Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[mobare]

Very nice made! 5/5

 

[ReDCrowN]

One of the best Campaigns i've ever played

This forsaken race is awesome huh? you really put a lot of efforts to create a new race xD

This is PERFECT


i hope you will continue the story.


6/5

 

[BunnyAng]

I'll say the same as ReDCrown. This is one epic campaign. First the blood elves, then the Forsaken campaign. Although i would like to ask, in the blood elves campaign, Sylvanas left the Undercity in the hands of Varimathras but in this campaign she left it to Phaelynn which threw me into confusion. Still, the gameplay was tough and the Forsaken race is really nice. 5/5 on that. I really liked the chapter Alone in the Dark but my favourite was the Fall of the Lich King (maybe because of the custom voices you placed), really reminded me of WoW. The terraining of the Lich King throne was epic and so was the battle. Loved the way he threw everyone onto the floor like a mini-cinematic.

Edit: Are you planning to start a campaign related to Deathwing?

 

[illmaster]

I want to ask you about the last chapter where everyone freeze one by one, is someone who are freezing can be killed?

 

[tomoraider]

I'll say the same as ReDCrown. This is one epic campaign. First the blood elves, then the Forsaken campaign. Although i would like to ask, in the blood elves campaign, Sylvanas left the Undercity in the hands of Varimathras but in this campaign she left it to Phaelynn which threw me into confusion. Still, the gameplay was tough and the Forsaken race is really nice. 5/5 on that. I really liked the chapter Alone in the Dark but my favourite was the Fall of the Lich King (maybe because of the custom voices you placed), really reminded me of WoW. The terraining of the Lich King throne was epic and so was the battle. Loved the way he threw everyone onto the floor like a mini-cinematic.

Edit: Are you planning to start a campaign related to Deathwing?

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Actually, once I changed it in this campaign that Sylvanas left Undercity to Phaelynne, I also changed it in the blood elven campaign. So, you see Phaelynne in both campaigns

And I don't think I'll do a Deathwing campaign. I never really liked him.

I want to ask you about the last chapter where everyone freeze one by one, is someone who are freezing can be killed?

Yes, those who get frozen can be killed.

 

[BunnyAng]

I see. But i would say that the Blood Elven campaign was much difficult than the Forsaken campaign. Can't wait for the next campaign. Still kinda sad that Thrall died .

 

[tomoraider]

I see. But i would say that the Blood Elven campaign was much difficult than the Forsaken campaign. Can't wait for the next campaign. Still kinda sad that Thrall died .

He didnt, actually. There is a clue that he survived in the description of the epilogue

 

[BunnyAng]

Oh you mean the part that said Thrall's resignation? lol me.

 

[ReDCrowN]

Hey are you making a new campaign? Cant wait for it

 

[tomoraider]

Hey are you making a new campaign? Cant wait for it

Nope, I'm not working on a new campaign right now.

 

[illmaster]

Yes, those who get frozen can be killed.

Hmm, the green special effect on them are not removed when they died. Have you fixed that?

 

[tomoraider]

Hmm, the green special effect on them are not removed when they died. Have you fixed that?

I think it removes once Phaelynne dies.

 

[BunnyAng]

Yeah i kinda hate that green freeze. Especially since it hits Jaina who I find very useful. Really intense when Phaelynn challenges Sylvanas by saying "Just you and me Sylvanas" and i whoop her ass lol. Pretty much all the bossfights are cool, only that i don't see much of a challenge from the twin Val'kyrs and Sindragosa (isn't it Sapphiron?).

 

[tomoraider]

Yeah i kinda hate that green freeze. Especially since it hits Jaina who I find very useful. Really intense when Phaelynn challenges Sylvanas by saying "Just you and me Sylvanas" and i whoop her ass lol. Pretty much all the bossfights are cool, only that i don't see much of a challenge from the twin Val'kyrs and Sindragosa (isn't it Sapphiron?).

