warcraft 2-the return of the chaos

[viktor1995]

Warcraft 2- the return of the chaos

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Hey dudes !

We work on a campaign which shall be an accurate conversion of the Wc2 gameplay to Wc3.
With this conversion We try to keep every aspect of the game as close as possible to the original game, including fitting models, same icons and equal resource- and mana costs.





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Updates:

-- We have advanced building system
-- Now We have some snow skins


Project members:

-- Viktor 1995 : Project leader,
-- MGHetedik : terrainer, Skinner, second project leader
-- Osama-binliden : terrainer, trigerer
-- [K40$]-Spectre :
-- CharMixa64 : skins, terrain

Who do we need?
-- Modeler
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Some special thanks:
-- RED XIII : great Warcraft 2 models
-- Kam
-- amaroxx- help with the grammar.
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[Linaze]

The main problem I see with making wc3 in wc2 is that the wc2 modding possibilities is extremely limited. Okay, I'm just kidding with you, I know that was a typo.
I suggest you format your first post more nicely, at the moment it looks really unattractive.
Also, in one of your screenshots, I think I saw a WoW model in the background (the ogre), shame on you.

 

[Coolty44]

conversion of warcraft 2 to warcraft 3.

I Lol'd

 

[viktor1995]

Linaze: Yes i want to edit the first post is nicer but now i have'nt had time very for that, tomorow i do, and the ogre mage is from WOW but no direct copy because have got animation what i think not in Wow (very funny animation one of the two head go to sleep and the second head kick the first head) I found in here you can check it(i don't understand the russian language) :
http://xgm.ru/files.php?fc=2&perpage=50&page=14
when it is a dirrect copy and the origynal wow model i delete. My only problem is their portrait :S but now i cant found for this a better model.
and thank you the replies and the helping

Coolty44: what is your problem, when a grammar problem you can see my english is not the best. :S

 

[JimBob]

I'm assuming you mean to make WC3 like WC2 with fast paced action and sea warfare? And you want the map to use models that resemble the models from WC2? If so, you can find a few on this website and the WC3 Campaigns. I myself am currently working on a map thats just like what I assume your doing; only it's just one map( I may make a few more). I'm not sure why you want to do a whole conversion though? Most conversions are unlikely to be finished because they take a lot of time. Oh, if your looking for an Ogre Mage, RedXIV may have one. You should ask him.

By the way, any of you know how to make the AI use transports and do sea combat?

Also, aren't you making a campaign based off of WC2, Linaze?

 

[viktor1995]

Thank you JimBob your post .
I ask RedXIV. . My models from hiveworkshop, wc shampaigns xgm ru and some very little site where i found something plusz i asked for something Kam who have got a very good warcraft 2 map with his own ideas ( I think you know that map because who dont know that) Yes i know the convertions take a lot of time, i doing my map very long too . But i dont want to unfinish this because I very very like the warcraft 2 . Now i am the one man in this project :S and and Kam help me in something. But now I want to find some project member. I now learn the AI but i want one men to ask can he help me, he do Kam's map AI and that is very good. Goods for your project (or how its sayed :S )

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Thank you JimBob your post .
I ask RedXIV. . My models from hiveworkshop, wc shampaigns xgm ru and some very little site where i found something plusz i asked for something Kam who have got a very good warcraft 2 map with his own ideas ( I think you know that map because who dont know that) Yes i know the convertions take a lot of time, i doing my map very long too . But i dont want to unfinish this because I very very like the warcraft 2 . Now i am the one man in this project :S and and Kam help me in something. But now I want to find some project member. I now learn the AI but i want one men to ask can he help me, he do Kam's map AI and that is very good. Goods for your project (or how its sayed :S )

since you are russian if im right. what happened to warcraft 3 beyond the dark portal project on xgm.ru? cancelled project?

 

[viktor1995]

No I'm from Hungary :S. I found somewhere in the Hive workshop a link to xgm.ru.
But i think i know about that project. I think that removed or deleted because i dont found :S.

 

[viktor1995]

champaign

Now when i wait for the models i want to start make the champaign. But i have to find some project member:
-Modeller( i dont want to wait for ages for models)
-terrainer
-Ai maker

I do the terrain for the first map of tides of darkness orc champaign. I want this to a test map.
thank every body the help.

 

[amaroxx]

i assume you already have seen all the models from redXIV. if not, a advise you to do so he already did much of the wc2 buildings. there also is a goblin submarine somewhere on the forum.
can you make a list of what you are needing up to now? im not sure if your old list is up to date. maybe then a can find some of the wanted stuff.

 

[viktor1995]

The list:warcraft 1:
complete warcraft 1 buildings ^^
orc spearman with helm.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Orcish_Horde_of_the_First_War

http://www.wowwiki.com/Azeroth_Army_of_the_First_War
Warcraft 2:
orc:
Catapult:


http://www.wowwiki.com/File:OrCatapult.gif
now i use the original beta catapult what i found somewhere in here, but i allwas want a better catapult what see this, bloody and with the bones.
Goblin sapper:
http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Gobsappers.gif
now i use the original warcraft 3 :S
Troll destroyer:
http://www.wowwiki.com/File:TrollDestroyer.gif

Orc oil tanker:
http://www.wowwiki.com/File:OrcOil.gif
now i use for this the undead transport.

