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[Joe-black-5]

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I disagree strongly with children require spanking, a relationship should be built on respect not fear, restrictions should be applied when respect is lost, but authoritarian force should never be applied in any situation, including governmental.

Midnighters seems to me to be a white supremacist type.

I personally think anyone 10% above the middle line for Authoritarian/Libertarian must have been raised improperly for answering questions like forced sterilization, and bans on abortion strongly.

hey!! FU! D: only I am 10% above that line!
and I did no such thing! as far as I am concerned, I am one of the few sane people around here!

 

[Rui]

Or conceived improperly. Just thought I'd leave that provocation there.
Also, you pasted the HTML code, not the BBcode one. I'll add your results anyway.

EDIT: Edited my post to include your results.

 

[Skycraft]

here you go
and i supplied an additional random image to go with it
for no reason

 

[RiotZ]

Or conceived improperly. Just thought I'd leave that provocation there.
Also, you pasted the HTML code, not the BBcode one. I'll add your results anyway.

EDIT: Edited my post to include your results.

You forgot Reaper51.

And I think Hitler was further to the left... As Fascism economically isn't that different from Socialism, whereas socially they are much different.'

Also, who the hell is Friedman?

Edit: Joe you aren't that far over, so there musn't be too much wrong with you, now Mag, totally different story. And why so many Lefties.

 

[Ash]

You forgot Reaper51.

And I think Hitler was further to the left... As Fascism economically isn't that different from Socialism, whereas socially they are much different.'

Also, who the hell is Friedman?

Edit: Joe you aren't that far over, so there musn't be too much wrong with you, now Mag, totally different story. And why so many Lefties.

WAT. Fascism isn't economically different to socialism? I'ma just stop you right there; Fascism is based on corporatist ideology, just with the inclusion of an authoritarian figure that has the final say on things.

As for Milton Friedman, he was an economist that put forward the idea of a free market with very little government intervention as being the best possible strategy, a modern-libertarian, if you will, that isn't quite as radical as someone like Rothbard (who would be at the extreme bottom right, just a little further in than Hakeem). But of course you would know this if you cared to do a very basic google search.

 

[RiotZ]

WAT. Fascism isn't economically different to socialism? I'ma just stop you right there; Fascism is based on corporatist ideology, just with the inclusion of an authoritarian figure that has the final say on things.

As for Milton Friedman, he was an economist that put forward the idea of a free market with very little government intervention as being the best possible strategy, a modern-libertarian, if you will, that isn't quite as radical as someone like Rothbard (who would be at the extreme bottom right, just a little further in than Hakeem). But of course you would know this if you cared to do a very basic google search.

Do you have, any idea, how many, [Adjective Rui Doesn't Like - Insert Here] people, have the last name Friedman?

 

[Ash]

Many, but I'm pretty sure it isn't just coincidence that Google's first result happens to be a right-wing economist and we're talking about politics.

 

[PurplePoot]

Rui, I used my impressive paint skills to put a dot roughly where I was (to the first decimal, that is) since I can't be bothered to redo the test.

 

[leventopoulo]

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/21x33.gif
liberty!!! lolollolol

 

[eternalruler]

http://http://politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.75&soc=-5.38 spanking isnt really anything it should just be incorporated into every day parenting it never really affected me though except made me behave correctly for a bit after it but i was so stubborn a child that id have contests when i got bored over who could handle the most pain so ehh could just be that the reason why i think its perfectly normal

 

[Rui]

So here goes a question: why is it that nearly 90% of the people end up on the left? It's interesting how most people here are left-wing libertarians and most European leaders nowadays are right-wing authoritarians.

 

[RiotZ]

Because the simple-minded believe the best way to live is for them to be entitled to everything they have, instead of them working to earn it, and starving if they don't.

Personally I think that Capitalism works, the system always bounces back, even after someone starts cheating and ruins it for everyone. Socialism is not at all a bad economic strategy, but it hasn't worked for anyone yet.

 

[PurplePoot]

So here goes a question: why is it that nearly 90% of the people end up on the left? It's interesting how most people here are left-wing libertarians and most European leaders nowadays are right-wing authoritarians.

This site is not a very good representation of the general population.

 

[Rui]

I accept the critique as there's some truth to it that I hadn't thought about. Or, at least, not while attempting to perceive the logic of the questions. However, there are people who don't go farther because they can't.

Also, I know zero of economy, but from here it appears that the problem with Capitalism is not so much that it only doesn't work sporadically, but more like the amount of people that suffer when someone does screw it up, an example being the present crisis. Then it's a matter of justice, but there has got to be one.
A commentator was saying that, in America, they had Madoff arrested, convicted and incarcerated in 3 months, and 75% of the money was returned to their rightful owners, while, in Portugal, it's been 3 years since a fraudulent business running inside almost an entirety of a bank was exposed and no one has been taken to justice yet.
Nevertheless, the fact remains that someone or several people earned money at the expense of others (referring, for example, to the remaining 25%).