Sindragosa isn't really a boss, just a more powerful frost wyrm in my campaign. And I replaced Sapphiron with Sindragosa because I like her better.

 

[huy60vn]

tomoraider, I find some errors when I skip the cinematic in chapter one, just like this. Can you fix that? (v1.04)

 

[tomoraider]

tomoraider, I find some errors when I skip the cinematic in chapter one, just like this. Can you fix that? (v1.04)

Thanks for reporting that, I'll fix it in the next update.

 

[HarharPapabol]

Greetings !

NEED CUSTOM SPELLS FOR THE HERO. NUFF' SAID

 

[HarharPapabol]

Need custom spells for all the heroes !

 

[illmaster]

I think it removes once Phaelynne dies.

Yes, it is. But I think it's better to remove it when the frozen one died

 

[rex03]

I have seen a very big bug chapter eleven fall of the Lich King when i have to chose two sides when i chose Vampirithas i have to fight Phaelyne when i kill her all my units and the base are frozen and cannon move i can only play with Sylvanas for the whole game and ALL scorge minions on the WHOLE map are frozzen and dont attack you only the bosses attack you and even i have to fight the Lich King with Sylvanas and they are still frozen and one more thing when i kill Phaelyne it stay dead on the ground with full HP when i attack her 1 time it dies But the whole camping is perfect and interesting

and i know my english is bad because im in Bulgaria

 

[tomoraider]

I have seen a very big bug chapter eleven fall of the Lich King when i have to chose two sides when i chose Vampirithas i have to fight Phaelyne when i kill her all my units and the base are frozen and cannon move i can only play with Sylvanas for the whole game and ALL scorge minions on the WHOLE map are frozzen and dont attack you only the bosses attack you and even i have to fight the Lich King with Sylvanas and they are still frozen and one more thing when i kill Phaelyne it stay dead on the ground with full HP when i attack her 1 time it dies But the whole camping is perfect and interesting

and i know my english is bad because im in Bulgaria

That bug was fixed, you're probably playing an older version of the campaign.

 

[LOTP]

In mission Hour of the Forsaken, Chapte Nine I think, there is a searousies bug with cutscenes.

If u go to the dragons before reaching the elves then when Silvanas reach BE camp the cutscenes go apeshit: the scene with reaching the camp and Alextrasza run on the same time (personely I didnt knew something like that is even possible).

 

[Xonok]

I planned to do it all on one day, but other things cut into my time, so I'll post what I've noted so far. I'll try to continue later, but even if I don't you'll at least have the first 3. I haven't downloaded a new version meanwhile, so some of this might no longer be relevant.

Chapter 1

We will turn the tides of battle anyway, but the treasures may be of use to USE.

Also, the saying is "the tides of war".

The mission text tells to attack scarlet right away, but it isn't a very good idea, as you lack any proper melee units at that point.

The mission hints that scarlet doesn't know you've destroyed their base. Yet, they still attack with full power right away.

Too frequent attacks(and from all sides!)(don’t get a chance to retaliate)

Mortars starting from second wave make it very hard to gain a foothold

Banshees get sniped by towers when attacking bases(too high priority).

Also, compared to other units the banshees are relatively useless. Their curse doesn't help as much as an extra dark ranger. The reason being that skeletons take away a lot more damage.

Sorceresses have a lightning ability that deals 100 damage to anything. This effectively makes them into siege weapons, as a few of them can instantly take down a tower.

Since this is the first mission I suggest seriously toning down the scarlet attacks or putting a handicap on them. It gives people some time to get in the flow.

I also suggest switching banshees for some melee units, as those are more useful in the beginning.

One of my ziggurats is red. Don't forget to change team color when giving such units.

The base with gryphon riders is very easy to miss.

Meat wagons turn out to be the most effective units(I had twice as much of them as all other units together). Probably because of the heavily fortified bases.