Humans:

dwarf demolition squad:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Filewarfdemo.gif
I dont found everything for this
gnomish flying machine:
http://www.wowwiki.com/File:HumanFlying.gif
I dont found everything too
human transport ship:
http://www.wowwiki.com/File:HumanTransport.gif
and too :S
Now i wait assasin lord massage what he do from the list. Because i send him a list two weeks ago and he said he can do some of them. The buildings RedXIII do now
but here is that i dont find now (but i think RedXIII do them sometime):
Orc:
Shipyard:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/4/4d/OrcShipyard.gif

Oil platform:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/a/a2/OrcRig.gif
Oil refinery:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/5/59/OrcRefinery.gif
Goblin alchemi:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/b/b1/OrcAlchemist.gif

Human:
Blacksmith:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/9/90/HumanBlacksmith.gif

Shipyard:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/4/40/HumanShipyard.gif

Fooundry:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/f/f1/HumanFoundry.gif

Refinery:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/e/e3/HumanRefinery.gif

Stable:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/5/5f/HumanStables.gif

I want to use a better stable than what i use now.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/9/9d/HumanAviary.gif
i want one wha tis better like the original warcraft 2 than the o. warcraft 3
this is all.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

i think priority for models should go to: orc pig farm, human blacksmith, ships, oil platforms, shipyard and other early building. if a demo would be released, at least it has got all the models needed. someone should also do the interface and mouse cursor like warcraft 2

 

[amaroxx]

ouh yes the cursors much better than in wc3.

viktor1995, do you have all the sounds? theres a file in the wc2 folder which can extract all unit sounds as mp3 files, just if you did not know this already.

 

[Red XIII]

There WoW Ogre-mage ( I used him as Cho Gall) all anims (also portraits) included.
For Standard Ogre-mage i uses other model. When it was reworked i update it on Hive.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

on youtube you can even find some war2 tracks remixed in a better way. i suggest to use them. i have some war2 models on my pc, must check them. sure i got troll axethrower, troll berserker, human mage, danath, elven archer and ranger. that wow ogre mage is awesome, but i suggest to use tauer's cho gall model and use that model for standard ogre/ogre magi

 

[viktor1995]

Thank you RedXIII its very good model +Rep.
Now i can delete the ogre from my list i think, but can anyone help me? The ogre mage from the link what i send have got a portrait problem, can you RedXIII or anybody do that? And i want to remove the ruins from his face and body. Red i think you can do this, you have got the chogal, you dont have to do the portrait agin because that is fantastic , only remove the runes and save in a new name.
amaroxx: I think i have got a pack, but i have got a link where i can download. Some of the buildings and the DK have got the original sound now, but I have a problem: My computer is crashed two month ago, and i have to see what i have got and what don't have :S
Killrogg: I send you a Pm.
And yes i think too RedXIII do the buildings, thank you all of the buildings! I have got early day some building, and two day ago i found them in xgm, and the author: RedXIII . The aren't the now uploaded models. thank you to do them
I found this:
http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=104461&highlight=warcraft+2
I want to try use this for the advanced building . Yes i know in the test he can't build the new buildings, but when you read the install he write this problem:not continue to execute their order previous to accessing a menu after accessing it. Maybe require the LastOrder library to fix this.

and: +rep for everybody who helped me.

 

[amaroxx]

i have all the unit sounds but i suggest that you dont need the german version ^_^ but surely someone will send it to you.

 

[MGHetedik]

I have a useful Orc spearman /WC1/ ,if you like it, I send it to you by an e-mail with pleasure.
I used this in my campaign./there is translating only, if some days look promising then going ready./
If you need help in your campaign, I'm good in terrain making.

 

[viktor1995]

MGhetedik: I send you a PM
Now we have got a terrainer .
something different: http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17 Its working! RedXIII: I think its good for you, I think you like the beta and alpha things .

 

[MGHetedik]

OK ! I'm going and I look at my PM.

 

[viktor1995]

Now we have got a great terrainer. MGHetedik send me some pictures, and all of them is great . And he is from hungary too, and i can speak with him better in Hungary than english .

 

[Zerox]

on youtube you can even find some war2 tracks remixed in a better way. i suggest to use them. i have some war2 models on my pc, must check them. sure i got troll axethrower, troll berserker, human mage, danath, elven archer and ranger. that wow ogre mage is awesome, but i suggest to use tauer's cho gall model and use that model for standard ogre/ogre magi

If you do indeed have those models especially the human mage. Can you send them to me as well?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

yes, but they may have some errors and skin need to be fixed. i have to find a free version of photoshop

 

[LordPerenolde II]

I did convert WC3 into WC1 already ^^ got my proj on lot of guy's hands. They all seem to appreciate! ^^ However i'm TRYING to do a wc2 conversion by telling a substory, but i lost my motivation due to work and short time.

