Warcraft 3 patch 1.21b

[Blackcat]

The last patch was a No-CD patch, it was gonna be part of this new patch, but this patch took a little longer. This new patch is mostly about balance in melee.

 

[NEREVARMS]

ty, but I have to say... I don't really recognize that
I'd like some new Add-On or something.
Would be W00T!

 

[Ryku650]

Theres more to the no CD thing.

If you enable your map hack on Battle.net, your game will crash. Woot! No more Map Hackers! Even with the New Map Hacks out, it does not work. Which is great. If your in-game or in the Menu looking for games, if you hit back, POP! An error shows up. Someone told me that when you use Map Hack, you have extra Numbers in your I.P Address. So my theory to what the Patch does it that is detects those extra numbers and kicks you out. Im not really sure if the Extra Numbers thing is real or not. I used to use Map Hack against people i hate lol. Now i cannot.

But the Bright side, you cannot map hack on games like Sheep Tag, Tree, or "Murder in the Mansion". (Which using Map Hack will let you pwn in the game)

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

You wish, I was disced several time when winning after 1.21b was out. That's the worst thing, it's worse than mh.

 

[NEREVARMS]

TY

Wow, much more I was expecting. Thank you guys für answering.

 

[SantaBla]

Instead of telling us what they are planning, couldn't you maybe tell us what the patch will do, which people just so happen to care more about?

How the fuck I'm supposed to know what they are planning? Do I look like Karune to you? These are the messages he posted on the Battle.Net forum. If you're not happy about that, go whine to him, you thankless wretch.

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

How the fuck I'm supposed to know what they are planning? Do I look like Karune to you? These are the messages he posted on the Battle.Net forum. If you're not happy about that, go whine to him, you thankless wretch.

What you posted is what they make plans to do, therefore you are posting what they are planning.

Don't turn this into a flamewar.

P.S. SanD suck.

 

[brad.dude03]

Both you STFU.

I'm tired of the both of you stirring shit of late. You're both wrong. Kaitech came off hostile, SantaBla replied as such.

Keep it flame-free, keep it on topic, or GTFO.

 

[SantaBla]

What you posted is what they make plans to do, therefore you are posting what they are planning.

Don't turn this into a flamewar.

P.S. SanD suck.

Why are you telling me that Sand suck? It's none of my business seriously and it's totally irrelevant to what we're talking about here.
You asked me what they will do, I replied that I don't know what they are planning to do about the content (I thought you understood that) and not what they're planning to do about the situation of the patch which is what Karune posted on Battle.Net.

I believe I'm still being on topic. 1.21 is out but 1.22 will be out soon so I'm just posting about 1.22 here till it comes out.
And brad.dude03, you want this to be kept flame free, but you're contributing to it too with STFU and GTFO. I also don't recall any previous clash with Kaitech. So why do you get tired with both of us.

 

[brad.dude03]

I get tired of both of you seperately. Each of you have individual problems that do not help the situation, least of all when clashing. I have absolutely zero tolerance for crap, and you stepped the line.

I'm just telling it the way it is. Both of you need to shut up about your petty crap, get on topic, or you can get out of this thread.

It's as easy as that.

 

[Herman]

v1.22

Uh, so are they going to *fix* the melee games, so people have strong competition again, or is the actual patch the one that bugged it up in the first place?

Somebody's post on another thread (something about DotA players being noobs because melee is bugged) spoke of the melee games being completely f*cked up, and players could never get far above +55% wins, nor could they ever find any good competition

I seriously hope that the new patch fixes this problem, I kinda noticed the ridiculousness, and I suck at melee games

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Actually the only problem you've had with me in the past is I acted like a whiny little bitch, the other time you couldn't take personal opinion...

 

[SantaBla]

I get tired of both of you seperately. Each of you have individual problems that do not help the situation, least of all when clashing. I have absolutely zero tolerance for crap, and you stepped the line.

I'm just telling it the way it is. Both of you need to shut up about your petty crap, get on topic, or you can get out of this thread.