Varimathras recommends attacking from 2 sides and sylvanas agrees, but I never did it like that, because there simply is no point. These bases are easier to beat with united forces. Can't afford to split up.

Doombringer is very hard at all levels. It's probably because he is tank and debuff at the same time and also because of the life drain(high recovery tank). I guess it's intended, but it can be frustrating at time(he alone can do as much harm as a full squad of mortars)

The mission gets much easier as you progress, which is not good.

The starting gold mine runs out of gold and I can't find another one.

Chapter 2

The fountain of health is hovering.

Whether darkclaw can be saved depends on chance(how the mirror images are placed - whether althein attacks him first).

Gryphon riders are too close to the undead that are guarding the meat wagons, they attacked me when I attacked the undead.

Gargoyles are unnecessary and not worth the risk because:
1. Most of the enemies have piercing damage(even gryphons), which is very effective against gargs.
2. Sylvanas can kill 3 gryphons alone, even without full mana.

Scarlet crusade has worgen farms?

Killing the scourge and murlocs is unrewarding. I literally got nothing from them, but lost half of my army. I suggest mana runes/glyphs, because everyone except darkclaw keeps running out of mana.

More reinforcements would be good, especially melee. In the end I only had my heroes and 2 meat wagons left.

Chapter 3

You have never provided an altar in any of the missions, yet, you do provide a shop, which is usually less useful at start, as it's not a good idea to put money in items before gaining a foothold.

The towers in the city should be transferred when I have haunted the gold mine, not when I kill all buildings. The first time I did this mission the towers simply got wiped by an attacking wave.
Also, those towers don't make much of a difference, as they are about the same in stats as ziggurats, which are needed in masses anyway.

 

[tomoraider]

Oh wow thanks for all those suggestions.
Btw, the reason why the first gold mine in chapter one has so little gold is because you can destroy the first Scarlet Crusade base with existing forces and establish a base there.
And I think Sylvanas says the tide of battle, not tides, so it makes sense I think.
I think you're right about the difficulty, I'll probably make it easier in the next update.

 

[Xonok]

Oh wow thanks for all those suggestions.
Btw, the reason why the first gold mine in chapter one has so little gold is because you can destroy the first Scarlet Crusade base with existing forces and establish a base there.
And I think Sylvanas says the tide of battle, not tides, so it makes sense I think.
I think you're right about the difficulty, I'll probably make it easier in the next update.

But don't forget to let there be an option. Some people like how hard it is. Me among them(on the second playthrough).
About the tides of battle thing, there's also one more thing about it. "might be of use to use"
I think it should be "might be of use to us".
The gold mine thing wouldn't hurt if some of the scarlet bases also had mines, but so far only the last has any, so it's too late. (Or did they stripmine them while I was busy trying to get on my feet?)

 

[Wa666r]

Wow amazing campaign. I absolutely loved it. It was fun, engaging, well created, and overall spectacular, but I do have some bugs to report. Now, I am unsure if you had already fixed some of them, so I apologize in advance.

CHAPTER 1:
- The Scarlet Base is way too small.
- When I played I took care of everything before destroying the scarlet base, so when it came to the destruction of that base the gold mine had only around 2000 gold, I noticed that the peasants were taking 10 gold instead of 1.
- I think you have too many unnecessary buildings for the Scarlet Crusaders, even though they don't build anything they take too long to destroy, very annoying.
- I finished the Optional Quest before it was discovered.
- The enemy structures and unit are too close together.
- The AI overall wasn't too great.
- Could change up the Hero Abilities For Sylvanas, say instead of life drain you could place: Forsaken Valor, which would give life steal ability each attack for 25 seconds.
-Level 1: 20% Life steal. Level 2: 35% Life steal. Level 3: 50%
- Same with Vari. Instead of Rain of Fire you could place: Fire Nova, like frost nova but...with fire.
- The scoreboard, as I am others have mentioned.

