About the Contests

[Just_Spectating]

i really doubt it.

 

[Herman]

Absolutes

The only to make something like that balanced is by either

A) Extremely large amounts of mana (so much so that the hero would need an item to enhance the mana JUST to cast it)

or
B) Make said spell have an extremely large cooldown

Either way, the spells couldn't be very creative or original (either one unit or AOE) the only thing you could really change is the special effects(visuals, not to be confused with abile effects), but that doesn't show skill or much else (just looks good)
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I made a list a while ago for a map, the player chooses his race, and throughout the game upgrades his race to another tier

Anyway, there was about 10 tiers, and about 25+ classes, each class was supposed to have their own spells, I could find the list and post it here, so if you need an idea based off a class, you could use it

 

[XieLong]

A nice possibility to balance absolutes would be non-following missiles, means that there's a high chance to fail in any way (the missile may not hit, the spell has a general chance to fail, long casting time could be interupted etc.)

 

[Just_Spectating]

the only way for it to be balanceable is if it didnt hit heros and had a long cooldown.

 

[PurplePoot]

And then it would turn into an eyecandy contest, which is NOT what this is.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so no absolutes, thats period.

 

[Herman]

Yeah

Absolutes are gay, only cool in Super Smash Bros.

Was that an N64 game???

 

[PurplePoot]

There are none in Super Smash Bros anyways

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Next theme... Winter, anyone?

 

[Just_Spectating]

homerun bat. dont forget that.

 

[Razorbrain]

you can survive a homerun bat.....

 

[Just_Spectating]

at most times, no..

 

[Herman]

Heh

What about the hammer???

 

[Just_Spectating]

that is like, 3 hit ko.

 

[Herman]

Ooo

How about Ganondorf's thing???

I think he's got like some kind of super charge

Or maybe it was that guy with the sword??? Rhonin, or Rhokin?

 

[Razorbrain]

Roy, but you can still survive it in melee

 

[Herman]

Lol

Ok, so I guess no game uses pure absolutes

Which I guess proves my point even more, absolutes are gay
(Kinda beating a dead horse here)

O well, I still gotta upload that list, I'll do it some time today or tomorrow

 

[donut3.5]

Pokemon did. Anyways, we're getting OT, and I think a winter theme is kind of generic, but I suppose it would work.
--donut3.5--

 

[Herman]

Suppose So

Yeah I guess a winter theme wouldn't be bad

I still think that emoticon is contradictory

 

[Just_Spectating]

how about the opposite of augment on enemy units?

 

[HINDYhat]

No augment... that was one of the lamest themes ever

Winter seems nice.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i said opposite of augment.

 

[HINDYhat]

That basically means anything that decreases an enemy stat... Kind of too vague, lame, and identical to the original augment theme, if you ask me.

 

[Herman]

Augment wasn't too bad

You can use pretty much any theme as long as you use your imagination (sounds corny, but is true)

Yeah, winter would suit the situation
Could we use custom sfx and be penalized???

There is a competition going on that so far produced a hell of alot of cool sfx

Fuck, I just remembered I can't join this one, aww, whatever GL to everbody else

 

[Just_Spectating]

i thought of another theme

i dont know what to call it but

Anything that stops a unit in its path or something

 

[GhostWolf]

In other words, stun ?

 

[wd40bomber7]

Lol Just_Spectating, I like your idea toggle-able much better...
Or a snowy theme? (I hesitate to say Christmas because of clashing religions.)

Whens the next contest, I'm going to die waiting for it!

 

[GhostWolf]

Tommarow (or today looking at the hour ... lol).

And can someone explain me that toggle-able thing ?

 

[Just_Spectating]

something that you turn on and off that has a negative effect on you such as drain mana.

 

[GhostWolf]

Ah like immolation, ok thanks.

[Edit] come on Purple, connect and give us theme

 

[Rheias]

> A system contest is currently in alpha stages ... Please post if you think we should in this thread

I tried to make one in TheHelper.net (another website that has a big forum regarding World Editor and Warcraft3), it failed, people simply didn't submit anything. I would love to see a contest like that being done, however, the real question is if it would actually work.

As for a theme, here are 2 I thought about:
- Items (Recipes / upgrades etc.)
- Economic (something that that has to do with resources)

 

[HINDYhat]

There have been tons of other spell contests here, and they all work fine.

Those are some interesting themes, but I'd like to stick with the Winter theme just because it's that time of year again.

 

[Rheias]

> There have been tons of other spell contests here, and they all work fine.

System are quite different than spells. They require more time, they are harder to make, and coming up with a decent idea takes much more time.

 

[HINDYhat]

Oh, whoops, I mis-read

Yes, I'd be interested in a systems contest too... I don't think there have been any here, but again, only me, you, and a couple of others are interested in starting one (I remember talking about this once...).

 

[GhostWolf]

Wasn't the contest supposed to start already ?

 

[Herman]

O i love systems

Yeah, I would be interested in a systems contest as well

Although, that may be a bit over my skill level, depending on what it is

I recently made an extremely flexible risk map making system, and I have so far implemented it into two maps

I'm gonna go update the resource now ><

But anyway, I would be really excited to do a systems contest
Just a question, does it need to be in JASS???

My skills are really limited using that (just don't have the experience)

 

[PurplePoot]

Patience people, I was busy!

Contest will be up before the end of today, I promise. And theme will be winter, due to the season and popular demand.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so what, snowy spells and stuff?

 

[PurplePoot]

Anything snowy/frost/cold/etc

 

[CarrionMan19]

Shouldn't you add Winter to the Theme Idea List and then cross it out?

EDIT: On a side note, I'm going to need to recreate the Sandstorm spell from DOTA for my idea for the winter theme. How am I supposed to do that?

 

[~Void~]

Light Speed (things done in a split second, leaving a wake of destruction)

 

[PurplePoot]

Kay void, I put it on, but I named it Instantaneous (more self-explanatory)

 

[Herman]

Dang

I managed to have my computer smashed, long story

Anyways, I can't join contest 11, although I'd really like to, good luck to whoever goes for it

 

[Just_Spectating]

Poot should inform when contests are going on in this thread.

 

[PurplePoot]

Hmm...

Tomorrow night, I think, for the next one's debut?

Any preferred themes, or shall I just pick a random one?

 

[Dracula]

i wanna join contest #11, the theme is still winter? could i still vote? if i can ill vote for dragon.

 

[Just_Spectating]

heres another idea, channeling. longer u channel, more effect or w.e

 

[wd40bomber7]

Hmm...

Tomorrow night, I think, for the next one's debut?

Any preferred themes, or shall I just pick a random one?

'Tomorrow night' was a couple million years ago. I know we're all busy, but hopefully tomorrow school will be closed. This will give me some free time. I'd like to use that time on my entry to the contest!

 

[Herman]

2 Spell Type suggestions

Maybe something like successive effects, and something with a slow-mo effect

Like the things they do in pudge wars with the high-speed rune item

and for successive effects, maybe the guy gets stabbed, bleeds for a few secs, and then explodes (or something similar to multiple effects over time)

 

[Just_Spectating]

stacking ability

 

[PurplePoot]

Yeah, 'Tomorrow Night' came and went, and I can't remember now exactly what happened then.

Anyways, 'Now' I'm free all week.

However, as the 'Tomorrow Night' post said, does anyone have any preferred ideas for the next theme?

So wait, as I understand, so far people have asked for;

Dragon (what the heck is that supposed to mean? Seems very vague)

Channeling

Time

Stacking

"Successive Effects"