such potential shows that it will last an amazingly long long time (probably forever)" - I think it already lasted an amazingly long time, not forever, but indeed it lasted an amazingly long time. You are living proof of it. Because you come here, have no clue what you are talking about, you sound as you would know what you are talking about, but you actually don't, most likely a kid, who read the fairy tale of Warcraft and is so oh my gosh impressed with it, that he would worship it beyond his mother, makes you part of the all new, up and coming, amazingly *cough* *cough* generation of gamer kids. Now we all know that the generation of kids from 10 years ago was much smarter then today's. Taking them as a refference point and comparing to today's generation, we can safely assume that Warcraft has lived through about 6-8 different generations. That means it's quite an old game already.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Although, I do know that Blizzard actually cares for the community (Personal experience) and yeah, I think they'd pretty much still care for their games, even if they don't earn money along with some of them.
So yes, Warcraft III would last forever

 

[Vunjo]

@Edhel Dur

-1 for every second sentence your wrote:

-'Oh noes, Wc3 is not played! But fear not, Wc3 is evolution, it lives... Wc3 is everything and nothing at the same time !... it is love, sex, birth, death... Wc3 is... moar then just a game... it is a physical and spiritual part of me.'

Warcraft has a story, a story so good imo, that it attracts humans into playing the game. Those who love reading, and have read the story already, they also like warcraft 3 too.

-Seriously, sometimes I think people have Wc3 in their heads for brains.

What do you expect from THW user if not that?

-This game is so limited in ways you can't even imagine.

Why are you repeating Blizzards' words?

-"as now the editors allow you to create a map which does anything you wish" - Hello it's me, the Warcraft Genie ! I've been locked up in the WE for ten thousand years and now I am freeeeeeeeeee. I will grant you three wishes, three wishes! (no wish for more wishes though :C)

Although Warcraft is limited, it still has the option of imagination. So nothing is funny in the sentence you qouted.

-This is the proof that shows it has one great potential > evolution" - should I troll the fact that what you actually wrote is that potential is greater than evolution,....

Should I troll the fact that ">" does not mean "something is greater than something else" in chat? Maths is not chat. Here's a mathematical explanation for you, since you really like it, or you are acting like one:
Maths =/= Chat

-"from simple RTS to RPG, shooting (i mean real shooting maps... in which you see with the eyes of a unit and shoot with a target) football, cartoons, anything..." - Oh My God, I really want to watch Sailor Moon again O.O Or is Sailor Moon an anime and not a cartoon :C

Actually, it really IS epic how from a simple RTS game you can make a complete new RPG.

-That means it's quite an old game already.

Did you just say that old games are not worth of playing?

Reading all of your facts, I made a conclussion, that you sir, are a fail. You joined THW, have over 300 posts, which is not low at all, and now you are actually talking bullshits about warcraft. What is wrong with you!?

 

[Edhel-dur]

Woah, you completly missed seeing where I was aiming at.

It's okay though, you can re-read my post if you want to know what I was reffering to. And if you don't get it now... maybe tommorow... or in a week... or in a month... or in an year... or a decade D:, or how long it takes you really.