CHAPTER 2:
- Could Fix the cliffs.
- The Worgen town is too compact.
- Dark Claws abilities are boring I'd suggest making at least 1 custom ability, even if he is only in one mission. Here's a suggestion: Enrage - Increases Darkclaw's attack speed and movement speed for 15 seconds. Level one 11% each, Level two 22% each, Level three 33% each. Something like that.
- I don't understand why you have an enemy Worgen Manor, they have no ai and it really takes up a lot of space.
- I am not sure that a "Harpy's Nest is the best doodad, maybe place piles of corpses or something.
- The enemy base could be taken without the Gargoyles
- Not a big deal, but a few too many natural creatures.

CHAPTER 3:
- A bit of a plot hole, Phae never tells Vari her name, but somehow he knows it.
- Since the orange base doesn't do anything, you could reduce the number of buildings, its just a annoying destroying all the useless buildings.
- Adding more creeps would add an extra depth.
- Sleep is placed in a different spot ?
- The ogres really don't need all those structures
- The Light Blue base doesn't rebuild or replace, makes it real boring to destroy
- Phae's Summon Minion ability should explain what the next level is going to be.

This is all I have for now, thank you for taking the time to read my suggestions. Great campaign, hope to see more Aftermath related campaigns from you .

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks for the bugs report, I'll fix those in the next update. And suggestions too, I'll see if I'll change some stuff.

 

[Xonok]

I disagree with most of this. Note that I won't respond to points that I have nothing to say about(where I simply agree or don't care)
I'll take it point by point:
CHAPTER 1:
- The Scarlet Base is way too small. - The whole map is spammed full of scarlet bases. I wouldn't say that they are too small.
- When I played I took care of everything before destroying the scarlet base, so when it came to the destruction of that base the gold mine had only around 2000 gold, I noticed that the peasants were taking 10 gold instead of 1. - Agreed. It would be nice if there were some mines to be captured from the scarlet.
- I think you have too many unnecessary buildings for the Scarlet Crusaders, even though they don't build anything they take too long to destroy, very annoying. - I kind of like this aspect. It makes the game harder and requires you to actually use siege weapons to siege bases. Although it would be nice if there were also lower difficulty settings where it isn't so hard.
- The enemy structures and unit are too close together. - Where?
- The AI overall wasn't too great. - Why?
- Could change up the Hero Abilities For Sylvanas, say instead of life drain you could place: Forsaken Valor, which would give life steal ability each attack for 25 seconds.
-Level 1: 20% Life steal. Level 2: 35% Life steal. Level 3: 50% - Why would this be any better than what she currently has? Custom abilities can be nice, but in this case it would reduce tactical depth(making you able to attack while draining life, when usually you had to choose between high damage and high life regeneration)
- Same with Vari. Instead of Rain of Fire you could place: Fire Nova, like frost nova but...with fire. - I agree that rain of fire was relatively pointless. Fire nova would work well I guess.
- The scoreboard, as I am others have mentioned. - What's wrong with it?

CHAPTER 2:
- Could Fix the cliffs. - Where? What's wrong with them?
- The Worgen town is too compact. - Why? It fits in with the rest of it. Also note that the warcraft3 style is to make buildings small/units big.
- Dark Claws abilities are boring I'd suggest making at least 1 custom ability, even if he is only in one mission. Here's a suggestion: Enrage - Increases Darkclaw's attack speed and movement speed for 15 seconds. Level one 11% each, Level two 22% each, Level three 33% each. Something like that. - It would look better and I suggest putting it instead of one of the passives(critical). Because passives are boring when there's too many of them and they only affect the unit that has them.
- I don't understand why you have an enemy Worgen Manor, they have no ai and it really takes up a lot of space. - I simply disagree. It's a part of the lore that the worgen are not unified, so it also makes sense to fight them.
- I am not sure that a "Harpy's Nest is the best doodad, maybe place piles of corpses or something. - Piles of corpses would be good additionally, but don't remove the nests unless there is something better to fill the role(a place to live for gargs)
- Not a big deal, but a few too many natural creatures. - Where?

