(2)Marshlight v1.0

[Figglewig]

It's me again, this time with a Zangarmarsh themed map. It utilizes multiple assets from different tile-sets. There are loads of mushrooms abound, and a mixture of Sunken Ruin, Outland and Ogre Creeps. Also do not be fooled by the Orange Camp in the bottom right corner of the map, it's an Ancient Hydra>Hydra x2>Hydra Hatchling x4, plus a Draenei Seer.

As always, I look forward to any and all feedback. Best of luck out there.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Hello there
Yet again it's me checking your map
I was comparing your modifications on items compared to their melee counterpart
Level 1 : Permanent
Somehow I don't understand why remove the ring of armor + 3, it's really good, compared to cloak imo
I know cloak saves heroes on high lvl plays but still, I always sell it
Level 2 : I personally never see the staff of tp being dropped, guess its fine
Lvl 3 : Boots of Speed is great there, it cost 250gold, which is quite a investment on the early game, so I would definitly suggest you bring it back
It's not because an item can be bought that it shouldn't drop
Lvl 4 : Dark Summonning always nice imo, but yet again not the kind of item I see dropping, tho it can save some lives, fine ish
lvl 6 : Okay staff of imbalance is definitly broken, I hate it, but its needed? Don't have enough data on it, can't say for sure
What I can say is, it dropping from a lvl 16 is definitly not fine, doesn't matter if it multiplies on death and has a healer nearby, not fine on hydra sorry

The rest is fine ish, Removing tome of health even tho sometimes you just need hp vs burst instead of stats
The lvl 5 Charged tho, nope, summons are just way too good, each can turn the tide of the battle in your favor, especially in a 1v1
Fel stalker is amazing, -100 mana, you cast it 3-4 times, if you're fighting an undead you just win straight up
Invul pot on a DH is amazing as well, and I could go on

Definitly want to re-add some if not all of the drops on lvl5

Otherwise I feel map is fine, there's no cliff I like it, green camps are fine
Aethetic fine, even tho I dislike those barrens doodads, its personnal opinion, they prolly fit well

Edit : You forgot critters, could as well add some trees near taven for NE players

 

[Figglewig]

Hi OnyxTheDark,

The item drops I have mostly tailored to follow what I found on Liquipedia for the competitive 1v1 map pools. My original thought process for not including the Manual of Health was that the Tome of Strength would already give a hero health, so why bother adding in two health gain options. However, in doing so I made the Tome of Agility more likely to appear, so I have re-added in the Manual of Health to all of my current maps. Otherwise, the only other difference would be the actual inclusion of Charged 5 drops compared to the competitive map pool. Out of the drops, I felt the the most balanced options were between the two healing options, Potion of Restoration and Scroll of Restoration. I agreed with your sentiment that the Fel Stalker and Invul Pot would be too powerful.

That all said, I did take what you said and added in a couple trees near the Tavern and the critters that I forgot to put in.

As for the barrens doodads, I felt the desire to add in a bit of "corruption" by using the fissure doodad and to coincide with the color pallet change in the area to be more red and dry.

All in all, I really do appreciate you taking the time to review my maps and providing me with feedback.

On a similar note, it has been great to have a creative outlet that I could share with the community, and I will endeavor to continue to improve and create new maps.

Like always, I look forward to any and all feedback.

 

[t0rche]

Map with mushroom trees is always a thumbs up from me!

 

[deepstrasz]

For less annoyance in clicking, I suggest non-targetable rock chunks instead if they're not meant to be broken/blocking an openable path.

Generally, good melee layout. Nice colours.

Approved.

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[Figglewig]

Alrighty, I did a pass through the tree lines and cleaned up the outskirts. Did not get to go through the rock chunks.

edit: 03/19/2025
Having received a lot of feedback. Marshlight has moved significantly towards better playability. I have done a bunch of rebalancing and restructuring over the past month, with the help of some great playtesters. Hopefully others will enjoy this map.

deepstrasz, the rock chunks are gone.

Thank you to: OnyxTheDark, deepstrasz, Raynor88, Sunshine, mrmikemtl, and others for all of their time, effort and kind words.

 

[raypack]

Great map, but could someone give me the link to make the map playable on patch 1.29.2?
I lost the link...

 

[Figglewig]

Thank you, but I am unaware of how to make it playable on an older patch version.