 

[JimBob]

Right now I'm trying to get the resource system and attack rates like they were in Warcraft 2 for my map. You can have the build if I finish it in time.

Note: It's impossible to make the AI use transports and perform Sea Combat as well as land combat like they did in Warcraft 2. Not even with triggers. So, don't bother trying to figure it out. The maps with sea combat will have to be multi-player.

 

[Alternative Reaper]

Now when i wait for the models i want to start make the champaign. But i have to find some project member:
-Modeller( i dont want to wait for ages for models)
-terrainer
-Ai maker

I do the terrain for the first map of tides of darkness orc champaign. I want this to a test map.
thank every body the help.

Wait, what is your part in the making?

 

[viktor1995]

everything what i can do. First i'm the project leader. I can do terrain but now MG hetedik can do some better. I have been working this project for a long time alone.

 

[Swiftbeard]

I made a warcraft 2 conversation map.

 

[viktor1995]

and erm... where did you upload? I want to see.

 

[Swiftbeard]

I haven't uploaded yet. I guess I never thought about it. I suppose I could. I'll do it later today. My map layout is a lil ghetto though imo =p

EDIT: Alright I uploaded it

 

[viktor1995]

Hy everybody who intereseted about our project
now some news: We have got a modeler: Evure
about champaing: we complete 5 map from the human champaing . i'll do some screenshot soon.

 

[Felborn]

nice project you got here m8...good luck with it

 

[viktor1995]

thank you

 

[takakenji]

sounds nice, GL with your project

 

[viktor1995]

Hy everybody
Now here is an album with the new pictures:
http://img442.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=87921673.jpg

And pls we very need more project member. Pls help our.

 

[CharMixa64]

If this goes away, I will be sad. I wish to contribute to this when I finish my version of it. Mine is actually a mix of WC1 and WC2, so when it is done, I would very much like to work with you on this project. This is turning out great, and there seems to be only one problem...grammar.

warcraft 2 - the return of the chaos...or...Warcraft 2: The Return of Chaos?

"Due to your position as regional commander of the southern defense forces, Lord Terenas commands that you raise an outpost in the Hillsbrad Foothills. It is rumored that Orcish marauders have been raiding coastal towns in the area, but whether these attacks are part of a greater offensive is, as yet, unknown. Your outpost is to provide food and information for Alliance troops and, as such, should be a community consisting of at least four farms. You must also construct a Barracks in order to safeguard the Hillsbrad operation."
Classic Warcraft Two....ah, memories.

 

[viktor1995]

yes my grammar not the best. I'm learning now. I think our project not problem to your, becouse we want do the classik warcraf 1 and 2(with the expansion too). And you do a mix . And we will wait for you

Some news: we work in the oil resurces. Now you can build oil platforms in oil patch, your tankers can't gather from oil patch only from platforms. and the tankers return from platforms to shipyard

 

[MGHetedik]

Update:
we have advanced building system !

 

[Linaze]

Interesting project, always been a big fan of wc2 so I hope this turns out good.
*How will you solve naval AI?
*How will the oil resource be displayed, via a multiboard?
*Will there be heroes like in wc3?

 

[viktor1995]

Hy

Thank your questions

Oil: i want to do look like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0zG3B6X4g8

curently we work in this

Herose: There be heroes, but not like in wc3. They will be deifferent.

Naval Ai: now i don't know, but we will do something. some week ago we didn't know how we do the advanced building and we do one trigger for this

 

[Zoltarian]

Very intesting project ive been doing one of my own if Ive got together the first orc mistion and working on the second so if you need any members id gladly help

 

[MGHetedik]

Hello !

Minimap previews !

 

[Linaze]

Ehm, well, tile variation?
And don't say "there was none in wc2", cause, as far as I can see, you're making the campaign in wc3, where better terrains than the lousy ones of wc2 are expected.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

Cool a campaign of wcr2 , if you need any help with the units, buildings, ai, abilities or models/skins you can ask me, cause I've have also made a wacraft 2 remake for warcraft 3 but than skirmish and without naval.

 

[supertoinkz]

need to reveal this

I just created an oil system for my wc2 map
but there are still things I need to do

1.Cancellation, when a unit that costs oil, lets say Ogre Juggernaught, is cancelled, the resources spent will be fully returned right? Im still making it for the oil

2.The multiboard shows everyone's oil >.>

 

[Danathos]

I am brand new to this website, but I ahve DLed some of the material here and great stuff guys! I am a HUGE fan of the original WC and WCII. Can anyone tell me where to DL these maps and some of the other models? I cna't find the elven destroyer, troll destroyer ect...

 

[Zoltarian]

mind sharing ?

 

[supertoinkz]

the?

 

[MGHetedik]

I am brand new to this website, but I ahve DLed some of the material here and great stuff guys! I am a HUGE fan of the original WC and WCII. Can anyone tell me where to DL these maps and some of the other models? I cna't find the elven destroyer, troll destroyer ect...

"these maps" ?
Is this campaign ? Warcraft 2- the return of the chaos ?
Is not ready yet, and then it is not possible to download it.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

MGHetedik, about your model request, I'm sorry but I don't know anything about modeling nor about skinning.