CHAPTER 3:
- A bit of a plot hole, Phae never tells Vari her name, but somehow he knows it. - Vari controls her mind, so it's a possibility that by that he can also access her memories.
- Since the orange base doesn't do anything, you could reduce the number of buildings, its just a annoying destroying all the useless buildings. - I disagree with removing buildings, but I guess it would be nice if the unrelated buildings were just neutral and out of the way.
- Adding more creeps would add an extra depth. - I agree. Everything is simply hostile, no neutrals except the trolls.
- Sleep is placed in a different spot ?
- The Light Blue base doesn't rebuild or replace, makes it real boring to destroy - I think it would be a good idea if it rebuilt, but only in normal difficulty and higher

 

[Wa666r]

Chapter 1:
Let me readjust my statement on the Scarlet base being too small, I meant that there is a small area that is filled with a lot of structures; causing both the players and the enemies units to be stuck. (well, at least on my experience on the map)

The Ai isn't great because the bases would take 10 gold as opposed to 1 (I think its pretty important in campaigns). Along with that, most of the bases don't replace units, now, I am unsure if that was meant but I think it add a layer of fun if the enemy would produces units to keep their base guarded. (Ex: the player draws all the enemies out the base and kills them, then the base is left defenseless except towers.

Well, my ability for Sylv was but a suggestion, I like to think that a hero should have at least two costume abilities to draw away from the original gaming experience, which most of use played on The Frozen Throne campaign.

The scoreboard has too many unnecessary teams. I am pretty sure the board was meant the enemy to mimic one enemy, the Scarlet Crusaders, unless I am mistaken. Seeing all the Scarlet Crusaders on the scoreboard kinda takes away from the one enemy, and I cant even tell which base was which so I think it's unnecessary.

Chapter 2:
All across that map where cliffs are, the cliffs have empty black spots, which make the map just seem unprofessional and unattractive. I would suggest maybe placing rocks over those spots to hide those spots.

As for the Worgen buildings being too compact, it might just be my personal preference, but I prefer when their is plenty of small for units to roam, and the buildings just take up so much space.

I believe you have misunderstood by my "Worgen Manor" statement, I understand that the worgen are not unified and I do like the fact that they reside upon the mountain, but the Worgen Manor itself holds no purpose, its just worgen workers gathering gold, that is it. It is not a big deal, just a small improvement to rid of it, in my opinion.

The natural creatures -rabbits, elks, etc.- are all around the map and it sometimes interferes slightly with my army's movement, but, again, not a big deal just a small improvement to rid of a few.

Chapter 3:

Well he said her name before he gained control of her mind.

 

[Querzis]

While I really loved the rest of the campaign, the story and everything else, chapter 6 forced me to register just to tell you how frustrating that was. In every campaign where theres a timer like that for reinforcement, you usually just have to wait for the reinforcement before you can destroy the enemy base. And what I always loved to do is just destroy the enemy base before the reinforcement arrive just for the lols. So I did.

Think its impossible to do in chapter 6? Its not. Took me LOTS of try, especially since once you attack the death knight base, he just seems to throw everything at you but I did it. Thanks to Thrall earthquake, the tons of minions you can have with you thanks to Sylvanas and Varian attack buff, you can focus down buildings very fast and they dont build them back. And once you destroy the Temple of the damned in the Death knight base, they just stop producing troops and attacking you. Dunno why, I guess you programmed them to need necromancers and banshee to attack or maybe its just a bug that happened only in my game. Anyway, this allowed me to just focus on the other guy base. Now of course, I had to go heal at the fountain after every attack and I got my heroes killed a few times so I had to save often but I really did it. My heroes were attacking the Death Knight gold mine, the only enemy building left standing as far as I know, when the countdown ran out.