 

[PurplePoot]

Also, I know zero of economy, but from here it appears that the problem with Capitalism is not so much that it only doesn't work sporadically, but more like the amount of people that suffer when someone does screw it up, an example being the present crisis. Then it's a matter of justice, but there has got to be one.
A commentator was saying that, in America, they had Madoff arrested, convicted and incarcerated in 3 months, and 75% of the money was returned to their rightful owners, while, in Portugal, it's been 3 years since a fraudulent business running inside almost an entirety of a bank was exposed and no one has been taken to justice yet.
Nevertheless, the fact remains that someone or several people earned money at the expense of others (referring, for example, to the remaining 25%).

You know your country's screwed if someone is using the USA as a relative example of justice after corporate shenanigans. The US is practically the corporate bullshit capital of the universe.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Also, I know zero of economy, but from here it appears that the problem with Capitalism is not so much that it only doesn't work sporadically, but more like the amount of people that suffer when someone does screw it up, an example being the present crisis.

The current crisis was caused by flawed government and central bank policy.
Ben Powell explains it in a very understandable format in this video.

 

[Ash]

Democracy is not capitalism, and the existing system that we have now is not capitalism. Capitalism requires a free market: We have no such thing. Our markets are all planned; what we are experiencing right now is the bastard-child of socialism, capitalism and authoritarianism.

EDIT: What the western world is experiencing now, to be more adapt.

 

[RiotZ]

Well, personally, my opinion is, I would never give anyone my money to invest, how can I feel safe that someone I don't know, has any idea, what the fuck the best interest of my earned money is? That's why Americans are ** @@s, because they got ripped off in a ponzi scheme, I mean how stupid do you have to be?

As for the country's current crisis, it's not entirely the fault of the system, but moreso the fault of changing systems mid stream, Obama came in with his socialist additude toward everything that is the economy. So he decided to pump a few hundred billion tax payer dollars (I don't know about you, but someone taking my money and using it for a project that fails and gives no return, is the same as a ponzi scheme) into the recovery, which has now just evaporated, and piled onto the 15 trillion dollar debt.

I totally agree with Ash.

 

[Ash]

Oh, I wasn't actually talking about America. I'm an Englishman, so I don't really know too much about the specifics over the pond but instead was generalising.

 

[RiotZ]

Oh, I wasn't actually talking about America. I'm an Englishman, so I don't really know too much about the specifics over the pond but instead was generalising.

Same shit different place. And you're obviously English, being that you speak such good English.

 

[Blackcat]

Quite a lefty according to this test, I guess when filling this in you are more a socialist then normally

 

[Rui]

Wow, you sure were quick. I suppose you had done it before?

Graph linky.

Also, this seems recent. I would have never imagined Barack Obama would be that much authoritarian?

P.S. -- Blackcat, yeah, these things seem to have been done by people in the United Kingdom. For people who have the republican party, everything else is left-wing ;P like someone already mentioned in this thread.

 

[PurplePoot]

It would be interesting to see how they actually placed that point, because Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are not at all similar on many issues.

 

[Instant Ramen]

It would be interesting to see how they actually placed that point, because Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are not at all similar on many issues.

I disagree.

Graph linky.

Where am I on this?

 

[Rui]

Instant Ramen, I really find your results suspicious ._. but fine, I'll put it in anyway.

I'd like to know a bit more about your anarchism ideology!

 

[PurplePoot]

I disagree.

Well for example Obama just publicly declared in favour of gay marriage, which is pretty radical for US politics and neither right wing nor authoritarian. That alone is a pretty huge indicator that that placement is a little iffy.

 

[Ash]

Well for example Obama just publicly declared in favour of gay marriage, which is pretty radical for US politics and neither right wing nor authoritarian. That alone is a pretty huge indicator that that placement is a little iffy.

Bear in mind that it's right wing *economically*. Social issues don't factor into the scale Rui linked.

 

[Rui]

I'm not sure about the Compass, but on the spectrum that'd probably weight on cultural liberal or conservative alone, or maybe on both that and the y axis, dunno.

 

[Ash]

The compass definitely only weighs economy issues across x.

 

[PurplePoot]

Bear in mind that it's right wing *economically*. Social issues don't factor into the scale Rui linked.

Social issues definitely factored in somewhere or other, maybe it was the authoritarian scale. Either way, I'd expect to see Obama a few points to the left and/or bottom at the very least.

 

[Ash]

Sorry, should have mentioned social issues are on the y axis.

 

[RiotZ]

Wow, you sure were quick. I suppose you had done it before?

Graph linky.

Also, this seems recent. I would have never imagined Barack Obama would be that much authoritarian?