It's as easy as that.

My discussion with Kaitech was on topic. We were talking about patch 1.22.
Unless you think patch 1.22 should not be related in any way to 1.21.

And if you want more on topic stuffs here it is for Kaitech so he can stop whining:

Karune said himself there will be new bnet features but he didn't say what they will be. (I believe these new features will be for Starcraft 2)
It's possible that the ancient AMM will be restored.
Human tower repair rates are on top of the balance list.
The patch is taking long, I believe something big is coming with it.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Expect the patch 1.22 a week before or after april first. Blizzard is well known for long delays with its patches and to try and do something halerious on april first.

 

[brad.dude03]

I can't wait to see what Blizzard has in store to top the Wisp race, and the Evil 1.13 patch notes.

 

[1337D00D]

Theres more to the no CD thing.

If you enable your map hack on Battle.net, your game will crash. Woot! No more Map Hackers! Even with the New Map Hacks out, it does not work. Which is great. If your in-game or in the Menu looking for games, if you hit back, POP! An error shows up. Someone told me that when you use Map Hack, you have extra Numbers in your I.P Address. So my theory to what the Patch does it that is detects those extra numbers and kicks you out. Im not really sure if the Extra Numbers thing is real or not. I used to use Map Hack against people i hate lol. Now i cannot.

But the Bright side, you cannot map hack on games like Sheep Tag, Tree, or "Murder in the Mansion". (Which using Map Hack will let you pwn in the game)

Not true.

 

[Dr Super Good]

1337D00D, the person who posted that had no idea what he was talking about. Only a few changes on the map hack program were needed for it to work again which is only a few minutes work if you have the uncompiled text of the program. I do not think blizzard will be adding anti map hack soon, if ever to WC3 as there is no real need as melee games automatically have anti maphack (to a degree) in them.

 

[PurgeandFire]

Expect the patch 1.22 a week before or after april first. Blizzard is well known for long delays with its patches and to try and do something halerious on april first.

Damn Burgercraft and goddamn pandaren race.

I can't believe I didn't realize it was April 1st.

 

[SantaBla]

don't forget WHOA. I can't believe that some people fell for that.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, that was hilarious too.

But yeah, Blizzard is famous for their sense of humor, and it shines on the first of April every year.

 

[SantaBla]

The link is still up.
http://www.blizzard.com/us/whoa/

 

[Dr Super Good]

There is little dought that they will release a patch 1.22, but probably they will involve it some way into april first before they do.

 

[SantaBla]

There's no doubt that they will release it.
I pity the humans. They're getting nerfed.
Perhaps there will be an announcement of a new hero during April's Fool... Or the release of Starcraft Ghost XD.

 

[HyperActive]

Do we know for sure of some additions to the game like heroes, or are the just balances?

 

[SantaBla]

Patch 1.22

Loads of people are unhappy with the changes of patch 1.22. I'm not sure if it's April's Fools or not, here's the patch changes anyway.

April 1st, 2008 - The Dev Team is ready to launch the public test servers today.

Westfall Test Server - When players select the PTR in their server list, they will then be able to log in and update their client to patch 1.22. When players select a different server, their client will automatically patch back to 1.21b.

[waiting for server live confirmation from development]

April 1st, 2008 - Unfortunately, there has been last minute issues that will prevent the patch from going live on public test servers today. I understand the overwhelming excitement to get into the PTR server to test the new patch and have no desire to give you news of the patch's delay. Nonetheless, I would like to remind everyone that we are almost there and I will continue to give you updates on the patch's progress.

The first question I am already working on is how long the delay is. The updates on this will be posted here when I find out:
http://www.battle.net/forums/war3/thread.aspx?fn=war3-general&t=1877805&s=new&tmp=1#new

The second question you probably have is why the patch didn't go live today. Here is reason from our Producer, "At the last minute we found a problem with the patch which could break the installs of a small percentage of users." Again, they are only working to make sure the testing and final patch goes smoothly as well as betters your current gameplay experience of Warcraft III.