And heres the really frustrating part, when Thrall 'sacrifice' himself to go down with Orgrimmar? All the attacking undeads are already dead. Thrall litterally doesnt even have the time to attack the last abomination before it goes down and then he just stand there with like 20 still alive troops around him. And then they tell me Orgrimmar was destroyed. Its not, I frigging saved it!

If you wanted that mission to be unwinnable that way then make the buildings indestructible or something.

 

[tomoraider]

While I really loved the rest of the campaign, the story and everything else, chapter 6 forced me to register just to tell you how frustrating that was. In every campaign where theres a timer like that for reinforcement, you usually just have to wait for the reinforcement before you can destroy the enemy base. And what I always loved to do is just destroy the enemy base before the reinforcement arrive just for the lols. So I did.

Think its impossible to do in chapter 6? Its not. Took me LOTS of try, especially since once you attack the death knight base, he just seems to throw everything at you but I did it. Thanks to Thrall earthquake, the tons of minions you can have with you thanks to Sylvanas and Varian attack buff, you can focus down buildings very fast and they dont build them back. And once you destroy the Temple of the damned in the Death knight base, they just stop producing troops and attacking you. Dunno why, I guess you programmed them to need necromancers and banshee to attack or maybe its just a bug that happened only in my game. Anyway, this allowed me to just focus on the other guy base. Now of course, I had to go heal at the fountain after every attack and I got my heroes killed a few times so I had to save often but I really did it. My heroes were attacking the Death Knight gold mine, the only enemy building left standing as far as I know, when the countdown ran out.

And heres the really frustrating part, when Thrall 'sacrifice' himself to go down with Orgrimmar? All the attacking undeads are already dead. Thrall litterally doesnt even have the time to attack the last abomination before it goes down and then he just stand there with like 20 still alive troops around him. And then they tell me Orgrimmar was destroyed. Its not, I frigging saved it!

If you wanted that mission to be unwinnable that way then make the buildings indestructible or something.

You're not supposed to destroy the enemy bases in chapter six. You're supposed to defend Orgrimmar until the timer runs out.

 

[Querzis]

You're not supposed to destroy the enemy bases in chapter six. You're supposed to defend Orgrimmar until the timer runs out.

...Yeah I know that. My whole point is that if you didnt want me to destroy their base, you should have made it impossible to do so in the first place like every other campaign does simply by making buildings invulnurable. As it is, I once again succesfully defended the city, all the orcs, all the buildings in there and Thrall are still very much alive at the end, no undead are still attacking it and yet they still say Orgrimmar was utterly destroyed. It wasnt. You cant say the story happened that way when you can make it different in the actual gameplay. Once again, its an easy fix, just make the buildings invincible.

 

[tomoraider]

...Yeah I know that. My whole point is that if you didnt want me to destroy their base, you should have made it impossible to do so in the first place like every other campaign does simply by making buildings invulnurable. As it is, I once again succesfully defended the city, all the orcs, all the buildings in there and Thrall are still very much alive at the end, no undead are still attacking it and yet they still say Orgrimmar was utterly destroyed. It wasnt. You cant say the story happened that way when you can make it different in the actual gameplay. Once again, its an easy fix, just make the buildings invincible.

Hmm, well I guess you're right. I could change that. Although, I don't think the enemy's buildings were invulnerable in Blizzard's campaign.

 

[cleavinghammer]

They're not, just stupidly annoying to destroy, and set to rebuild almost instantly.

 

[Wa666r]

Out of curiosity what did you use for the Ai? Ai Editor, GUI, or Jass?

 

[tomoraider]

Out of curiosity what did you use for the Ai? Ai Editor, GUI, or Jass?

AI editor

 

[ogrim]

tomoraider: congratulations, i think this should be the storyline of the fall of the lick king in world of warcraft, and not with new characters like tirion.

i only think that you should explain what planned varimathras at the icecrown citadel and that lord darkclaw should have been playable in more chapters (but just because i like wolves and worgen jejeje)

Like your previous campaign, this one is very amazing

Can you put here some aids to decorate scenarios? mines are awful and yours are excellent

please, more campaigns

 

[Valdorien]

Ahh.. Sylvanas.