P.S. -- Blackcat, yeah, these things seem to have been done by people in the United Kingdom. For people who have the republican party, everything else is left-wing ;P like someone already mentioned in this thread.

Totally inaccurate.

Barrack Obama is much closer to Stalin's position economically, and socially. Barrack Obama is the most left-wing president in the last 20 years.

 

[Instant Ramen]

I'd like to know a bit more about your anarchism ideology!

Voilà! I present to you Rothbard's For A New Liberty, as read by Jeff Riggenbach. The book is a deontological approach to right-anarchism, but if that's not sitting well with you, you can try a more consequential approach with some Hayek, Bastiat or Mises.

TL;DR: System (or lack thereof) is based on property rights stemming from self-ownership axiom.

 

[Ender]

I am a right social moderate
Right: 5.52, Libertarian: 0.08

Barrack Obama is much closer to Stalin's position economically, and socially. Barrack Obama is the most left-wing president in the last 20 years.

that is very true

 

[Ash]

Voilà! I present to you Rothbard's For A New Liberty... TL;DR: System (or lack thereof) is based on property rights stemming from self-ownership axiom.

Also recommended highly.

 

[Rui]

Ender, I have edited your post. The code you pasted was HTML, not BBcode: it does not parse in posts.

Instant Ramen, I was kinda hoping to hear it from your own words, but fine, I may check it someday.

 

[Ash]

Instant Ramen, I was kinda hoping to hear it from your own words, but fine, I may check it someday.

TL;DR: System (or lack thereof) is based on property rights stemming from self-ownership axiom.

amidoinitright?

 

[Voukras]

Political Spectrum

Had a discussion about libertarianism and all that with PurplePoot, so thought I'd drop this by. I'm a center-right social libertarian. Right: 1.75, Libertarian: 4.79

 

[Rui]

You did?! Where? I wanna read too!

 

[trolman]

Im a Christian with communistic ideals and desire for a free equall world under 1 peacfuly united country lead by a powerful goverment.Also a metal head but thats unrelated.

 

[RiotZ]

Im a Christian with communistic ideals and desire for a free equall world under 1 peacfuly united country lead by a powerful goverment.Also a metal head but thats unrelated.

Authoritarian lol.

Equality through oppression.

 

[Voukras]

You did?! Where? I wanna read too!

Sadly, I do not keep logs of the chat, it was on private anyways. We mostly discussed the practicalities of a moving responsibility from the state to the private sector, because government departments have no reason to improve whilst corporations have predictable behavior - they always want to make a profit and competition provides a good reason to improve. This however requires the state to prevent monopolies, which isn't very libertarian, but not everything is black and white. The counter argument was that for corporations to do more good than government departments the population needs to be able to distinguish between the quality of services - as in be informed. And not a lot of people are informed. Also, I was told I may be biased against large governments because of my personal experience with them in Romania, and that is fair enough, I guess.

In the end, Plato was right. Excess of liberty, whether it lies in state or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of slavery. I just find that the definition of excess of liberty differs greatly from person to person.

 

[trolman]

Authoritarian lol.

Equality through oppression.

If i really wanted that I would have fallen of the bottom left corner.
What kind of oppression are you talking about?

 

[Instant Ramen]

This however requires the state to prevent monopolies, which isn't very libertarian, but not everything is black and white.

I have never seen an example of a lasting monopoly that formed without government assistance.

The counter argument was that for corporations to do more good than government departments the population needs to be able to distinguish between the quality of services - as in be informed. And not a lot of people are informed.

So, if individuals are not informed enough to make perfect decisions, how can a government department, comprised of the same individuals make better decisions?
The opposite is true. In order for a government department to make perfect decisions about regulations, it must have perfect knowledge of every consumers preferences, which is impossible.

What kind of oppression are you talking about?

Governments are all oppressive.

 

[Voukras]

So, if individuals are not informed enough to make perfect decisions, how can a government department, comprised of the same individuals make better decisions?
The opposite is true. In order for a government department to make perfect decisions about regulations, it must have perfect knowledge of every consumers preferences, which is impossible.

Yes, but the individual has an interest in informing himself while a government department employee hasn't any beyond moral obligation.

Governments are all oppressive.

True, since all governments are based on coercion.

 

[trolman]

Governments are all oppressive.

Chaos or Order, make your choice.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Chaos or Order, make your choice.

Don't conflate governance with societal order.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Im a Christian with communistic ideals and desire for a free equall world under 1 peacfuly united country lead by a powerful goverment.Also a metal head but thats unrelated.

Im a Christian with communistic ideals

Im a Christian

This explains a lot.

 

[MasterHaosis]

This explains a lot.

He forgot only to say ,,I am TROLMAN!"

 

[RiotZ]

If i really wanted that I would have fallen of the bottom left corner.
What kind of oppression are you talking about?

Forced Sterilization, Religious and racial discrimination.