Please be patient as there will be more updates. Please also keep discussion about the Patch Notes.

Here are the Patch Notes for 1.22:
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Patch 1.22
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FEATURES

- There is now a replay auto-save feature in the options menu. Replays
are automatically saved to the "replay" folder.
- Added an option to always show unit and building health bars.
- You can now enable and disable the display of minimap signals
from players and other observers using chat commands:
/showminimapsignals and /hideminimapsignals.

BALANCE CHANGES

HUMAN
- Scout Tower repair rate changed from 12 to 20.
- Knight damage increased: Attack cooldown changed from 1.50 to
1.40 and base damage increased from 25 to 28 (Average damage is 34).

UNDEAD
- Increased Ziggurat base armor from 1 to 5.
- Reduced the build time of the Necropolis from 120 to 100.

NIGHT ELF
- Reduce the Orb of venom poison duration from 10 seconds to 8 seconds.
- Increase the experience gain from Dryads from Level 2 (40xp) to
Level 3 (60 xp).

FIXES

- The cooldown on unlimited usable items (example: the staff of
preservation) now persists after the item is dropped or traded.
- A cooldown exploit with potions has been fixed.
- When you unburrow a Crypt Fiend, its auto-cast will no longer be toggled
off.
- An exploit bug in which items could lose their cooldowns when transferred
between heroes has been fixed.


ADDITIONAL MAPS

Furthermore, these 4 new contest winner maps will be included in the final patch, but not on the PTR:
- (2)MeltingValley
- (2)RoadToStratholme
- (4)CentaurGrove
- (4)TidewaterGlades

 

[Pyritie]

Doesn't seem too unreasonable to me. Then again, look at the date on that thing.

 

[SantaBla]

They expected more changes. AMM and Siege tanks mainly.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Changes look fine to me as well. Especially how they are adding much needed fetures (like auto saving of replays for people who do that sort of thing instead of relying on banlist).

 

[brad.dude03]

I don't really play melee, or wc3, much anymore, so the unit balances don't really bother me. Auto-save replay is a nifty feature. It's still wierd that, like 5 years later, they're still balancing the game though...

 

[Herman]

haha

Yeah, thats a little odd....

I wish they took warcraft further, instead of WoW, but WoW is making them a f*ckload more money than they ever made with Warcraft3

I suppose the future of wc3 is WarSoc?

 

[brad.dude03]

In fact Reinventing the Craft is most likely the future of WC3.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Yeah right. A large-scale project reaching completion? No way.

 

[HappyTauren]

In fact, it is easier to work with RtC. Because in FPS mode, much of the stuff is actually hidden, so you dont have to work on icon tooltips/icons and other things cinematic mode hides.

 

[Dr Super Good]

That is if you want all your maps to be FPS.

Remember that you have to use JASS for RtC and most people can not.

 

[brad.dude03]

A lot of people who can't do JASS don't make maps worth playing.

 

[Herman]

Mmm

Yeah, I don't know any half-decent maps made in GUI, cept maybe risks, but they really aren't that impressive

 

[HappyTauren]

The current map standards are very high, and I CAN get as much quality, but what I lack is inspiration, time, and I am lazy xP

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Oh, you can make decent maps in GUI, it's just rather limited, so learning that hard looking shizzle has to be better...

 

[Herman]

@HappyTauren - Tell me about it ><

@Kaitech[SanD] - you probably could make an "ok" map in GUI, cept it would take much longer, and alot of systems wouldn't be able to be used (ones that need to use locals), and many others would become far more inefficient

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

You can use local variables in GUI... There's a Custom Script thing in GUI and I think you need Local Variables in multiboards.

 

[Herman]

No

Technically, custom script = jass, and you don't use locals for multiboards, just regular globals

 

[Rui]

You can use both locals and globals for multiboards, as long as you don't want them to be changed.

Anyway, I'll have to agree with brad.