I'd just like to say that I absolutely 1000% love sylvanas. She's such a strong female character, that doesnt take shit from anyone, appart from garrosh (but im sure she'll kill him later...) I have been playing Warcraft since WC2, and never have I seen a character that I like more than Sylvanas. Personally, I thought this champaign wouldnt be that great, just another knock off or a parody that just ruins sylvanas. But, after downloading.. then completeing a few days later.. I must say, you did Sylvanas justice. Just.. Wow. Im so glad you decided to make this map as you have captured me once again by Sylvanas. I really hope you continue to make more maps like this because you're so good at it and you do every single character so well, I actually prefer it to how Blizzard did it. I loved every second of playing this map. Not once did I think I didnt like this map while playing it. It's truely spectacular. Well that's about all I have to say, just keep up the good work, and hopefully in the future you'll do another campaign for Sylvanas.

 

[tomoraider]

I'd just like to say that I absolutely 1000% love sylvanas. She's such a strong female character, that doesnt take shit from anyone, appart from garrosh (but im sure she'll kill him later...) I have been playing Warcraft since WC2, and never have I seen a character that I like more than Sylvanas. Personally, I thought this champaign wouldnt be that great, just another knock off or a parody that just ruins sylvanas. But, after downloading.. then completeing a few days later.. I must say, you did Sylvanas justice. Just.. Wow. Im so glad you decided to make this map as you have captured me once again by Sylvanas. I really hope you continue to make more maps like this because you're so good at it and you do every single character so well, I actually prefer it to how Blizzard did it. I loved every second of playing this map. Not once did I think I didnt like this map while playing it. It's truely spectacular. Well that's about all I have to say, just keep up the good work, and hopefully in the future you'll do another campaign for Sylvanas.

Thank you, I'm really glad you like it. I actually feel pretty much the same about Sylvanas, because she is strong and what you said, doesn't take shit from anyone, but also because she has respect for other people.

If you're interested, my other campaign Rise of the Blood Elves also contains Sylvanas, and in the new version of it she might even have a little bit bigger role.

 

[Footman16]

Thank you, I'm really glad you like it. I actually feel pretty much the same about Sylvanas, because she is strong and what you said, doesn't take shit from anyone, but also because she has respect for other people.

If you're interested, my other campaign Rise of the Blood Elves also contains Sylvanas, and in the new version of it she might even have a little bit bigger role.

I'm quite the opposite, I just hate Sylvannas. Her plans make no sense; she is evil to the point of no return. She is practically the Lich Queen, I mean why does Galen, when brought back, decide to bring down his own kingdom how could he not hate himself for what he has become unless he is being controlled. Also when does she show respect for other people? If I'm perfectly honest the only thing I like about Garrosh is how he deals with Sylvannas and will hopefully kill her.

She says that she and her people are the true people of Lordaeron then maybe if you did agree with that then why did she invade southshore etc. Are the living not entitled to their own lands?

That said I'm not forcing you to agree with my view only making debate.

 

[tomoraider]

I'm quite the opposite, I just hate Sylvannas. Her plans make no sense; she is evil to the point of no return. She is practically the Lich Queen, I mean why does Galen, when brought back, decide to bring down his own kingdom how could he not hate himself for what he has become unless he is being controlled. Also when does she show respect for other people? If I'm perfectly honest the only thing I like about Garrosh is how he deals with Sylvannas and will hopefully kill her.

She says that she and her people are the true people of Lordaeron then maybe if you did agree with that then why did she invade southshore etc. Are the living not entitled to their own lands?

That said I'm not forcing you to agree with my view only making debate.

Well yeah, but before Cataclysm, she was different. She basically did become super evil in Cataclysm.

