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Despite moderator ratings are gone, there is no reason why featured files lists (DC) would be taken away.
Especially the map sections.
Especially the map sections.
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I believe 5 to be too much, but a resource every month, sure. That would also help to democratize things a little bit, as there were both resources unworthy of DC and others worthy of DC, but lacking that status by the decision of some mod.So every few months those in charge would debate on which new 5-10 resources to be put on DC lists.
The opposite isn't healthy either, of course. I believe director's cut should still be a place for only the really best resources.I just don't want one moderator/reviewer to be able to choose a resource for Director's Cut without the approval of most if not all respective mods/revs for that section (we're not just implying maps here).
ack in 2012~ Kael had a monthly poll where we voted for maps in development, and those maps would be featured in the monthly news batch (which was also done by Kael and does not exist anymore, actually bring the news batch back as well!)
It's never been like that. Director's Cut is chosen when a moderator / reviewer feels a resource deserves this rating, and brings it up to Staff / other reviewers who are in that domain. They all talk amongst themselves, and if all goes well, the resource will get the rating.I just don't want one moderator/reviewer to be able to choose a resource for Director's Cut
If that also means every resource that deserves a DC would be nominated the next months until one day they get the DC, then yes. Although, why not have x number of DCs/moth if there are resources worthy of that?I believe 5 to be too much, but a resource every month, sure.
Well, that's good then.It's never been like that.
I see DC as a section with purpose going towards more to giving HQ material to people who are crafting projects than hall of fame aka community award for resource authors.Any resource that is worthy of that should be classified as such. There's no need to only have a few number (per month or not).
Only a limited number of people to have access to them? VIPs? No thanks. How do you even decide whom to give them to!?I see DC as a section with purpose going towards more to giving HQ material to people who are crafting projects than hall of fame aka community award for resource authors.
Excuse me but what are you talking about? You either hardly misunderstood my post or didn't read it at all.Only a limited number of people to have access to them? VIPs? No thanks. How do you even decide whom to give them to!?
DC is supposed to be the section with the best (quality) resources the Hive has got.
I see. I misunderstood.Everyone would have access to DC material, that is the point of whole thing, to give HQ resources listings and I really don't know how to simplify it further.
Not really related but DCs are more accurate than searching by rating.With Blizz update, for the sake of wc3 modding, bringing back DC to maps is something that should be done without any doubts.
Yes and therefore I don't see why it got removed at all.Not really related but DCs are more accurate than searching by rating.
Well, I don't think DCs are only about how much people like a product. I never did. I've always thought DCs are products with best quality which means the first thing that comes to mind when people (or at least me) read a DC is HQ. Reviews and feedbacks are something that describe the quality it got or I would say, a more detailed information regarding the product why it deserves such rating.Reviews/feedback is for make statements about the real quality.
Ratings is to see how much the folks, the entire user base, likes your product.
By moderators/reviewers consensus. The same way they were determined on old Hive.Ok, that's where they would go; but how would they be (re-)implemented? How would they be made/determined/decided/judged?
Directors cut or featured files is not something Hive made up. It is a common practice in most mod hosting websites to have such listings.I can't really see new useful input. We want see the best of the best of the best of the best.
For most stuff such prestige is not needed, and would do better in some spotlight from time to time.
There surely is a lot of bias and whoknowswhatnot when determining what gets the DC. But DC by its very name implies bias included, right? User ratings we have atm are, after all, just a joke. They wouldn't be if you'd get 50> ratings per resource. And, well, resources today can hardly get more than 10 ratings where most of them are rated 5/5.Director's Cut never showed the best of the best. Nor did moderator ratings. There was no set criteria to judge by. It was all skewed and a "cool" factor was also a part of it. You could make the most boring thing of the utmost quality and it would maybe only get 2-3 stars from a moderator.
Moderators, sometimes, weren't even qualified to dole out ratings. I had plenty of experiences where I had to tell the moderators when to approve my stuff. Then again, I'm a professional software engineer and many of them aren't : /.
I don't think bringing back DC will allow users to filter resources by quality. I don't think moderator ratings will do that either. The only way they will is if moderators are required to judge the quality and remove the bias.
Did you guys know that one of the resources that is approved doesn't even work? I've mentioned it five or six times to the author that one of the libraries that they are using is bugged and they haven't cared. Why is it approved then? Not only that, but I bet you it'd earn a DC, even when there are cases where it's going to fail. Not only that, but it doesn't even use the best algorithms. It definitely isn't the best of quality. Regardless, that "cool" factor is going to weigh in, resulting in a lot of bias that would otherwise earn 4.3 stars for its actual quality and a temporary 0 stars until it was fixed.
The community had zero influence on what recieved DC. As I mentioned earlier in the thread,But that is a problem of community.
Director's Cut is chosen when a moderator / reviewer feels a resource deserves this rating, and brings it up to Staff / other reviewers who are in that domain. They all talk amongst themselves, and if all goes well, the resource will get the rating.
I know community had zero influence in process. But they would have the ultimate influence in aftermath of terrible DC chosen file, if such would be made. Which reminded me of that HT's joke with random marine model DC.The community had zero influence on what recieved DC. As I mentioned earlier in the thread,