Beyond the Throne: Tides of Darkness

[TaShadan]

iam back to play more games

 

[Kam]

I've been considering replacing the the Elven Destroyer with a Submarine. I've been searching for ways to differentiate the naval forces of Orcs, and Humans more. Lost are already drastically different than conventional forces.
Any thoughts?

There is a large update pending as well. I've been spending a good amount of my editing time on balancing Lost units.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Perhaps (although maybe this was obvious) differentiate them in the same pattern as the races are differentiated?

i.e. Assuming your Orcs and Humans are done like Blizzard (Orcs = emphasis on melee & brute force & large groups, // Humans = emphasis on ranged/melee mix, tactics, utility), you can make the ships like that too. (Orcs have lots of smaller, cheaper, rickety-er ships with crude weaponry, along with some huge Juggernauts; Humans have smaller groups of more expensive, but more tactical ships, as well as advanced weaponry on their 'battleships')

 

[Kam]

Hm what about a support ship that deals reduced damage but repairs surrounding naval units? Perhaps some sort of drone ability or passive?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Heck, sure. Definitely sounds Human (i.e. some kind of "Dwarven Engineer" ship; no attack but can Repair other ships while on the sea), though; not Orcish. (not sure what your other races are, aside from "Lost")

 

[TaShadan]

so no more anti air ship for human?

btw what happend to the tourney? iam the only one that played a game?

 

[Kam]

It would still attack air.

No Retera, Trilby and I, did as well. I think there was too much of a timezone conflict.

 

[Kam]

I'm working on the enxt update, it addresses many issues. It also alters the human naval units significantly.

 

[Kam]

Update is coming along. There are some drastic changes for the Human navy.

Human Navy

 

[TaShadan]

is the submarine able to submerge?

 

[Kam]

Yes. It is also restricted by shallow water.

 

[Kyrbi0]

What's that awexome tri-partite Alliance thing next to the Orcish Transport?

 

[Kam]

It's called a Hopper. It has a smaller cargo capacity, but is able to instantly teleport to friendly naval units in a 2500 unit area.

 

[Ken-E]

I like the new Human Navy so far, it has more character than the previous ones. The sub marine is always welcome to the tech tree.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Hopper, eh? Neat. Not a bad concept (transport that can teleport). Aesthetically I really like the '3-arm-shield' thing. I've been commissioning something similar; who made it?

 

[Kam]

infernus and Retera.

There will be an update later today.

EDIT: Update will be tomorrow. The OP has been updated with tomorrows changes.

 

[Kam]

Latest Update is out. I reworked the OP as well.

 

[Elven Spellmake]

I have just seen your post on my visitor page (I haven't logged in for a while!) and I tried to download the latest version, but the download button has no link associated with it!

Did this happen when you updated the post?

 

[Kam]

Here is a preview of one of the unit alterations in the next update:

Thank you to I3lackDeath, and infrenus for their help on this model. The base models used are by Cookie Vashard.

 

[TaShadan]

new unit for orc? or did you remove a unit?

 

[Kam]

It's an upgrade to the current Goblin Blaster siege unit.

 

[Malefic]

Map names are to long .
I suggest you removing numbers from their ends .

 

[Kam]

I have had no issues hosting them. What error are you getting?

 

[Malefic]

My Warcraft 3 cant read them o.0 .
I had to reaneme them .

 

[Kam]

Version 3954 is released.

 

[xvarts]

the only thing that makes me sad is behemoth model is removed.
Is it still in the import editor? I might need it.

 

[Kam]

No, it was problematic due to animation flaws. I was told from a friend that tried to fix them that it would require remaking the model.

 

[Jas.per]

Awesome Map Dude I Like It

 

[paladinjst]

No, it was problematic due to animation flaws. I was told from a friend that tried to fix them that it would require remaking the model.

u said u would add the human mage model made by SinisterX ... and now it seemed that u cancelled this plan , right ? i don't know why ?

 

[Kam]

Which model do you mean? (link)

 

[paladinjst]

Which model do you mean? (link)

this one http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=94129
human mage made by SinisterX

 

[Kam]

It's a bit low poly, and the current Mage model fits the racial theme better in my opinion.

There will be an update in the next few days as well.

 

[paladinjst]

It's a bit low poly, and the current Mage model fits the racial theme better in my opinion.

There will be an update in the next few days as well.

i had played ur Version 3954 , it's still had no mage in human race . maybe it will appear in next version ? and when it shall comes ?

 

[TaShadan]

i had played ur Version 3954 , it's still had no mage in human race . maybe it will appear in next version ? and when it shall comes ?

there is a mage.
its this floating metal ghost mage.
you can build it with advanced buildings (elven worker)

 

[paladinjst]

there is a mage.
its this floating metal ghost mage.
you can build it with advanced buildings (elven worker)

oh man i throught it wasn't a real mage , it's a golem or ghost or something else .

 

[Kam]

A new update is out. Have fun over break.

 

[Kam]

I'm working on new terrain for a 1v1 naval focused map. Expect an update soon.

 

[Even]

That's an awesome map.. Definitely an interesting concept for WC3 (naval combat)

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'm really impressed by anyone who can sit and make a melee map; to take into account all the balance issues (how much lumber, how many creeps of what type, the distances of everything). Even more to make it non-symmetrical (or at least curvy). Nice stuff.

 

[Kam]

I'm really impressed by anyone who can sit and make a melee map; to take into account all the balance issues (how much lumber, how many creeps of what type, the distances of everything). Even more to make it non-symmetrical (or at least curvy). Nice stuff.

Thank you!

I've released an update that includes the new terrain. Please give me feedback on how it plays. Insane AI was added.

 

[Kam]

I've been working on Typhoon.

 

[Twilight]

Maps are epic, nise races gr8 terrain i like all your alterd melee maps
________________________________________________________________
Rating:
-5/5
Stuff to fix:
-Nothing to fix

 

[TaShadan]

There is always something to fix...

 

[Twilight]

Well as far as I can see, maps seems gr8, no problems when playing, so nothing to fix

 

[TaShadan]

I know but playing one match vs ai witout a problem doesnt mean there is none.

 

[Twilight]

Oh, well he should improve the AI

 

[Kam]

I know but playing one match vs ai witout a problem doesnt mean there is none.

I am working on a new AI that uses more triggers. Have you played the insane AI?

 

[Twilight]

Listen I dont have your maps, my cpu is old and broke, I dont have the newest pach of Warcraft. But I think that these maps are epic. So Nvm What I said (Oh, well he should improve the AI), the map is gr8

 

[Ofel]

Wow the changelog is very long... perhaps this is the longest changelog i've ever seen! xD

 

[Kam]

I am currently working on a new triggered AI. The Normal Human AI will use it in the next update.