 

[TheForsakenSoul]

That was terrific... This is insane work you've done here, sir. I loved every piece of this campaign: models, maps, spell animation, especially - music, and was so disappointed when I got to the finish point I wish you could make a continue of this beautiful work. Really loved this campaign, I appreciate your work and beg you to make more of this epicness...
P.S. You just got your new biggest fan ^_^

 

[ngxkhoi]

Amazing, awesome, perfect, epic, incredible or any other word, known or unknown to talk about your campaign tomoraider

If the maximum voting point is 5, I'll give you 10/5 lol.

I especially love the model of lich king - arthas version, just because he's always been my most favorite character even after being turned into Death Knight. Hopefully I would be able to play him as a character in some of your other campaigns, 'd love to see what frostmourne is capable of :X :X.

PS: and Blizzard should employ you to be their map-maker lol, cuz I only expected to see such story in WC4, but you really made it sooooooo good yup yup

 

[tomoraider]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it :3

 

[DarkBro]

Cool campaign,but i have some small complains and good things to say
1.It would be okay if you would show us how Thrall and that Worgen died,because when worgen died i was searching for him on the whole map to see if he is still alive
2.Why did you even make Thrall die?And replace him with Garrosh....
3.Good work with the Frozen Throne mission,i like it how you can battle with Marrowgar
4.It would be cool if you SOMEHOW involved Illidian and Kael'thas in this story,but that is just my opinion
5.Congratulations for the campaign,i loved it sooooo much

 

[tomoraider]

Cool campaign,but i have some small complains and good things to say
1.It would be okay if you would show us how Thrall and that Worgen died,because when worgen died i was searching for him on the whole map to see if he is still alive
2.Why did you even make Thrall die?And replace him with Garrosh....
3.Good work with the Frozen Throne mission,i like it how you can battle with Marrowgar
4.It would be cool if you SOMEHOW involved Illidian and Kael'thas in this story,but that is just my opinion
5.Congratulations for the campaign,i loved it sooooo much

1.,2. Thrall is not dead. There is a hint to that in the epilogue's description.
4. Kael'thas was dead, and even if I wanted to include Illidan he couldn't fit in the storyline.

And thanks, I'm glad you liked it :3

 

[Sky_Demon]

Where did you find the Lich King sound ?? i really wanted that sound.

and Mal'Ganis should be in Scarlet Crusader aswell, because he's still alive. maybe this could be an advantage for your next Campaign.

 

[tomoraider]

Where did you find the Lich King sound ?? i really wanted that sound.

and Mal'Ganis should be in Scarlet Crusader aswell, because he's still alive. maybe this could be an advantage for your next Campaign.

I found the Lich King sounds on youtube, they're from WoW.

And I didn't really care about Mal'ganis, and the Scarlet Crusade is most likely never going to appear again in my campaigns.

 

[Faellus]

Man, first of all i need to congratulate you, Really nice work!
i love campaigns that follow the lore. But, man... in the chapter 1 only one gold mine, attacked by three groups every 5 minutes at the all sides, kinda hard to make a decision to do something, if send a group to seach for some gold mine or if make then help to defend the base. If the map had 2 more gold mines i think it wold be better. Its only a suggestion

Yeah, i tried chapter 1 three times ._.

Sorry for my english.
And please, give continuity! (Y)

 

[tomoraider]

Man, first of all i need to congratulate you, Really nice work!
i love campaigns that follow the lore. But, man... in the chapter 1 only one gold mine, attacked by three groups every 5 minutes at the all sides, kinda hard to make a decision to do something, if send a group to seach for some gold mine or if make then help to defend the base. If the map had 2 more gold mines i think it wold be better. Its only a suggestion

Yeah, i tried chapter 1 three times ._.

Sorry for my english.
And please, give continuity! (Y)

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
And yeah, the first map is a bit hard, I might make it a bit easier.